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Luis

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Posted at: 8/1/06 09:40 PM

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We have an AS Main, and a FOSS for the actionscripters to look through when they get stumped, or for people to link to the hundreds of newbies a week this forum gets asking "how do I maek a game plz?". We can handle Actionscript related problems with Flash on this forum with no problem thanks to AS:Main.

But what about the people who are animating? Where's our vast resource of Walk Cycle, Onion Skinning, V-Cam and other tooning related matters? Wouldn't putting together a big list of these kind of resources be nice?

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Thanks luis....i never thought anybody would repost this


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Kayn your too slow so i made this for you.

Anyway one of the most useful things in the animator arsenal is Sham's V-Cam

Its a fucking godsend. I'm lame so I just started using it yesterday.

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Yeah, it would. You'd need someone to moderate it, and keep things in order. I'd post a tutorial or two..


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By the way while you are looking at the V-Cam put that book in your shopping cart. It has the most invaluable information around. Shit that you would have never thought of but when you read it youre like damn im so happy someone thought of this.

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Id like to post a tut how would i do so.


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wow... but how we show our AM? drawing examples or writing the steps?

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Well, it's not really hard or that much "animation" but I made this earlier today. Add it if you want. :)

http://newgrounds.co../topic.php?id=538311
-White Noise/TV Static Effect

Hey, can we also add stuff for just art in general, or more static effects that look cool? Or would you like to keep it solely animation?


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At 8/1/06 09:42 PM, -Luis- wrote: Kayn your too slow so i made this for you.

Is nice to have mod backing. Besides, as I said in the thread I started I don't actually feel I'm that good an animator to start it up, and there are times where I just jump off the forum for a few weeks, which would make modding it hard.

Still, thanks Luis. :)

I wonder why so many people spell Kayn with an E...
Must be the same reason people spell my real name with an I before the E...
Stupid Welsh name...

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Well i think tutorials are best shown on a webpage where you can mix images with instruction. Unlike Actionscript tutorials, animation really requires the sense of sight to really get the most out of it.

Since not everyone has server space to do that type of thing the next best thing is to link to a swf that explains your point.. it doesnt even have to be so structured and instructional. Sometimes what i find most useful is seeing the behind the scenes of an animation. I dont need someone to hold my hand i just need to see where it originates and how it evolves into the finished product.

One thing I would like to say about tutorials and threads like these is to keep in mind that theres millions of ways of solving your animation problem. Dont necessary feel like theres one way to do it. Do whatevers comfortable to you, even if its weird to someone else if it makes sense to you then who cares.

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At 8/1/06 09:40 PM, -Luis- wrote: Stuff

Looks like you've started the Animation : Main


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Animation Main
Useful Links For Flash Animators

ON THE NG BBS
White Noise, TV Static, by electricfreak

ON THE NET
V-CAM , by Sham Bhangal

Let us know if you find any dead links

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This isn't exactly animation but it will help animators...

Flash Hotkeys:

Animation : Main


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wow...that actually helped me :)


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So, basically we make animation tutorials with the title Animation: blahblah and we post it here, and you update it every page like Denvish?

Sounds good :D

I plan on making many tutorials for this thread :)

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i can make a big page and put them on my site, i just need to get my site up and running again though


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Heres my contribution to the thread, I almost never like to show my process because im lame but heres the art of the storyboard:

Storyboard general rules:

1- dont worry about neatness, if you can understand it nothing else matters. Use whatever color/ stroke size / tool you find fast and easy

2- speed is key. Atleast for me.. my creative jizz lasts about as long as an average orgasm so if i dont get shit on my workspace quick ill forget the idea.. so work fast and cover as much ground as you can... make notes for things so you can later read and refresh your memory with.

3- this is optional but i like to colorcode things so that i have an easier time rendering them when im doing the final. When i can easily tell what is background art and what will be moving i can tackle the layers much easier.

In the sample below you can see how important the storyboard is in the movie it really influences the camera and mood. Of course you almost never will follow the storyboard 100 percent and thats ok, its just there as a general gameplan, not a bible.

Ok on to the visual samples.

Preliminary storyboard

Finished product

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Damn, you sure no waht your doing. Great job with that finished product


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At 8/1/06 10:13 PM, -Luis- wrote: Storyboard general rules:

you have no idea how long i've been waiting for this
i always fuck up my animations cuz i don't know how to storyboard and i try to make it too neat so i just say fuck it and start the finished product
thankyou


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Hey, I just got a super "the best" idea.

Does anyone here know how to code something like a wiki, but for animation. So everyone/a set panel of users can edit them? Change pictures, descriptions, add example and links.

Is there any "open sourcey" kind of thing, or would it be a bitch to code? Because that would own, I'm not thinking on NG but just in general...

*dreams*

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Hmm, I guess I'll get started on a basic walk cycle tutorial.


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Fucking finally.

I'll make one soon.

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At 8/1/06 10:22 PM, electricfreak wrote: Hey, I just got a super "the best" idea.

Does anyone here know how to code something like a wiki, but for animation. So everyone/a set panel of users can edit them? Change pictures, descriptions, add example and links.

Is there any "open sourcey" kind of thing, or would it be a bitch to code? Because that would own, I'm not thinking on NG but just in general...

*dreams*

authorblues knows how to code it, he has an actionscript wiki on his site

i'm starting an Explosion tut


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At 8/1/06 10:22 PM, electricfreak wrote: Does anyone here know how to code something like a wiki, but for animation. So everyone/a set panel of users can edit them? Change pictures, descriptions, add example and links.

im dreamin right there with you


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I made a few drawing tuts here. But I stopped because nobody seemed to care. If you like them post in that thread and I will make more!

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At 8/1/06 10:22 PM, electricfreak wrote: Does anyone here know how to code something like a wiki, but for animation. So everyone/a set panel of users can edit them? Change pictures, descriptions, add example and links.
At 8/1/06 10:38 PM, -Blackfang- wrote:
im dreamin right there with you

A lot of the major Wiki packages out there come bundled and ready for installation straight to a server. MediaWiki is the one Wikipedia runs from, and Tikiwiki or PHPWiki are fairly reliable too.

Maybe it's another project for Denvish? :p

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Yes putting those in a list would be nice! V-cam is interesting I had fun with this Flash hack! It will add some different perspective! I hope in my next flash :D

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At 8/1/06 10:47 PM, KaynSlamdyke wrote: Maybe it's another project for Denvish? :p

Yeah, But I haven't seen him around the Flash forum for a while. The only time I've seen him recently was in like a "Where's Denvish" thread and he only posted "I'm not dead" or something.

I would totally do the wiki thing but I'm really impatient with code, Like if it's not just set up perfect I'll get really mad trying to get it what I want it to do. :P


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http://denvish.net/u..011_explosiontut.php

i have that so far, i'm still writing up the text to go with it, and i have videos and reference links too


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