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Looking good so far :P

Here's my tutorial. =D

http://www.newground../topic.php?id=538608

Basic Walk-Cycle Tutorial

Animation Main
Useful Links For Flash Animators

--ON THE NG BBS--
Storyboarding Guide, by -Luis (scroll half way down...)
Walk Cycle Tutorial, by Dogget
White Noise, TV Static, by electricfreak

--ON THE NET--
Explosion Demo (With Time Controls), by fenix
Absolute Flash Basics & Head Drawing , by Cartoon Smart
V-CAM , by Sham Bhangal

Let us know if you find any dead links
Heehee... Anim's an anagram of Main... ^_^

To be honest, Luis, I'm afraid this won't be very effective. Sure some useful guides containing physical information about how certain movements come alive, but you can't really teach someone how to be a good animator - which AS: Main can. The key to be a good animator is practice, even by reading a thousand animation tutorials the ability to animate would be very limited. Actionscript is a technical form of art, you can learn, remember, and execute.

At 8/1/06 11:06 PM, -fenix- wrote: http://denvish.net/u..011_explosiontut.php


i have that so far, i'm still writing up the text to go with it, and i have videos and reference links too

wow that helped me thanks :D and i think i might make a running tutorial or something along those lines

At 8/1/06 09:45 PM, electricfreak wrote: -White Noise/TV Static Effect

Oh great, I've been looking for something like that for ages :)

This seems like a good idea, a thread to direct all the animation newbies to.

At 8/2/06 06:37 AM, -Toast- wrote: To be honest, Luis, I'm afraid this won't be very effective.

Personally, I'd be disinclined to agree with you Toast.

The hundreds of inbetweeners Disney used to employ shows that you can teach animation to anyone with the bare minimum of training. And while the codes in AS:Main do tend to come in the form of plug-in-and-play, so do a lot of the principles of animation.

The purpose of these threads is to create a reference for those who lack thier own resource or the ability to find the sometimes obscure pieces of data. Walk Cycle training, for instance, is about as quintessential to animation as the KeyIsDown code is for Actionscripters - and if people continually get referenced to the KeyIsDown tutorial on AS:Main when they ask the question, can't animators be linked to the Walk Cycle tute in this thread?

Just as bookmarking AS:Main won't help you become wundercoder, this thread won't help you become uberanimator. But it may give you somewhere to start. And that's what all the X:Main threads are about - giving someone a place to start.

At 8/1/06 09:40 PM, -Luis- wrote:

:Stuff.

woot! this has made me all happy and stuff!
oh yeah, bookmarked.

ill get started with facial expressions

Can we make tutorials on drawing too, not just animation?
I want to make one on backgrounds

Facial Expessions
Finished it!

At 8/2/06 07:00 AM, KaynSlamdyke wrote:

At 8/2/06 06:37 AM, -Toast- wrote: To be honest, Luis, I'm afraid this won't be very effective.

The hundreds of inbetweeners Disney used to employ shows that you can teach animation to anyone with the bare minimum of training. And while the codes in AS:Main do tend to come in the form of plug-in-and-play, so do a lot of the principles of animation.

Yes exactly, only th e principles can come out of that, but a lot of people tend to forget that principles are not always the only element needed to master. Mastering the principles without ever animating will of course not help at all, while animating all the time without reading guides can lead you wherever you want. Personally I think it's better to experiment with explosion animations for a week or two, find your own way of doing it - the way that you like the most - rather than reading a quick guide which will show you which option is 'the best'.

Just as bookmarking AS:Main won't help you become wundercoder

Oh? What makes you think that? Programming is different, it would be meaningless to try and find new commands and methods if you can simply learn from guides. Actionscript is the countrary of Animation - first you need to learn and read, and then you experiment with what you already know create new codes and tests.

But it may give you somewhere to start. And that's what all the X:Main threads are about - giving someone a place to start.

I haven't animated for very long before I stopped, I might be wrong about this, but you first need to know the program and experiment with it for a while before getting to the more advanced step: reading and learning from accurate sources.

Everyone has different methods of learning, and while reading tutorials all the time for everything instead of experimenting with your own stuff (like 90% of this forum's newer scripters >.<) can be very detrimental to your creativity and style, looking for a little help and advice here and there, just like in scripting and programming, can only be a good thing.

OMG long sentance

Well I would be happy to set up a wiki on my site for NGers to add animation tutorials and even AS tutorials if enough people used it and updated it.

I have enough bandwidth, Id just need to buy a new domain name.

I would only do it if enough people were interested though...

At 8/2/06 07:26 AM, -Toast- wrote: stuff

I agree with Toast actually. Animation is just one of those things you cant really teach. You learn through your battle wounds.. However no harm in just supplying people with the information if they need it at some point. People who truly are out to improve or see whats out there will find the use of the thread and if one person finds new inspiration/ technique in their process then this thread succeeded. This thread is mostly for people who know about animation but maybe just want to know how to streamline the process.

-L

I like the idea, maybe I'll be able to contribute some animation tutorials, maybe at least when I become good at certain un-touched aspects of it.

At 8/2/06 08:09 AM, -Luis- wrote:

At 8/2/06 07:26 AM, -Toast- wrote: stuff

I agree with Toast actually. Animation is just one of those things you cant really teach. You learn through your battle wounds.. However no harm in just supplying people with the information if they need it at some point. People who truly are out to improve or see whats out there will find the use of the thread and if one person finds new inspiration/ technique in their process then this thread succeeded. This thread is mostly for people who know about animation but maybe just want to know how to streamline the process.

-L

Hm, that's interesting Luis. I believe this thread is successful though and it will be. Also, with what Toast said, I agree with that as well. Atleast you guys put all your knowledge into your posts rather than sounding like an idiot saying this thread won't really do much.

If you want to work on it, and try to get better in animation than you will. Especially, if you are determined. I've been animating for over a year now and I know I've improved since May 2005, I improved quite alot. And I used alot of tutorials to help with FBF animations and studied some animations to see how they've done it. Perfect takes practice and that's what I'm aiming for. Not perfect..but close to it. And that's why I admire you Luis since you put passion into your work and your videos always end up leaving me speechless.

Now that's why I won't give up on animation. And this thread will help me in animating since it will tell me more about animation techniques and I may be able to add a nice thread to this page as well one day as I experience from other's already known knowledge.

That is really all I have to say.
Thank you everyone that has put inspiration into this thread.

I bid you all good luck,
-Rudy

At 8/2/06 08:09 AM, -Luis- wrote:

At 8/2/06 07:26 AM, -Toast- wrote: stuff

However no harm in just supplying people with the information if they need it at some point.

Yep, maybe it sounded like that but I'm not against this thread at all, thought I was afraid that people might rely on it too much and use it as the only source they learn from, and then get impatient and bored (like I did :P) when they realize that they need to work a lot before being able to animate as they wanted.

-L

Hasn't it been forbidden to sign your posts outside your sig? :P

Idea seems pretty good. I sure people have posted tons of tutorials and such. I remember a FbF tut by SaintShun a while back, and the weekilies that -hashbrown- used to do were helpful too.

oheyah i liked this idea. i guess i will write one tutorial :)

At 8/1/06 09:44 PM, -Luis- wrote: By the way while you are looking at the V-Cam put that book in your shopping cart. It has the most invaluable information around. Shit that you would have never thought of but when you read it youre like damn im so happy someone thought of this.

I have the flash hacks book, and yeah I'd recommend it :D, nifty stuff

I will be 99.9% devoted to this thread.

And everyone knows this will never be true.

I'll start on a basic tut right away.

should this not also include basics for drawing - and such

sites like

Polykarbon

are great for learning to draw anime figures is a variety of poses as well which can help with animation

At 8/2/06 08:42 AM, -Toast- wrote: -L
Hasn't it been forbidden to sign your posts outside your sig? :P

Its a bad habit, like masturbation. I cant help myself.

At 8/2/06 08:09 AM, -Luis- wrote:

At 8/2/06 07:26 AM, -Toast- wrote: stuff

I agree with Toast actually. Animation is just one of those things you cant really teach.

Which will more than offend the people who slugged through B(A) Computer Animation at Uni this year... :p

I can see where everyone's coming from in the "Code Learning != Art Learning" debate, but a lot of the boundaries cross. When I suggested this thread, I was merely interested in what people's response would be, and why no one had created the artistic cousin to AS Main.

A lot of my artistic learning comes from a vast variety of online tutes like Julie Dillon and Polykarbon and books like the Animators Survival Kit and How to Draw Comics the Marvel Way (it wasn't until I got to University that I ever had anything graded on my ability to make something pretteh), and I know how hard it is to find collections of these. And a lot of the principles of art and animation can be summed up with words, making it perfect for forums.

I'll keep updating this thread as people attach things (although I'm not devoting my life to it's maintenance), and I am looking through everything people suggest to keep it's quality up. So far it looks exactly as I thought it would look - a collection of links, threads and random insights, which should be a perfect melting pot for animators and artists looking for new tricks, or newbies to gain some footing.

Can someone Give me the name of a Flash program "To make Flash movies & Games" ?

At 8/2/06 09:46 AM, -Luis- wrote: Its a bad habit, like masturbation. I cant help myself.

Lol. He has modly powers, he has no limits, whahahahah.
Anyway, good idea -luis-. This shoudl help dumbasses such as myself. XD.
You should set out some rules though, like in AS:Main. So people have to put Animation Main at the top and such.
Nice clock thing by the way, the cup spilling was awsome :)

At 8/2/06 10:03 AM, Golmit wrote: Can someone Give me the name of a Flash program "To make Flash movies & Games" ?

It's called "Flash."

New to flash? Read this first!

It's called Macromedia Flash 8 Professional, or Adobe Flash 9 (will be out soon).

www.adobe.com/flash

No offense...but damn.......you think people would know theses things before they get on these forums 0.o