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I barely agree, AT ALL with the Vatican, I am more open, than they believe the doors to their church are... So yah......
And I have posted in here, MANY times, maybe you just weren't paying any attention, since I am definitely not important.... being that I am not a Satanist. But what can I say, you believe what you want to believe, but soon enough, you'll find out..........


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Posted at: 7/28/06 05:22 AM

At 7/28/06 05:16 AM, phoenix7289 wrote: I agree.
Now the topic starter can simply......
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Up.

Look. All religions that revolve around Jesus Christ all believe in treating eachothers as equals and keeping an open mind. What you are doing is EXACTLY the opposite of what you should be doing. Nobody is force feeding you to read any of it (which you didn't, and after you read this, you might feel compelled to get informed).

I'm not a religious man, but I am very open and knowledgable of religions.


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At 7/28/06 05:22 AM, Crimson_Edge wrote:
At 7/28/06 05:16 AM, phoenix7289 wrote: I agree.
Now the topic starter can simply......
Shut................

Up.
Look. All religions that revolve around Jesus Christ all believe in treating eachothers as equals and keeping an open mind. What you are doing is EXACTLY the opposite of what you should be doing. Nobody is force feeding you to read any of it (which you didn't, and after you read this, you might feel compelled to get informed).

I'm not a religious man, but I am very open and knowledgable of religions.

I did read it, for your information. So why don't you back off. This is getting a bit rather annoying............ Is Newgrounds, REALLY a place to battle it out about religions? I mean, who knows who all that well? I know I barely know any of you, and you me, if you actually knew me, you'd probably think a bit differently.......


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personally, i like to help others. and hwo is it not a religion? a belief can be a religion (hell, theres a spongebob squarepants religion). no disrespect though i find it intriguing.


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Posted at: 7/28/06 05:36 AM

Note: I am not trying to debunk Christianity. No one can debunk any religion, I am simply stating some items that were presented to me as fact by religious teachers, the History Channel, and various readings from relaible sources on both the internet and books and magazines. And yes, I do look like a white Jesus.

At 7/28/06 05:22 AM, phoenix7289 wrote: I barely agree, AT ALL with the Vatican, I am more open, than they believe the doors to their church are... So yah......

Fantastic.

And I have posted in here, MANY times, maybe you just weren't paying any attention, since I am definitely not important.... being that I am not a Satanist. But what can I say, you believe what you want to believe, but soon enough, you'll find out..........

As of this post, you have posted some 312 times.

The religion is simple. You focus on yourself instead of others. It's the inverse of Christianity, except it flows with mans laws instead (although Christianity does as well). Budhism is a bit like Satanism, except not at the same time.

And please, you're just some "17 year old" who went to church camp and had some guy who dressed up like Jesus do a play about Heaven. Jesus was a real person, there is no doubt about it, but did he even do ANYTHING that was written? Doubtfull. Most of the letters and gospels were not written by the apostles. Instead, they were written several HUNDRED years later. Go watch the Discovery Channel/History Channel some. You'll learn a lot about stuff like this.

At 7/28/06 05:25 AM, phoenix7289 wrote: I did read it, for your information. So why don't you back off.

Getting a bit heated? Think Jesus would want that?

This is getting a bit rather annoying............ Is Newgrounds, REALLY a place to battle it out about religions? I mean, who knows who all that well? I know I barely know any of you, and you me, if you actually knew me, you'd probably think a bit differently.......

Phoenix, listen guy. You came into the thread, which was a very simple explanation of the basics of Satanism, and began to bash things along with using way to many elipses. Knowing you, whether you want to actually think so or not, wouldn't change my religion. Note, I do not follow any major religion, infact, I have my own. It's very special to me and an emotional thing. I don't try to force others into believing it, nor have I explained it to anybody. It's a very personal thing.

Let me tell you a story. I dated a very religious Christian girl for about 3 years. During that period I did a LOT of research about many religions, mainly Christianity. Everytime I would find out ANYTHING neat or interesting, I would tell her about it. Her reaction was very similar to yours, regardless if it was suportive to the religion or not.

She would tell me that she had spoke to god, or atleast somebody who has, and she tried her damndest to get me to believe her. I didn't really care, mainly because she was an insane nutbag, but a very sweet person untill the end of our relationship.

To sum it up, there is no way of proving that you did any of this. Infact, I have an invisible leprachaun sitting on my shoulder. You can't see it, only I can.


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im so sick of ppl saying shit about satanism tht isnt true! ffs, fuckin gernalists...


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At 7/28/06 06:46 AM, mind_crasher wrote: im so sick of ppl saying shit about satanism tht isnt true! ffs, fuckin gernalists...

It has nothing to do with journalists at all. It's fear brought about by a lack of knowledge on a subject.


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At 7/28/06 06:50 AM, Crimson_Edge wrote:
It has nothing to do with journalists at all. It's fear brought about by a lack of knowledge on a subject.

Well, during the Satanic Scare, the Christians making the lies up did run around claiming to be "independent journalists" alot.

By the way, you also forgot the fact that Phoenix claims to have undeniable proof that God exists, but he can't post it or else in 7 days some little demon girl will come out of a well and kill him or something.

I wasn't paying to good attention, to be honest.

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At 7/28/06 07:02 AM, LettuceClock2 wrote: Read you IM's.

Fix yout posts.


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At 7/27/06 10:54 PM, Lettuceclock wrote:
At 7/27/06 10:46 PM, RedCoin wrote: Nice one, I'm a LaVeyan satanist myself, and I'm sick of people making assumptions.
Personally, I believe it's utter bullshit: if you appease someone else instead of just yourself, they will appease you back, and usually others can service you better then you can sevice yourself (Note: I am NOT trying to make sexuall inuendo here). However, whether or not I believe the mans Idea's do not matter, since they where genius, and deserve to at be properly known, and I do certainly believe his claims that we are just animals, nothing more (not to mention a few others).

Where does it say anything about not appeasing others?
A wise satanist would appease another, knowing that it could benefit them.
Satanism teaches you to "use" people.

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At 7/28/06 07:05 AM, RedCoin wrote:
Where does it say anything about not appeasing others?
A wise satanist would appease another, knowing that it could benefit them.
Satanism teaches you to "use" people.

My bad. I mean I appease other before I appease myself. My prioritis are reversed from that of a Satanists, though yes, we do still share said priorities.

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Sorry, but you're fucking nuts. That guy is fucking nuts. Satan = Evil, fuck with evil and evil will fuck you hard in the ass with a catus.

Just to let you know, I'm an athiest. I don't believe.

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I don't neccessairly believe in "satanism" however, I do believe in life energy, and how you use and concentrate the energy will directly effect your life. The energy I believe in is probobly the same thing satanist believe in.


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Yeah all I have to say to this is fuck you Lettuceclock...

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At 7/28/06 08:02 AM, FrozenNoob wrote: Yeah all I have to say to this is fuck you Lettuceclock...

Ok, but I'm a pitcher, not a catcher.

If I may wonder, why do you have the overwhelming urge to engage in sexuall intercourse with me?

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At 7/28/06 07:03 AM, Crimson_Edge wrote:
Fix yout posts.

Lol with the wha?

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At 7/28/06 05:11 AM, phoenix7289 wrote: I HAVE gained PROOF that God, Jesus Christ, the Holy Spirit, and Satan, are all very existant

....lol

but back on topic, i have friends who call them selfs "satanists" but i think its just a phase, etiher way the whole devil,hell,lucifer,satan,blood sacrafice etc claimed under satanism is just a different version of what you put forward.

there are many versions that call themselves santanism which always stray from the riginal it seems.

Just like the modern day terrorists and the arguement "we are muslims" and "you are not muslims"


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At 7/28/06 07:18 AM, Lost_Chances wrote: Sorry, but you're fucking nuts. That guy is fucking nuts. Satan = Evil, fuck with evil and evil will fuck you hard in the ass with a catus.

Just to let you know, I'm an athiest. I don't believe.

The word "satan" is latin for "opposer of god."
Meaning that if you choose to ignore and reject god you do not have to worry about heaven or hell, so instead of racking up points for the afterlife, you can live life how you choose. There are rules in satanism, but they're just basicly common sence. In other words, do not steal means keep your ass out of jail.

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BUT THE KIDS IN HOT TOPIC SAID DIFFERENT.

No really that was a interesting post lettuce. If only people would read it before jumping to 'I know god exist i saw him1!1!21@!!'

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NO NO NO!!!!!!!!!! DO NOT LISTEN TO Lettuseclok! HE'S TRYING TO BRAINWASH YOU INTO THINKING THE DEVIL IS GOOD!! HE'S NOT!!! HE IS THE ENEMY OF GOD! THIS MAN WHO STARTED THIS POST IS A FALSE TEACHER!!! THE DEVIL IS THE ONE WHO CAUSED ADAM AND EVE TO FALL INTO SIN!!!!! SAINTANISTIC PEOPLE WORSHIP A LOWER AND FALSE SPRIT!!! HE IS THE FATHER OF ALL LIES!!! THE MAN'S TEACHING ABOUT THE DEVIL IS WRONG!!!!! THE DEVIL HAS CONTAMINATED AND FLOODED HIS SOUL!!!! THE ONLY WAY TO HEAVEN IS THROGH JESUS CHRIST OUR LORD AND SAVIOR ONLY!!! CHRIST SAYS IN THE BIBLE"THERE WILL BE MANY FALSE PROPETS IN THE WORLD REPRESENTING ME BUT DON'T LISTEN TO THEM,THEY ARE WOLFS IN SHEEPS CLOTHING"AND"I AM THE WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE NO ONE COMES TO THE FATHER EXCEPT THROUGH ME".


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At 7/28/06 01:05 PM, rimsta897 wrote: NO NO NO!!!!!!!!!! DO NOT LISTEN TO Lettuseclok!

did you even read it?

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To be quite frank, it sounds like a "bullshit religion" like Scientology. Harnessing the inner Satan? Please.

Now, personally I feel they had a rather bad way of naming their...belief. I mean they understood that the name of the christian devil was Satan and called themselves Satanists even though they apparently don't worship the devil.

If I read (skimmed) that right, they're harnessing the rebellion inside themselves so why couldn't they find a better name? Hell, rebellionism would have sounded better, it wouldn't have tied them to devil worshipping.

I stopped reading when you got to the part about magic and spells, that's what gave this away as a "bullshit religion". Don't get me wrong, I don't believe in any of the popular religions either but Satanism is way too abstract in its beliefs comparitively.

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At 7/28/06 01:23 PM, Unimportant wrote: To be quite frank, it sounds like a "bullshit religion" like Scientology. Harnessing the inner Satan? Please.

any different then harnessing the inner Christ? (By that I'm referring to the Christian belief of accepting Jesus into 'your heart')

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At 7/28/06 01:23 PM, Unimportant wrote: To be quite frank, it sounds like a "bullshit religion" like Scientology. Harnessing the inner Satan? Please.

Why? Christianity, Islam, and Buddhism all believe in harnessing inner force.

Now, personally I feel they had a rather bad way of naming their...belief. I mean they understood that the name of the christian devil was Satan and called themselves Satanists even though they apparently don't worship the devil.

No, the Christian Devil is NOT called Satan. This is a common misconception made by those who have not read the bible. The Christian Satan was named Lucifer. 'Satan' simply is a translation of "Opposer of God", it's not his name. Just like the word "Christ"; that isn't a name, it's the English translation of the word "Saviour".

If I read (skimmed) that right, they're harnessing the rebellion inside themselves so why couldn't they find a better name? Hell, rebellionism would have sounded better, it wouldn't have tied them to devil worshipping.

.....Why would any of that bother them?

I stopped reading when you got to the part about magic and spells, that's what gave this away as a "bullshit religion". Don't get me wrong, I don't believe in any of the popular religions either but Satanism is way too abstract in its beliefs comparitively.

Congradulations: you didn't read the post, and therefor have no fucking clue what your talking about, making you look like a moron. The Werewolf spell has been documented on tape, and those doing it swear it works; theres no reason they would lie.

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At 7/28/06 01:30 PM, Lettuceclock wrote:
At 7/28/06 01:23 PM, Unimportant wrote:
Congradulations: you didn't read the post, and therefor have no fucking clue what your talking about, making you look like a moron. The Werewolf spell has been documented on tape, and those doing it swear it works; theres no reason they would lie.

Just like people who believe in God swear they've seen him and there's no reason they'd lie?

Alright, I took some time and actually read it (I guess I WAS being lazy :/ ). People out there want something to believe in, sometimes so desperatley they'll believe in crazy things. As I've said before, Scientology is a great example.

Now, from the beliefs themselves, there doesn't appear to be anything wrong with the religion. Its about harnessing the power inside you and caring about yourself before others. Makes sense, why not if you don't think much of the afterlife?

Now the spells...this is the part where I guess I was being a bit rude before. Now everyone has certain beliefs they're ingrained with, and I feel that I can be pretty liberal about religious beliefs but I do NOT believe in magic, I think its really as simple as that.

Now (having actually READ the first post), it is very helpful in clearing up the popular misconceptions about the religion, before this I honestly felt that Satanism WAS devil worship. Thanks for the enlightenment and sorry for being a prick.

I still don't buy it for a second though...

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At 7/28/06 01:23 PM, Unimportant wrote: To be quite frank, it sounds like a "bullshit religion" like Scientology. Harnessing the inner Satan? Please.

That's a metaphor. Satan represents man's natural urges as a carnivoruous animal.
For example, a satanist is like a cat. It does what is best for it's self, by nature.

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Argh, I would have liked to post something intelligent but I was too busy being annoyed with the bible-beaters flooding this thread.

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At 7/28/06 01:13 PM, WillPostForFood wrote:
At 7/28/06 01:05 PM, rimsta897 wrote: NO NO NO!!!!!!!!!! DO NOT LISTEN TO Lettuseclok!
did you even read it?

Yes, Duh!


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Attetion Unimportant!!! Though you my not see God but he is all around us. In other words Omnipresent.


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Im not really sure how post to this topic but I do belive you all got a point

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