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Posted at: 8/4/06 04:23 AM

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I'm actually quite appalled at myself. While watching this flash, I knew in my mind that I should be sad, and feel for the girl who is dead, and for the animator who lost a friend, but deep down I feel nothing, no sadness whatsoever.

I think I may be dead inside.

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The soldiers sentiment is as nice as the animation.


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that actually made me cry

may she rest in peace forever more


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At 8/4/06 04:23 AM, -Kuro- wrote: I think I may be dead inside.

I felt somthing, but not much, people die every day, every second. If i new abit more about her i would be sad, but i know nothing. It is nice to see someone put some emotion into a flash though :)

I'm depresed now :'(
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R.I.P
Elisabeth (Elle) C. Stanford
March 15, 1990 to April 19, 2006

i remember this flash very well it's a crushing blow to your heart to know that someone who means so dear to you is gone and i truly believe the author doodlebuggy loved elle with all her heart.
this was an amazing flash your friend elle loves it i truly believe that.


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Ah yes, I too remember seeing that flash when it entered the portal, I was quite pleasantly surprised by the naked honesty and emotion shown in it. I gave it a 5. The person who messaged you used some pretty moving and powerful words, and it's great to see that a flash featured on Newgrounds could touch the heart of somebody so much and give them hope. I need a tissue now ='(

Though of course I never knew you Elle, rest in peace. I'm sure you were a wonderful person.


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At 8/4/06 04:23 AM, -Kuro- wrote: I think I may be dead inside.

I was only lightly touched for a short while so I don't think you're dead inside.

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Posted at: 8/4/06 06:12 AM

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THAT ROCKED!

OMG I loved the part where the rocket launcher blows up the huge crowd of aliens!


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At 8/3/06 03:48 PM, VeryProudofYa wrote: wow, that's really touching.

sniffle sniffle ..... beutiful ...... thats all i can say ;{


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At 8/3/06 04:18 PM, Lost_Chances wrote: Sorry but I can't morn her, I can't feel sorry for her.

I was the animating and was slightly touched. It was great, purely. I was then curouis how she died. Only to find out she committed suicide. No offense, but I lost all feeling of feeling sorry for her by the single act she did.

I mean, for fucking once. Think of the fucking family. Think of the friends. Think of the police who have to clear the brains, guts and body parts. Think of everyone who got late because the trains had to stop to clean the guts from everywhere.

I am sorry if this caused offense but that is how I truely feel. I truely feel that people normally forget about the people to pick up the peices the person who committed suicide dropped.

Once again to those who are offended, I am sorry.

While I can undertsand why someone would jump to such a standpoint... I think you really need to dig into this a little deeper.

The funny thing with life is that it is measured by emotions, thoughts and actions which depict
the state of one's life, their conscious self and the way they portray themselves to the world. All this is influenced by outside surroundings. Anything released from a person has drawn influence from the world they live in, their surroundings... but, also those around them.

The smallest thing can set a person off, where as it seems some people can take whatever life throws at them.

All this influenced by a persons inner self, partially crafted from the world around them.

Some people just cannot align their inner self with their conscious self, or their inner self to sync with their outside world. The smallest offset can throw a person so far off that it's almost mind boggling.

Sometimes a person can just become so trapped in the cycle of life they've developped, or that has developped around them that they just cannot imagine any means of change to "cure" what they feel.

While suicide is seen as a touchy subject... it's often only viewed from 2 standpoints.
1. sympathy
2. selfishness

Though many view suicide as selfish... sometimes it's just the fact of facing the music and realizing that "wow, maybe that person wasn't as happy as I thought them to be" or "wow, maybe that person WAS as depressed as I didn't want to believe".

Though there's always a way out... some people just can't see past that barrier and life can become so overwhelming that they only see one way out.

Hell, we've all heard the phrase "You can't live your life for anyone other than yourself." and sadly, that doesn't only apply to the positive aspects of being true to yourself.

But, as with anything else, it's all circumstantial.

In this case, it seems as though she ended her life due to a questioning of a mother's love. Love can tear a person apart, and many see love as a meaning for existance. When that love doesn't seem to be acheivable it can tear a person right in two.

I just don't think that anyone should hold it against someone for ending their own life. I'll never undertsand the "justification" people discuss, or the defacing of the persons integrity for committing such an act. It's a HORRIBLE reality and is no easier for the person comitting as it is for that persons loved ones.

Anyway, sorry for the long post.


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Suicide isan unfortunate thing tomany ppl don't talk about their problems to get the help they need, I agree with Lost Chances, in esence Suicide is a selfish act , it and inconsiderate , and in short a permanent Solution to a temporary problem.

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R.I.P Elle :'(

Boo...


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At 8/4/06 07:10 AM, blamurai wrote: Suicide isan unfortunate thing tomany ppl don't talk about their problems to get the help they need, I agree with Lost Chances, in esence Suicide is a selfish act , it and inconsiderate , and in short a permanent Solution to a temporary problem.

As someone who's been very close to suicide myself at one point (I had it all planned out and was ready to do it; I ultimately found I couldn't go through with it, although I still don't know why), I've got to say that you should really stop talking about things you don't understand - you're just making a fool out of yourself.

Try walking in our shoes for a while, then come back.

Do you really think people who commit suicide don't think about what it will do to their families, their friends and so on? If so, let me tell you one thing: you're dead wrong. But the fact that people still commit suicide should maybe give you a glimpse into how one must feel when suicide *is* the only option left.

You can't even begin to fathom it, so just stop talking and pretending that you have *any* idea.

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RIP Elle

I hate to ruin this, but this post also covers my votes for July.

1. Mario Bloopers 3 (vA)
2. Sonic RPG eps 6
3. Cooking with Clockcrew
4. Illusions Episode 7
5. SMW: Parodies
6. LL - Rewrite
7. LL - Portal Fun
8. TooF 5
9. Kenny and Scott: The FB
10. Ask Al 5: Chicken or Egg


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May She Rest In Peace


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I hope you find what you are looking for Elle

And thankyou for emailing this Tom, every once and awhile one needs to find something such as this to open there eyes.


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Not to be a killjoy or offend anyone, but why should I care?

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This made me feel sad for when my Dad died and watching this movie made me think of him


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I still don't understand. From what I recall, this Elle person didn't "pass away". She took her own life. I know, I know, keeping her in our memories will help her to live on in our hearts and all that. Everyone wishes everyone else could live forever, but that's why we have Zombies.

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At 8/4/06 10:13 AM, The_Swain wrote: Everyone wishes everyone else could live forever, but that's why we have Zombies.

And ghosts, who are always whining about the fact that they can't rest in peace.


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At first i felt bad for her, but now after a little while i don't feel bad for her at all. She did it to herself. I feel bad for her family and friends who lost someone close to themselves,but not for the person who did it. Also if you see the reason then you would understand that it was a stupid reason to do it that would easily be solved by talking with her mother.


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I just got chills, and maybe a little tear....=(

Rest in Peace


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At 8/4/06 04:23 AM, -Kuro- wrote: I'm actually quite appalled at myself. While watching this flash, I knew in my mind that I should be sad, and feel for the girl who is dead, and for the animator who lost a friend, but deep down I feel nothing, no sadness whatsoever.

I think I may be dead inside.

I felt nothing either, as an above poster already mentioned, death is a sad thing but thousands die everyday, even those who live a truly crappy life and fight for survival only to be stopped by some missile launched because some assholes have slight differences.

it isn't a matter of religious beleif but when somebody kills themselves with no reason to other than for casuing grief and sorrow than frankly its rather despicable. The only time anyone should every kill themselves is if and only if their life is truly the worst in the planet. So long as others fight through the obstacle course of life than why should you have any right to give up? I find it selfish...

And I thought this was supposed to be a site where you rate flashes? 4.00/5 because of barely any animation and another corny song put in there to make people feel bad? Don't make me laugh. Why even mention the message, when the message is about somebody who killed themselves? Hell I've seen better 9/11 tributes with crappier scores than this.


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At 8/4/06 01:51 AM, LordTrunks wrote:
I've looked on almost all of the pages and you haven't told off a single other person for saying the same thing that I've said over and over again.

I'm not telling you off. So clam down. I responded to your first post, and you responded to me after that, I have chosen to debate with you because it's impossible to respond to everyone. It's not some sort of personal attack, I am just hoping that you realize that the world cannot always be judge in such stark terms of right and wrong.


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I felt nothing... but thousands die every day. Yes, it's a shame this one girl died.. but to me she's just another person dying. If I've known her yes I may have beene upset.. But I don't... I felt nothing either.. I guess that makes me dead inside.

I don't really get emotional too much with this subject..with others I don't even know.

but nice animation it was done for the best.

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Finally people can understand animation does take heart. Ive been trying to say that forever. Thats a very insightful letter, and it great to see how supportive newgrounds has been.

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That was so sad. I really hope she found what she was looking for. And for those of you who are being insensetive basterds, one day when you die, think of the millions that wont even know you died, the ones that dont even know you are alive... At least millions know there was a girl named Elle that died and who care.

May she rest in peace and find what she wants... <3


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Wow... I just finished watching this. It was beautiful...

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Rest in piece

Stupid 40k limit.

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