I just recently noticed the trailer for World Trade Center the Movie. I have to say i wonder what the victems of other world events feel like when they see their horrific past become a movie. I can understand movies about wars, vietnam movies brought to light many disturbing facts about what the vietnam war was really like. But to make a movie about an event that happened because terrorists not only to aatack us directly but to get media coverage is just proof of hollywoods greed. Sure producers can find actors that will make you beleive that they are trying to honor the victems, but marketing tragedies is just easy money for them. It's been six years since the event happened. For god sakes at least wait a decade so you can use the excuse of trying to educate the children who were to young at the time to understand what really happned. Does anybody elese feel the way I do or are you just going to run over to the movies and drop eight dollars so you can "relive" the tragedy.
To each their own as far as the movies are concerned. Personally I think it's fucking disgusting, and although I generally think boycotting movies is childish and stupid it's the path I choose as far as these types of movies are concerned.
I must lollerskate on this matter.
First off I agree with this topic and secondly, you would think they would have better titles I mean World Trade Center, you can tell they put a lot of effort into the movies.
A lot of the rescue workers who worked on Groundzero when the towers callapsed worked on the movie.
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When I went to see a movie the other day there was a warning that a trailer for WTC was going to show before the movie. So apparantly they are taking into consideration those who are still "eh" about the subject. I'm sure tons of people will find it touching. Maybe so they don't seem so greedy, the producers should donate some of the money made from the movie to a memorial of some sort.
Oh come on, sure it's awful, but movie stars need to make a buck too ya know. Tons of movies have been made about actual tragedies. Don't like it, don't watch it. Simple.
Injured Workers rights were taken away in the 1920's by an insurance company (WCB), it's high time we got them back.
these movies are making money off of people's death when you think about. it's not right.
For the love of god, not again.
For the second time: Stop tooting your own horn, you are not god, you self serving ass. YOU DO NOT KNOW WHATS BEST FOR THE VICTIMS BETTER THEN THEIR FAMILY. If their family has no problem with it, you shouldn't either. Would you have the balls to go up to the mother of one of these victims and say "You have no clue what your son would have wanted, I do. No movie. You'll have to build that giant flight 93 memorial that was going to be built with the proceeds of the film someway else, since I'm not allowing the movie".
As for World Trade Center: I do not know if they asked the permission of the family of the victims or if they are donating to charity, but it still falls under the "theres nothing wrong with taking a 5 year old event and portraying heroic people who gave their lives to save the lives of otheres as such" catagory. This is no difference then any war movies before it.
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As i have said before, the differnece between these movies, and other movies based on tragedies is time. Movies about the holocaust by this point can argue that they are trying to educate those who were to young at the time or weren't born yet to remember the events. The whole those who don't know the past are doomed to make the same mistakes. But with the world trade center, they couldn't wait a decade before making the movie. Producers of this movie arn't noble, they just couldn't come up with an orginal movie so they ran to a recent tragedy that hasn't been overexposed in hollywood yet (you know because it's insulting to the familes) and tried to make a name for themselves.
At 7/26/06 03:52 PM, Costa-K wrote: (you know because it's insulting to the familes) and tried to make a name for themselves.
What the fuck are you talking about? Flight 93 got the permission of the families before shooting, and donated the profits to a Flight 93 memorial. The movie portray's all members (exept one) as heroic martyr's who died to save the lives of others.
It's funny how you idiots don't even watch it but feel free to attack it. I can proudly say that by donating to a charity cause, and spent 2 hours of my time honoring the legacy of the people who killed themselves to save others, and asking my friends do the same, I feel like a good american. It's almost as good as voting.
I can also say that when you blatently attack the memory and memorial of those who died, and try to stop people with their best interests in heart from building an everlasting memorial to them (both in film and in stone) without even taking the time to see such memorials or pay your respect to those who died, you are a bad American.
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movies and memorials are completely differnt, movies make t-shirts and by over exposing an event causing us to desensitize to the subject. I'm sure people used to be outraged by dead baby jokes. Also concerning getting the permission from the families, the only way i wouldn't mind if the majority of the families agreed to the film. How many families do you think they asked?
I thought United 93 was an extremely good movie as a whole, and it did not seem as driven by hollywood greed as I'm sure World Trade Center will be. The only part I don't like about these types of movies is that when they finally do come out, those god-forsaken I don't evn know how to describe em people that create those stupid conspiracy threads.
At 7/25/06 11:41 PM, -Michael- wrote: Well, what do you say about the Holocaust movies like Schindlers list and the Pianists. The Nazis were terrifying people too.
You have a good point, but those movies were made long after the tragedy itself actualy happened.
As for Flight 93, I think its way to soon. I think the producers should have waited at least a decade before releasing this movie, probably more. But thats just my opinion.
Think not of the intent, but effect. I believe the movies give us a boost of nationalism, at a crucial time. Americans are tired. The war has dragged on for years, with more of our soldiers dying each day. These movies will remind everyone why we fight, and that it's worth fighting for.
I'M AN ATHEIST LOL.
if theres explosions, if theres death, if theres muslims wearing turbans trying to blow themselves up, and if there american ppl dying.... I WILL WATCH IT!!!!!
okay so that last one was abit mean, but still
At 7/27/06 05:44 AM, Extremewookie wrote: Think not of the intent, but effect. I believe the movies give us a boost of nationalism, at a crucial time. Americans are tired. The war has dragged on for years, with more of our soldiers dying each day. These movies will remind everyone why we fight, and that it's worth fighting for.
While it's definetly true that americans need a boost in nationalism, saying that we are fighting for 9/11 is a dangerous statement. It has long been known that osama and sadam haven't been in cohoots. Also its the effect that i am somewhat worried about. Think about wwII, most kids today probably thought it would be sweet to fight in because of movies and videogames. You know are country will be in the toilet if they made a worldtrade center video game.
At 7/27/06 03:09 PM, Costa-K wrote:
While it's definetly true that americans need a boost in nationalism, saying that we are fighting for 9/11 is a dangerous statement. It has long been known that osama and sadam haven't been in cohoots. Also its the effect that i am somewhat worried about. Think about wwII, most kids today probably thought it would be sweet to fight in because of movies and videogames. You know are country will be in the toilet if they made a worldtrade center video game.
Couldn't agree more. I think people are getting the wrong idea about fighting in Iraq, because the Iraqis had nothing to do with 9/11. I agree that WWII is overglamorized too.
Oh boy, can't wait till World Trade Center the game comes out. How fast can you get out of the building!?
At 7/25/06 08:55 PM, Der_Pandar wrote: WTC looks good.
I would concur. Hell, the Times had a semi-glowing article about it.
But that's irrelevant. It's somewhat exploitative, but it certainly gives a thumbs up to the victims of the WTC attacks.
Honestly, do you think any news article would bash a movie about 9/11. The times like every critic has to be careful when bad mouthing these movies. People might get confused on whether they are bad mouthing the movie or the event.
At 7/27/06 05:44 AM, Extremewookie wrote: Think not of the intent, but effect. I believe the movies give us a boost of nationalism, at a crucial time. Americans are tired. The war has dragged on for years, with more of our soldiers dying each day. These movies will remind everyone why we fight, and that it's worth fighting for.
The effect is the intent. Its a propagandic work of fiction mean to inspire feelings of patriotism while the popularity of the War on Terror is at an all time low.
At 7/26/06 10:52 PM, Costa-K wrote: movies and memorials are completely differnt
...Are you fucking retarded? Why do people not even research the things they are debating.
The makers of flight 93 are donation profits to build a memorial to those who died on flight 93 in NYC.
Also concerning getting the permission from the families, the only way i wouldn't mind if the majority of the families agreed to the film. How many families do you think they asked?
They asked the family of EVERY victim.
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I completely agree.
Every time I see those previews I actually laugh. I didn't lose any of my family members but there was a close call with my uncle.
I just laugh at the parts that are going to be in it. "Oh my god! The buildings collapsing! Que slow motion running towards the doors". God, its disturbing. The guy under concrete writing "I <3 you" to somebody, WHO THE FUCK CAME UP WITH THIS SHIT.
Head Firefighter guy: "You guys think you can handle this"
FF1: "Yeah chief, we got dis"
FF2: "Eiiiyyy! Lets mooove!!!"
-Start flashback with Firefighter 1's wife and kid hugging-
Daughter: "I love you daddy"
Wife: "Make us proud"
You can't make a successful plot out of thousands of peoples lives. I wonder who the main protagonist is going to be. There probably isn't even going to be one. Complete garbage.
I hope the movie gets as little money as possible. HOWEVER if somehow they could donate a percentage of the earnings to the victims I would say its acceptable.
I heard that the creators of United 93 got the victims' family's blessing or something. Something saying that the families were ok with the way the movie was made and represented all involved.
At 7/25/06 08:09 PM, Costa-K wrote: It's been six years since the event happened. For god sakes at least wait a decade
So basically you're complaining that they released the movie four years too early?
Ooooookay then. That isn't arbitrary at all.
At 7/29/06 02:47 PM, Idocreating wrote: I heard that the creators of United 93 got the victims' family's blessing or something. Something saying that the families were ok with the way the movie was made and represented all involved.
Yes, they did. I saw the movie (and seem to be the only one who did in this thread >=/ ) and it was wonderfull. It turned the passangers into heroes, and the terrorists into what they where: average, moral, religiouse people who had been hopelessly misguided into doing a terrible thing they thought was right.
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At 7/29/06 01:19 AM, ScrunchMuppet wrote:
. Its a propagandic work of fiction
Not with THIS director! Have you read anything about him?!
United 93... World Trade Center...
I don't know if i'm going off topic but, you think this is a bad idea of making movies like this? Think about in the next few years if they decided to make movies like, "The Disappearence of Natallie Holloway" or "Andrea Yates: The Untold Story." It'll probably be on Lifetime but not in the theatre I hope.
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