Euthanasia

[CannedFries]

Do you believe in Euthanasia?

I personally believe the pity killing of people with an incurable disease. If I was paralysed I would actually rather die than live out the rest of my life in a wheelchair. But hey, I'm weird...

[SolarisDX]

It's a personal decision. One that should be discussed with your family.

It's not right for the government to be able to say whether or not you have a choice to end your own life... especially if you are in unbearable pain, braindead, or feel that you are a burden to others.

[CannedFries]

Is there any documented cases of people charged with euthanasia? I would very much like to read them.

[SolarisDX]

At 2/28/03 03:29 PM, CannedFries wrote: Is there any documented cases of people charged with euthanasia? I would very much like to read them.

Oh, there has got to be. I'll look for some. (It may take me more than a week though because I am going out of town early tommorow).

[JMHX]

I think Euthanasia is a personal decision as well. It shouldn't be made illegal over that "Only God has the right to end life." Well, hey, I'm an atheist. I feel the right to end my own life if I see the need.

[Labanzab]

At 2/28/03 03:29 PM, CannedFries wrote: Is there any documented cases of people charged with euthanasia? I would very much like to read them.

I found a site that discusses all of the legal information...

Euthanasia.com

As for my view... if a consenting adult wants to end their life due to terminal illness, they should have every right to do so. Legalizing euthanasia is important because it provides an opportunity for individuals to receive counciling and assistance from qualified people. As with all legal issues, religion should not be a factor. We need to keep the churches out of the government and vice-versa.

[CannedFries]

Don't take life too seriously, you'll never get out alive....

Thanks for the website. Honestly I think I am retarded. That or just lazy. I wonder If I killed all the annoying people it would be considered Euthanasia...

[Ted-Easton]

No, it would be considered a gift to society, and we would all turn a blind eye.

But yes, there have been cases of Euthanasia.
The famous Dr.Kevorkian, for one.

[Labanzab]

At 3/1/03 04:00 PM, CannedFries wrote: Don't take life too seriously, you'll never get out alive....

Thanks for the website. Honestly I think I am retarded. That or just lazy. I wonder If I killed all the annoying people it would be considered Euthanasia...

Killing all of the annoying people would be more an example of eugenics.

[JMHX]

At 3/1/03 07:32 PM, Ted_Easton wrote: No, it would be considered a gift to society, and we would all turn a blind eye.

But yes, there have been cases of Euthanasia.
The famous Dr.Kevorkian, for one.

What ever happened to Dr. Death?

[cratbro]

Trully, the right to end your life when the alternative is 6 months to live is an undeniable right.

[EvilGovernmentAgents]

And religious fanatics do not have a say in that case, despite whatever they think

[Spike-J-Wolfwood]

In any society run by logic this would not be an issue. If I’m in horrible pain or I have been reduced to a piss and shit factory and at the point where there is nothing that can be done to better my quality of life then logically the humane thing is to kill me if I wish it to be done.

But instead we think that true love of human life is to make a person suffer for however long it takes for them to die. It’s not even like it’ll be a quick death, we’ll actually use machines and medicine to keep them alive and suffering longer than what would be natural.

[PreacherJ]

I'm confused... I'm in a BBS where I actually agree with the last person who posted...

Some semblance of intelligence can be found tonight-

Shocking, isn't it?

As for Euthanasia-
I agree with you totally, Spike.

[Labanzab]

At 3/2/03 03:09 AM, PreacherJ wrote: I'm confused... I'm in a BBS where I actually agree with the last person who posted...

Some semblance of intelligence can be found tonight-

Shocking, isn't it?

Yes, it is rather creepy... sorta' takes the fun out of it, doesn't it?
Let's see... I'll try to fix it...

STFU!!!! PEEPOL HAV NO RITE 2 DIE IF THEY WANT AND LOJIK SUCKS MY BALLZ AND YU READE BOOKS SO YOUU ARR AN ASS!!!!

(Man... it actually hurts to make a post like that!)

[Spike-J-Wolfwood]

LOL...... good job Labanzab. Crefull, posting like that too often kills massive amounts of brain cells.

[PreacherJ]

At 3/2/03 03:20 AM, Labanzab wrote:

Yes, it is rather creepy... sorta' takes the fun out of it, doesn't it?
Let's see... I'll try to fix it...

STFU!!!! PEEPOL HAV NO RITE 2 DIE IF THEY WANT AND LOJIK SUCKS MY BALLZ AND YU READE BOOKS SO YOUU ARR

AN ASS!!!!

(Man... it actually hurts to make a post like that!)

That, my friend, was fucking hilarious.

*ahem* HA HA HAHA HA HAHAHAHAHA!

Ha.

[KaneOfNod]

Ah, but isn't it also possible that a doctor could recommend euthanasia when other alternatives exist? There is a whole can of worms opened with the possibility of euthanasia.

[Spike-J-Wolfwood]

At 3/2/03 04:18 PM, KaneOfNod wrote: Ah, but isn't it also possible that a doctor could recommend euthanasia when other alternatives exist? There is a whole can of worms opened with the possibility of euthanasia.

It doesn’t matter what the doctor recommends. Euthanasia is the choice of the patient.

[CannedFries]

At 3/2/03 01:04 AM, cratbro wrote: Trully, the right to end your life when the alternative is 6 months to live is an undeniable right.

I most definitely agree with that!
I don't believe that the church has any business in the government and how it should be run. For example, a friend, whom will remain nameless, has less then two years to live and the only reason he is alive now is because the crap he is on.

After he told his "Christian" parents about a decision he decided to make about ending his life his parents have made him a human vegetable. Since he is a minor he has no choice is the matter. You can't even has a reasonably decent conversation with him. His parents made him a retard just to keep him around two more years?

[TheEvilOne]

At 3/2/03 12:51 AM, JudgeMeHarshX wrote:

At 3/1/03 07:32 PM, Ted_Easton wrote: No, it would be considered a gift to society, and we would all turn a blind eye.

But yes, there have been cases of Euthanasia.
The famous Dr.Kevorkian, for one.

What ever happened to Dr. Death?

I think they got him on a second-degree murder charge.

[Stormwarden]

Such a decision is ultimately up to the individual, and no person should be left in agony that doesn't want to be.

[Arameir]

At 2/28/03 03:29 PM, CannedFries wrote: Is there any documented cases of people charged with euthanasia? I would very much like to read them.

There's a very major Canadian case dealing with Robert Latimer, and the killing of his daughter, who was mentaliy ill...I'm sure you could find something on this. Sadly, I dont have any links offhand, but if I happen to find something I'll post it here.

[Grinwald]

People have the right to die. Doctors have the right to refuse to assist them in their deaths. But yes, a patient should have the right to terminate his or her own life if they have no other appealing options. As much as I disapprove of suicide, this is an exception to the rule.

[CannedFries]

At 3/3/03 01:32 AM, Grinwald wrote: People have the right to die. Doctors have the right to refuse to assist them in their deaths. But yes, a patient should have the right to terminate his or her own life if they have no other appealing options. As much as I disapprove of suicide, this is an exception to the rule.

But then that wouldn't be considered euthanasia anyway. I don't condone suicide either, even though I bought the tshirt from tshirthell.com. But your right in that Doctor's can refuse to assist. But if they wanted to, with the acceptance of the patient. I don't think that they should be charged.

[jide]

how is this different from suicide though? Just because your under fisical pain, not emotional, doesnt make it more justified!

[Ted-Easton]

Doesn't it?
Physical pain cannot be endured indefinitely, emotional can. You can tie up your emotions inside of you and just not let them out.
Physical pain is concrete, tangible, while emotional pain is opinionated and mysterious.

I think suicide should always be an option, but physical more so than emotional.

[JMHX]

At 3/4/03 03:29 PM, Ted_Easton wrote: Doesn't it?
Physical pain cannot be endured indefinitely, emotional can. You can tie up your emotions inside of you and just not let them out.
Physical pain is concrete, tangible, while emotional pain is opinionated and mysterious.

I think suicide should always be an option, but physical more so than emotional.

Agreed. Your life, your right. End it if you see fit, just like abortion.

[Labanzab]

At 3/4/03 11:30 AM, jide wrote: how is this different from suicide though? Just because your under fisical pain, not emotional, doesnt make it more justified!

Very few individuals suffer from termianl emotional pain. For the most part, it can be overcome with the right treatment.
When an individual has a termianl physical ailment, however, doctors can do very little to stop the cause of the pain, only treat it with painkillers. I have seen cancer patients under the influence of powerful medications, and they basically become lifeless zombies. Living out the remainder of one's days in this state is terrible.

[tongueofcolicab]

If you want to die thats your desision. atleats... if ur really sick and have alot of pain.