sick of racism

[evil-n-stuff]

I have to say that I am really tired of racism! Especially livin' here in bum fu**k Idaho. Some people just really need to get a grip on life and reality. To be honest is it really all that special bein white? When it gets down to the nitty gritty think about this:

Look at all the serial killers to date....how many of them are white, and how many are of a different race? Hmmm, time to think, eh?

Life is too short to be worrying about the color of skin these days - all races have their good and their bad, just as with everything else in life. There is a black, a white and a grey to everything. Let's all just get along!

[AukeSam]

At 2/26/03 12:27 PM, evil_n_stuff wrote: I have to say that I am really tired of racism! Especially livin' here in bum fu**k Idaho. Some people just really need to get a grip on life and reality. To be honest is it really all that special bein white? When it gets down to the nitty gritty think about this:

Look at all the serial killers to date....how many of them are white, and how many are of a different race? Hmmm, time to think, eh?

Life is too short to be worrying about the color of skin these days - all races have their good and their bad, just as with everything else in life. There is a black, a white and a grey to everything. Let's all just get along!

Indeed!
There are less white people than other races, why would white people have to try to dominate them? Racism came to be whith the slavery, but that's over 150 years ago, so isn't it time to give black people a second FAIR chance? I think it DEFINITELY is!

[Mr-Y]

This is a good topic - I'm sick of racism too, and I'm sure that a lot of others are too. Why don't you go to White America, a similar topic also in the politics section of NG BBS?

[captain-dickhead]

you are right notting is wrong if youre "white" or "black"

i thinkyou have gotte be ashamed if you are a racist

[JMHX]

At 2/26/03 02:14 PM, captain_dickhead wrote: you are right notting is wrong if youre "white" or "black"

i thinkyou have gotte be ashamed if you are a racist

The thing is, most Racists think people should be ashamed for looking differently.

[maggiethatcher]

Being a white male i feel very guilty, angry and depressed for what has happened in the past to black people. One example from slavery times(which in part still goes on today in some places with cheap labour)is where a captain of a slave ship sunk the ship with 2000 African slaves on board just to get insurance. Stuff like this really makes me question if the human race should even bother existing. We fuck up the environment, kill off species and we cant even get along with our own species. As for the KKK they have commited some of the worst acts of human torture, murder e.t.c in the past hundred years sometimes dragging black people along the ground at high speeds while they drive their truck ripping off the black persons skin in the process.
How can anyone believe that anyone else is inferior. Im being honest here when i say that maybe if i had some large bomb at the age of 70(when im at the end of my life anyway probably) id go to where those fuckers gather and kill them all.

[Labanzab]

Racism is just another excuse to hate. If we were all the same color, we would just find another reason. The root of the problem is mankind's capacity to hate being greater than its capacity to love. Until we learn to love one another, there will be racism, sexism, religous intollerance, etc.

[NEMESiSZ]

If Captain America taught us anything it's how black people shouldn't be hated for their skin color, but for how they didn't fight well in WW2.

[JMHX]

At 2/26/03 09:28 PM, NEMESiSZ wrote: If Captain America taught us anything it's how black people shouldn't be hated for their skin color, but for how they didn't fight well in WW2.

Hm...interesting. Well, if it's any consolation, they're the majority on American Idol.

[EvilGovernmentAgents]

True enough. Just ignore all the White Supremists, and they'll die soon enough in their ignorance

[Mr-Y]

At 2/26/03 05:44 PM, maggiethatcher wrote:

:(see post, above)

Right... us humans have fucked up a lot of stuff on Earth. We're almost sure to be the end of ourselves and all other living organisms on Earth. We have made many mistakes in the past, and continue to still make mistakes. Racism and genocide are among our stupid mistakes.

[RichardSimmonsAgogo]

you people are just idiots, blacks have it easy, all they have to do is deal with the lil fuckin snickers "haha |\|1993|2" (thats right some little fuck complained about it so now we all lose our first ammendment rights cuase your a pussy YAY N 1 G G 3 R or "your black" or "people of your color rob" you have it easy, try being white or asian. According to the american school system asia didnt exist till ww2, then disapeared again. ITS TERRIBLE, we have no respect for ourselves, reliegons, or our cultures. We dont matter, africans americans have black history month, hell YOU HAVE A HISTORY, PEOPLE KNOW AFRICA EXISTS, no one goes "hey your black are you from canada," or "hey you look black, you must be from harlem," try being mistaken for someone else EVERY DAY. And white guys have it bad just because of idiots like you making it sound like white black racism is still a big problem ITS NOT QUIT YOUR BITCHING!!!! christ get up and do somethign with your life instead of standing on a podieum complainging that the fact that you have an iq of thirty eight doesnt matter, its the fact that your black that you cant get a job as a doctor. SHIT! the jews had its 1000 times worse for 1000 times as long. so look the point is racism will end when you all shut the fuck up, and admit that there are continents of asia and australia, the world is not limited to america and europe

[agent66]

Racism came to be whith the slavery, but that's over 150 years ago, so isn't it time to give black people a second FAIR chance? I think it DEFINITELY is!
1. "The slavery" as you put it did not begin or end in the U.S. or 150 years ago.
2. Racism was around long before slavery in the U.S.
3. Who says racism is only about "black" people.
4. Aren't "black" people given a fair chance now? I know quite a few that would take great offense to that comment.

[thedirtiestjamocan]

Oh, so the black people think they had it tough? They should just be glad that they aren't Native Americans. Slavery? Shit, try partial genocide. Stop whining, you vaginas! Also, what is all this reparations shit? Look, if there were any original slaves left, then yeah, they should get paid. However, their ancestors only want money.

[AukeSam]

At 2/27/03 12:45 AM, agent66 wrote: Racism came to be whith the slavery, but that's over 150 years ago, so isn't it time to give black people a second FAIR chance? I think it DEFINITELY is!

1. "The slavery" as you put it did not begin or end in the U.S. or 150 years ago.

I'm not only talking about the US, I don't even live there! So it did not begin or end in the U.S. or 150 years ago, but here in Holland it did!

2. Racism was around long before slavery in the U.S.

That probably is because it flew over out of other countries.

3. Who says racism is only about "black" people.

On 2/26/03 12:27PM evil_n_stuff wrote:

I have to say that I am really tired of racism! Especially livin' here in bum fu**k Idaho. Some people just really need to get a grip on life and reality. To be honest is it really all that special bein white?

I reacted to that.

4. Aren't "black" people given a fair chance now? I know quite a few that would take great offense to that comment.

I think white people can have way more respect for other races now! What white people are doing to other people with onother skin is NOT fair! With the second chance I meant that the white people have to think about what is done to black people and make changes in that!

(Ofcourse not every white person is a racist, don't get me wrong)

[Mr-Y]

What I really hate is people thinking that racism is saying trash about African-Americans/Canadians. Hell no, it's not. Don't get me wrong, I'm not racist - I never talk shit or treat people differently because someone's in a specific race - and also, I have friends from many races. But hell, what justice is that, when now, I've seen others get labeled as racist when they just swear at one African-Canadian (I'm from Canada), and others not being racist in the same people's views when they are actually racist, but direct their racism and hate toward another race, such as the Asian race.

So racism is against blacks is wrong. Very wrong. And racism against other people is just as wrong - it doesn't matter what race they come from.

[agent66]

2. Racism was around long before slavery in the U.S.

That probably is because it flew over out of other countries.

Slavery is actually an ancient practice.

I think white people can have way more respect for other races now! What white people are doing to other people with onother skin is NOT fair! With the second chance I meant that the white people have to think about what is done to black people and make changes in that!

(Ofcourse not every white person is a racist, don't get me wrong)

Actually I know a lot of white people who aren't racist, as a matter of fact, most white people I know are not racist. The fact is NO ONE is 100% non racist. It's human nature. I think if you are going to bitch about racism you should bitch about racism, and not one group of people who may be racist.

[Labanzab]

I think many of you have narrowed the discussion to racism toward a specific race. Racism exists among all races.
Ending racism has nothing to do with political correctness or slavery reparations. If anything, these things help add fuel to the fire.
Being "PC" is little more than lip service. You hear stuff like "I am not racist! I allow a dietetically challenged African-American man to clean my toilet!" Many people believe that by being PC they are doing their part to fight racism. It is a way of ridding oneself of "White Guilt".
As long as we have any group demanding preferential treatment, racism will not decline. It is time for us all to get over what is past... remember it, learn from it, but get over it.

[JMHX]

Racism seems to be stereotyped itself as just being the hatred of the blacks. Eh. For a gleaming moment we heard about Anti-Arab Racism in the news. It didn't sell, though.

[stigler]

This is a good and well chosen topic.Ifor one am against racism.I have this mean freakin uncle who is racist.He claims to be Christian but we are all equal under the eyes of God,so tell me who is the christian?

-Stigler-

[swayside]

At 2/26/03 09:24 PM, Labanzab wrote: Racism is just another excuse to hate. If we were all the same color, we would just find another reason. The root of the problem is mankind's capacity to hate being greater than its capacity to love. Until we learn to love one another, there will be racism, sexism, religous intollerance, etc.

you are an idiot. do you honestly think that racism is a means for venting inevitable hate? racists don't hate other races just to hate them. they hate them because they are of that race (why, i don't know).

[swayside]

racism is, in one form, putting one race in a higher position than another. "affirmative action", in the case recently most known, is racism against whites in the fact that it gives those of other races a better chance of admittance based upon something irrelevant to there education.

diversity isn't something that should be actively sought for, either. race should be overlooked regardless of anything. "a mojority of white people do this and a majority of black people do the other", so what? the same logic applies to people who do and don't eat certain cereals. it doesn't matter.

as for whites oweing the blacks something because of the slavery issue of the past, it's just that, of the past. today's blacks never saw slavery. today's whites never saw slavery. today's whites don't owe the blacks anything because of that.

in today's democratic (opinions not government) society, black boeple can get special benefits beacause they are "african american". if a white family raises a child in africa, and that child emmigrates to america and obtains citizenship, he is "african american", right? should he get the same benefits? this is why i will never call black people "african american". they are american as whites are.

i don't mean to harp on blacks and whites so much, but they seem to be the first races that pop into people's minds when they think of racism. so i thought they would be the best for examples.

[Labanzab]

Hatred is hatred... racism is born of hatred. I stand behind my statement.
Individuals belittle other races out of a need to elevate themselves. It is easier to convince yourself that others are beneath you than to actually improve yourself. "I am white... all whites are superior to blacks... ergo, I am superior to all blacks". This is the basic logic behind a great deal of racism.
It is the same logic used by someone who resorts to calling someone an idiot when they do not agree with a statement.

[swayside]

At 2/28/03 08:02 PM, Labanzab wrote: Hatred is hatred... racism is born of hatred. I stand behind my statement.
Individuals belittle other races out of a need to elevate themselves. It is easier to convince yourself that others are beneath you than to actually improve yourself. "I am white... all whites are superior to blacks... ergo, I am superior to all blacks". This is the basic logic behind a great deal of racism.
It is the same logic used by someone who resorts to calling someone an idiot when they do not agree with a statement.

you make it sound as though people who are racist have no other way to express hatred, like it's just the best excuse they could come up with to be hateful. not everyone has this 'enevitable' hatred. you make it sound as though if they didn't hate because of race, they'd revert to the next default setting.

also, race has nothing to do with opinionation. i don't hate you, i hate your opinions (from what i've seen in this topic). who knows, we might agree elsewhere, but i don't know. since you can change opinionation, it's not like racism at all (one can't change his race).

by the way, if i "resorted" to calling you an idiot, i wouldn't have said anything more.

[Mr-Y]

Yeah, I'm glad that this topic has been staying alive - it's a pretty good one and definitely no spam (you hardly see spam in the politics section of NG BBS, but it's still a pretty good topic, like White America).

[swayside]

At 3/1/03 12:51 AM, Mr_Y wrote: Yeah, I'm glad that this topic has been staying alive - it's a pretty good one and definitely no spam (you hardly see spam in the politics section of NG BBS, but it's still a pretty good topic, like White America).

thanks for your um...input.

[WolfSoldier]

O my god not another racism thread. If it's anyone whos racist against someone else its blacks against whites. You cant say anything to a black person without them getting angry and calling you racist. The only way I see to get rid of racism if at all prevelent anymore is to not even take notice of it. In todays world the minoritys get everything for what very very tiny few racist peoples affect there lives.

[Labanzab]

At 2/28/03 09:33 PM, swayside wrote:
you make it sound as though people who are racist have no other way to express hatred, like it's just the best excuse they could come up with to be hateful. not everyone has this 'enevitable' hatred. you make it sound as though if they didn't hate because of race, they'd revert to the next default setting.

also, race has nothing to do with opinionation. i don't hate you, i hate your opinions (from what i've seen in this topic). who knows, we might agree elsewhere, but i don't know. since you can change opinionation, it's not like racism at all (one can't change his race).

by the way, if i "resorted" to calling you an idiot, i wouldn't have said anything more.

I was just being a wise-ass... I didn't mean to imply you were employing hate.
I actually agree with you. I was simply coming from one direction with racism being an outlet for hatred. I agree that there are many other reasons behind it. I was just implying that if we eradicated all other reasons for racism, there would still be hate-filled individuals looking for an outlet. Racism is a convenient direction for such individuals to go.

[Spike-J-Wolfwood]

I had a chilling thought the other day. It seems beneficial for a capitalist society to subtly promote racism because it perpetuates classism. You see, unfortunately minorities make up a large percentage of the lower to middle class. If the upper class and different levels of the lower classes are busy fighting amongst themselves over things like race then they are not thinking about fighting the class system.

[Mr-Y]

At 3/1/03 12:59 AM, WolfSoldier wrote: O my god not another racism thread. If it's anyone whos racist against someone else its blacks against whites. You cant say anything to a black person without them getting angry and calling you racist. The only way I see to get rid of racism if at all prevelent anymore is to not even take notice of it. In todays world the minoritys get everything for what very very tiny few racist peoples affect there lives.

True, blacks being assholes to whites just because they're white is also racist. There are racist assholes from every race, I guess, and also victims or racism from every race too.