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You know Maddox suprisingly makes some good points there...

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At 8/2/06 03:39 PM, blake_anglin wrote: Yea, I know I sound like the hundred of conspiracy theorists out there, but you need to watch this movie. No plane ever went down in Pennsylvania or into the Pentagon. I defy anyone out there to show me any proof of either of these events transpiring, besides what you heard.

Stop being so paranoid.
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just summarize the 'loose change' thing so i dont have to watch a documentary...


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At 8/2/06 03:45 PM, RoobyKillAll wrote: For those of who who actually want to bother seeing the conspiracy side of this event, and stop being so ignorant, at least fucking check out the video before posting here.

I've watched it.

I've read people talk about it, both positively and negatively.

As far as I can see, it seems highly unlikely that there was a conspiracy.

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Err... some planes got hijacked and smashed into some buildings. not exactly rocket scienece is it?


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At 8/2/06 03:44 PM, redface wrote: There is no conspirancy, Maddox said so.

DAMN!

Beat my to it.

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I've never seen Australia, how do I know it doesn't exist?

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At 8/2/06 03:31 PM, blake_anglin wrote: You think you know, but you have no idea.

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At 8/2/06 03:43 PM, Lost_Chances wrote: You know what, I don't care. Blame it on who you like:
The Twin Towers STILL went down.
It STILL killed a lot of innocent people.
It STILL caused a lot of hell for a lot more people.
America will STILL be at war.

So I ask, whats the fucking point on these conspiracy crap? It wouldn't change a fucking thing.

So people should just stop looking for answers? Sure some/most of these guys are conspiracy nuts, what you are saying is just retarded*.

Ahem. I of course meant "alternatively intelligent." /PC/

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At 8/2/06 03:52 PM, BananaBreadMuffin wrote: Here's some fucking proof.

I'll just tack on mine for emphasis. It has lots of pics and is interesting to read.
http://www.abovetops..orum/thread79655/pg1


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I don't get what you're saying.

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seriously, do you even understand democracy guys? its a system of checks and balances. even if the government WANTED to kill thousands of innocent americans, it would have to go through EVERY branch of government and pass in all of them. assholes.


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At 8/2/06 03:51 PM, Trendwhore wrote: So people should just stop looking for answers?

YES! YOU GOT THE FUCKING ANSWERS! OSAMA FUCKING ADMITTED IT AND NOT ONCE DID HE GO "UUUUHHHH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE ON ABOUT!".

Sure some/most of these guys are conspiracy nuts, what you are saying is just retarded*.

Retarded or not, it's fucking true.

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At 8/2/06 03:51 PM, TheChaosDemon wrote: You're all morons.

You're the Moron, I already posted that link.

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At 8/2/06 03:31 PM, blake_anglin wrote: You think you know, but you have no idea....Or maybe you do. If you haven't seen the documentary Loose Change Vol. II, if you're not George W., or you weren't there, then you DON"T know what happened. Trust me on this.

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At 8/2/06 03:52 PM, BananaBreadMuffin wrote: Here's some fucking proof.

Oh yeah?!

Well here is some fucking proof of evolution! We evolved from monkeys!

http://www.jamesphot..a/finger_monkeys.jpg


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I know. Rats were doing this:

WHat really went on during 9/11?


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At 8/2/06 03:55 PM, Lost_Chances wrote:
YES! YOU GOT THE FUCKING ANSWERS! OSAMA FUCKING ADMITTED IT AND NOT ONCE DID HE GO "UUUUHHHH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE ON ABOUT!".

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Yea, I fell for it too. That was not Osama Bin Laden. It actually looks nothing like him. Trust me, I am as big a skeptic as anybody out there. But this is the truth. Where do we draw the line between "Oh, he's just a another stupid-ass conspiracy theorist" and "holy crap, this stuff might actually be true". I know it's far-fetched, but how much do you actually know about what went on during 9-11. Nothing. I'm not eevn saying I do, not by a long-shot. But you all need to recognize, this shit is the truth. You hear everyone saying what a horrible President Bush is, and he is, but when someone even tries to spread some light on the matter, and challenge what actually happened that day, he is cast as a crazy un-patriotic nutcase. It blows my mind.


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At 8/2/06 03:44 PM, redface wrote: There is no conspirancy, Maddox said so.

Ya I totally agree with Maddox. I am into conspiracy's and shit as well but if you believe loose change.. Then you should have probably been in the tower's.

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At 8/2/06 04:06 PM, blake_anglin wrote: I know it's far-fetched, but how much do you actually know about what went on during 9-11. Nothing.

So when I came into school before the second plane hit watching live video of it in class and all of the sudden the video pans to a plane hitting the second tower, that wasn't real?

What about the planes and the people on board? Did they just land safely and go back home to their families?

Have you even read any of the sites that have been posted providing evidence to the contrary?

What about the home videos of the planes hitting the towers?

Why do we call conspiracy theorists crazy, and call their claims unfounded?
BECAUSE THEIR IDEAS ARE CRAZY AND THEIR CLAIMS ARE UNFOUNDED.

please do your own research on BOTH sides of the issue before jumping to a conclusion that makes perfect sense one way and no sense another way.


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At 8/2/06 04:14 PM, DrWurm wrote:
At 8/2/06 04:06 PM, blake_anglin wrote: I know it's far-fetched, but how much do you actually know about what went on during 9-11. Nothing.
So when I came into school before the second plane hit watching live video of it in class and all of the sudden the video pans to a plane hitting the second tower, that wasn't real?

Hell yea, it was real. But only two buildings in history have ever came down from a fire, which is the official explanation for all three buildings, or a plane running into it, which has happened more times than you would think. The government tells us that jet fuel burned the infrastructure of the building, which is impossible as the steel used in those buildings was tested for heat levels way higher than the max heat that can be achived using jet fuel.

What about the planes and the people on board? Did they just land safely and go back home to their families?

Watch the movie. It provides proof as to what happened to these innocent people.

Have you even read any of the sites that have been posted providing evidence to the contrary?

Yes, and they make a valid point. I have looked at the evidence, and have decided that this story is, by far, the most logical and likely, however horrible.

What about the home videos of the planes hitting the towers?

What about them. I never said no planes hit the towers, they most certainly did. But the Pentagon, that's a differant story. The Shiridan Hotel, which has security cameras facing the side of the Pentagon presumed to have been hit by the blast, but before anyone could see them, the U.S. government confisacted them. Luckily for us, however, the released five frames of the video, none of which show any sign of a plane.

Why do we call conspiracy theorists crazy, and call their claims unfounded?

BECAUSE THEIR IDEAS ARE CRAZY AND THEIR CLAIMS ARE UNFOUNDED.

I don't agree. The media and the government have done a damn good job of casting anything that is not in sync with their ideas. They cast them as ridiculus and unfounded.

please do your own research on BOTH sides of the issue before jumping to a conclusion that makes perfect sense one way and no sense another way.

I assure you that I have done TEN times the research you have on this topic, for both sides, than you.


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At 8/2/06 04:26 PM, blake_anglin wrote:
Hell yea, it was real. But only two buildings in history have ever came down from a fire, which is the official explanation for all three buildings, or a plane running into it, which has happened more times than you would think. The government tells us that jet fuel burned the infrastructure of the building, which is impossible as the steel used in those buildings was tested for heat levels way higher than the max heat that can be achived using jet fuel.

1. Impact from the Terrorist Planes
When Boeing jets piloted by terrorists struck the Twin Towers, some 10,000 gallons (38 kiloliters) of jet fuel fed an enormous fireball. But, the impact of the planes and the burst of flames did not make the Towers collapse right away. Like most buildings, the Twin Towers had redundant design. The term redundant design means that when one system fails, another carries the load. Each of the Twin Towers had 244 columns around a central core that housed the elevators, stairwells, mechanical systems, and utilities. When some columns were damaged, others could still support the building.

2. Heat from the Fires
The sprinkler system was damaged by the impact of the planes. But even if the sprinklers had been working, they could not have maintained enough pressure to stop the fire. Fed by the remaining jet fuel, the heat became intense. Most fires don't get hotter than 900 to 1,100 degrees F. The World Trade Center fire may have reached 1,300 or 1,400 degrees F. Structural steel does not easily melt, but it will lose about half its strength at 1,200 degrees F. The steel structure of the Twin Towers was weakened by the extreme heat. The steel also became distorted because the heat was not a uniform temperature.

3. Collapsing Floors
Most fires start in one area and then spread. The fire from the terrorist planes covered the area of an entire floor almost instantly. As the weakened floors began to collapse, they crashed into the floors below. With the weight of the plunging floors accelerating, the exterior walls buckled.

Yes, and they make a valid point. I have looked at the evidence, and have decided that this story is, by far, the most logical and likely, however horrible.

Please breifly summarize why you think the government would attack its own people, I'm dying to know.

What about them. I never said no planes hit the towers, they most certainly did. But the Pentagon, that's a differant story. The Shiridan Hotel, which has security cameras facing the side of the Pentagon presumed to have been hit by the blast, but before anyone could see them, the U.S. government confisacted them. Luckily for us, however, the released five frames of the video, none of which show any sign of a plane.

You obviously love that video with the marilyn manson music. I must admit that I was a little shaken at first. However a quick trip to this site is all you need to see the evidence to refute every claim about a pentagon missile. I dare you to compete with what they say and not sound crazy.

You have to realize that it's not like in the movies where the media and government are all heartless people who "just do their job". They're real people with real feelings. Most have families and are just your everyday freindly neighbors. They're not going to hand out misinformation because it's their job.

please do your own research on BOTH sides of the issue before jumping to a conclusion that makes perfect sense one way and no sense another way.
I assure you that I have done TEN times the research you have on this topic, for both sides, than you.

Then you won't mind giving me sites you've researched so that i can refute them.


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At 8/2/06 04:06 PM, blake_anglin wrote: It blows my mind.

Bottom line is: Would it change anything?

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Please breifly summarize why you think the government would attack its own people, I'm dying to know.

What about them. I never said no planes hit the towers, they most certainly did. But the Pentagon, that's a differant story. The Shiridan Hotel, which has security cameras facing the side of the Pentagon presumed to have been hit by the blast, but before anyone could see them, the U.S. government confisacted them. Luckily for us, however, the released five frames of the video, none of which show any sign of a plane.

You obviously love that video with the marilyn manson music. I must admit that I was a little shaken at first. However a quick trip to this site is all you need to see the evidence to refute every claim about a pentagon missile. I dare you to compete with what they say and not sound crazy.

Wow, part of me wants to believe you're doing this for the sake of argument. That website, is just what I thought it was. All of those chunks are so big, they could be carried by hand. And let's forget, just for a second, that planes don't have wings. Then I guess a 16 foot hole would make sense.

Why would someone do all this? Surely money wouldn't be an issue. Nah...


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i want to know:

WHO THE FUCK CARES ABOUT THE PENTAGON?

seriously. who cares? why?

also, please note that the media and the government DO NOT work together. the medias purpose is making the government look bad, and they're apparently doing very well.


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It's easilly explainable.

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At 8/2/06 03:43 PM, Lost_Chances wrote: You know what, I don't care. Blame it on who you like:
The Twin Towers STILL went down.
It STILL killed a lot of innocent people.
It STILL caused a lot of hell for a lot more people.
America will STILL be at war.

So I ask, whats the fucking point on these conspiracy crap? It wouldn't change a fucking thing.

Yeah, lets not punish criminals for the crimes they commit, i mean, who gives a fuck, things are STILL destroyed, people STILL are murdered.


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At 8/2/06 03:31 PM, blake_anglin wrote: You think you know, but you have no idea....Or maybe you do. If you haven't seen the documentary Loose Change Vol. II, if you're not George W., or you weren't there, then you DON"T know what happened. Trust me on this.

seriously what are you talking about!


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it doesnt fucking matter becuase it happened and you cant do nything about it, SO SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!

im pissed that people act like they can stop things that already happened or that they know more about stuff that doesnt matter anymore cus you CANT CHANGE IT. IT HAPPENED, PEOPLE DIED THINGS BLOW UP, AND END OF STORY.

jesus christ people lately....


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