Left vs. Right

[WadeFulp]

So if the world was made into 2 huge countries, one full of left wing people and one filled with right wing people, would the country made up of left wing people be the right wing country's bitches? What might each country be like? :) Would the left wing country ever be able to stand up for themselves and fight back against the right wing county who might opress them?

[JMHX]

Wouldn't it all depend on who you chose as leader? I'm putting my vote in for Bill Clinton, as by the time there's a wholly democratic and republican set of nations, we'll have a way to bring him back and make him live forever.
But honestly, I don't know. Not a clue. There would be a few rogue people in each nation, so neither would really get the full left or right experience. As for the oppression, I don't think it's really possible for that. If we're talking about strictly AMERICAN left and right, then we'd all be trying to run things with just a hint of diplomacy. Except maybe the right, who would make a strong attempt to declare war on the left without passing a war resolution through Congress.

Oh, those crazy righties.

[bumcheekcity]

nah, i bet the right-wing country would destroy itself. the further right-wing you are, the less friends you have.

i reckon the left-wing country would trade peacefully and when the right-wing country tried to invade, they would respond with something that caused no deaths but massive problems for their security. (i.e. destroying all their beer supply or something like that.)

the right-wing country would fight amongst itselves because they would all be racist fashists and then they would split into smaller and smaller countries and eventually nuke each other to death.

anyone agree?

[lapslf]

I don't think so. If they are all right wing, some leader will stand up and they will all adore him, cause he will find some people that are to blame for everything, probably the left wingers. So this leader, let's call him Jake for all i care, tells everyone their misery is caused by the left wingers. So everybody says hurray for jake, and the few people that are smart enough to see jake is a fucking idiot shut their mouths because they will get their asses kicked if they don't.

But on the left wing side it won't go very well too. People all want to be equal, and so they come up with rules to make everyone equal. How do we maintain those rules? if someone can punish one other the other person has more power, and that's inequal. So some other clever person, let's call him Pete, says he'll look after the rules and give others jobs to help him. When everything is right, Pete says he'll give up all his power. But everything will never be right, Pete will make sure that never happens, so he keeps his power. And all the people, just like in the rightwing country will just shut up and do what is told.

There will be war between the two countries, and that war will go on untill Pete and Jake are dead. After that, people will speak smart and make peace or something. i haven't figured that one out yet.

[RoboTripper]

I'll tell you this much: you know all the fine bitches would be over on the left-wing side cuz we know how to party. Right-wing side would be all worried about enforcing the borders and setting up the fun police and shit... Left-wing side = complete hedonism.

[Slizor]

Both countries would be in complete disarray until a dictator arrived. Because frankly both wings have in-fighting. No-one could ever agree on anything.

[bumcheekcity]

At 2/28/03 11:13 AM, Veggiemeal wrote: I don't think so. If they are all right wing, some leader will stand up and they will all adore him, cause he will find some people that are to blame for everything, probably the left wingers. So this leader, let's call him Jake for all i care, tells everyone their misery is caused by the left wingers. So everybody says hurray for jake, and the few people that are smart enough to see jake is a fucking idiot shut their mouths because they will get their asses kicked if they don't.

Nope, i disagree. The leader will either be black or white, and will either be racist towards blacks or whites (whichever one he is not.) This will start a black/white war.

But on the left wing side it won't go very well too. People all want to be equal, and so they come up with rules to make everyone equal. How do we maintain those rules? if someone can punish one other the other person has more power, and that's inequal. So some other clever person, let's call him Pete, says he'll look after the rules and give others jobs to help him. When everything is right, Pete says he'll give up all his power. But everything will never be right, Pete will make sure that never happens, so he keeps his power. And all the people, just like in the rightwing country will just shut up and do what is told.

Uhuh, I disagree. They would form political parties and things would even themselves out. I reckon they'd hold elections and stuff like that. Nobody would be a dictator 'cause then they's be on the right-wingers side of the world eh?

There will be war between the two countries, and that war will go on untill Pete and Jake are dead. After that, people will speak smart and make peace or something. I haven't figured that one out yet.

Nope, because the left-wingers are too busy setting up government and the right-wingers are too busy killing anyone who isn't their colour.

[The-Last-Kumiho]

I think the right wing country would turn into one of those super continent olligarchy countries reminiscent of Orwell's 1984 where everyone thinks/acts/dresses the same...oh and there's no sex either because right wings don't have vaginas.
Granted, the left wing country wouldn't be doing so hot either as they tend to make a lot of enemies very easily and would envoke the power of the 'tolerance police'.
Both countries would be continually at war which will keep their capitalisitic economies in balace with heavy scarcity.

I think I need a nap :/

[WadeFulp]

Hehe, this sparked some interesting ideas. However I don't like the idea of people thinking right wingers are racist who don't like sex. Maybe I should rephrase this.

Take all the people on the world and split them down the middle depending on which side of the left or right they fall. So one country would be moderate right wing to extreme right wing and one country would be moderate left wing to extreme left wing. This way you would have people in both countries that aren't far off in their thinking, but you'd only have far left in one country and far right in the other.

In the right country I wonder if you'd have defined classes. Like super rich, rich, well off, middle class, low income, poor, etc. However the poor people wouldn't complain and they would make the best of it.

In the left country everyone would help each other out and they would be equal, so you wouldn't have anyone being far ahead of anyone else. So if you wanted to work hard and bust your ass it wouldn't get you anywhere so you might as well be lazy and sit on your butt. This is why I think this system would fail, because if everyone stopped working everyone would be poor. it would get to the point where a few people would bust their ass to support everyone else and they would eventually give up. Unless they had laws that made people work a certain amount of time each day and no one want allowed to slack off or they were beaten or something until they worked. :)

So which system sounds better?

[WadeFulp]

Hehe, anyone notice how my last idea for the left sounded just like communism? Hmm.. I wonder why. :) We all know how well ocmmunism works.

[Slizor]

In the right country I wonder if you'd have defined classes. Like super rich, rich, well off, middle class, low income, poor, etc. However the poor people wouldn't complain and they would make the best of it.

The poor people would see that they could do better under the leftist system, so they'd all leave. Then, without the working classes, the rightist system crumbles.

[SolarisDX]

At 2/28/03 02:39 PM, Slizor wrote:

In the right country I wonder if you'd have defined classes. Like super rich, rich, well off, middle class, low income, poor, etc. However the poor people wouldn't complain and they would make the best of it.

The poor people would see that they could do better under the leftist system, so they'd all leave. Then, without the working classes, the rightist system crumbles.

I agree! Very smart Slizor:)

The extreme rights would kill themselves. How? Because if they didn't, someone else would. :)

[JMHX]

The poor people would see that they could do better under the leftist system, so they'd all leave. Then, without the working classes, the rightist system crumbles.

Mwahaha...now let's convince George Bush that this is the way to go!

[Labanzab]

I must also agree Slizor made a great point.

I don't believe either society would last. Leftism and rightism are idealistic concepts... such concepts cannot exist in the real world. As Wade pointed out, look what happened to communism, which is based on the leftest ideal. On the other hand, the right-wing fascist societies didn't fare much better.
There would be unhappiness in both societies. The fringe element would demand reform. As each society adapted to the reformists, they would instantly cease to be the idealistic societies they were meant to be.

[Ted-Easton]

It may seem odd, but I think Slizor brought up the point that pretty much settles this.
Excellent idea.

[JMHX]

At 2/28/03 09:40 PM, Ted_Easton wrote: It may seem odd, but I think Slizor brought up the point that pretty much settles this.
Excellent idea.

This makes up for some of his less...valid points in the past. Oh well, I've always agreed with him.

[Lord-Magnus]

At 2/28/03 09:28 AM, WadeFulp wrote: ...one full of left wing people...

We already have a place like that. It's called Europe.

[swayside]

remmember what reagan did to the ussr? dejavu anyone?

[TheEvilOne]

At 2/28/03 12:22 PM, Slizor wrote: Both countries would be in complete disarray until a dictator arrived. Because frankly both wings have in-fighting. No-one could ever agree on anything.

Wow, I actually agree with Slizor on something! It's a miracle!

In the left-wing country, you'd probably have in-fighting between moderate left-wingers (Democrats), more extreme ones (Socialists), and finally, the most extreme of all (Communists). There'd probably be something similar going on in the right-wing country, too. I don't think a dictator would step in, but I think it would be more of a situation where they all split into a bunch of smaller countries.

[lapslf]

At 2/28/03 10:03 PM, Lord_Magnus wrote:

At 2/28/03 09:28 AM, WadeFulp wrote: ...one full of left wing people...

We already have a place like that. It's called Europe.

Pffft... I wish. I'm getting fucking sick of all the smallminded rightwing idiots in my country.

[implodinggoat]

The Left wing country would descend into communism after a while. While the right wing country would descend into fascism.

Sadly there isn't a common stance in the United States that opposes government expansion. The left supports larger government for the creation of more socialist programs, while the right supports larger government for the purpose of more security.

Thus the two points of view must be pitted against eachother to keep the tedious balance of democracy.

[implodinggoat]

At 2/28/03 02:39 PM, Slizor wrote:
The poor people would see that they could do better under the leftist system, so they'd all leave. Then, without the working classes, the rightist system crumbles.

Yes and without management their work would be extremely inefficient. Thus some form of management would have to be set up where the educated organize the common worker. This would either be done through the system we have now (capitalism) or by means of the leftist government just like the wonderful government supervised heavy industry of the USSR....sounds great doesn't it Slizor?

[Slizor]

Yes and without management their work would be extremely inefficient.

What's this about management? Are you saying that the more skilled would run off to the rightist side?

[TheNewAuk-defiant]

Must everyone be a "leftist" or a "rightist"? I think about the issue at hand, and form an opion based on my information. If I get new information, I might change my opinion. Where am I on the vaunted political spectrum? I don't know. I don't know...

[HardcoreChristmas]

They'd both become paranoid that the other has nuclear weapons, and will nuke eachother coincedently at the exact same time and we would all die, then mutated snails will rule the earth.

[JMHX]

At 3/1/03 10:45 PM, Lpmofo wrote: They'd both become paranoid that the other has nuclear weapons, and will nuke eachother coincedently at the exact same time and we would all die, then mutated snails will rule the earth.

*stares at the post picture* Mmm...explodey.

[IraqNOphobiA]

The left-winged world would become a strong indipendent utopia.. why? the left winged people would help each other divide thier wealth. Thus making them stronger as a whole. When threatend they would again stand together and easily repel any threat.

The right-winged country would eventually starve to death after depleting all thier natural resources. This after many were killed in the meaningless civilwars that thier greedy self-preclaimed leaders waged to accumelate even more wealth for themselfs.
They would never become a threat to the left-winged utopia because theyed be far to busy oppressing/discriminating/raping/murdering amongs themselfs. THEIR GREED WOULD CONSUME THEMSELFS..

I'm not saying that left is perfect but its as close to that as we'll get! :D

Remember vote on the side youre heart beats----> LEFT

[DarknessIncarnate]

At 2/28/03 11:44 AM, DenkSmoker wrote: I'll tell you this much: you know all the fine bitches would be over on the left-wing side cuz we know how to party. Right-wing side would be all worried about enforcing the borders and setting up the fun police and shit... Left-wing side = complete hedonism.

The reason we'd have good bitches is since we'll have already invented bikinis and the right-wingers would become so militarized that they'll resort to incest and mass training, so they would have a whole race of rednecks.

And yes, it is impossible for a left winger to be a redneck. redneck=republican=conservative=right wing, therefore lefters can't be rednecks

[EXECRADOR]

left and right,
they are the same with different faces.
!!

[karasz]

LEFT: everyone would put what was best for the community in front of the people...

RIGHT: everyone would put themselves in front of the community...

that is pretty much how the world would be... 1 'utopian' society... 1 'capitalist' society...