my thought on time travels

[TheFinalHazard]

Ok, recently I have begun thinking upon time travel's do's and don'ts. Here's what i got.

A. If it didn't already happen, don't do it. you will create a paradox where they did die. OR...

B. You can't kill yourself in the past no matter how hard you try. why? Cause in the event of your time passing the it would have already happened but if it had already happened then maybe. But yea. Die in the past and you'd never have come to the future which in trn makes you live to goto the future casing you to go into a time loop.

C.Silent hill is the only game scary enough to time travel.

D.Can anyone help me wth this? Cause ya know, it invlves looping time. Ok, if you go back in time, then it should have already happened. does that mean that time travel is actually a passing of dimensions? Cause think- is there 1 main universe and an infinite amount branching off?

E.Only do things if they've already happened. Ya know, bet mankind killed te dinosaurs,
leaving me this closing statement-MANKIND killed the dinos.

F. I originally thought that there is no future. Tha we are NOT destined to walk a line. but think then- time travel wouldn't be possible! You have to have a future to go back and complete a loop!

Well, what does everyone think? And this is with a little study on this stuff.

[Jovatov]

Traveling to the past is nonsense. It just can't be done.

We travel time at a speed of 1, no more, no less, that's it.

[Biff]

They say if you ever found a way to go faster then the speed of light you would go back in time I think E=MC2 has something to do with it. Freaky if you think about it

[DashDingo]

The only way to travel through time is by going forward in time. You can't go backwards.

[Sarah-Rawr]

You ever consider that there is no such thing as time. That it is simply a restraint which us, humanity, has put on ourselves. Like that is how far we have allowed our minds to see. If you look at everything as a loop, everything has already happened and everything will already be happening. If that is true, if our existence is really one big circle, then there really is no life or death. It is a neverending stream, which we simply haven't wholly comprehended yet.

This also goes in tie with the concept of a parallel universe. The possibility there are many different "circles", lives which we do not lead in this existence of the present, but are happening in some other dimension. Choices we never made, and choices we did make. Adjustments which impact our lives dramatically without us even realizing it.

Yeah, i'll stop rambling there, since i'm kind of making this up as I go along anyway.

[thegreatmonkey]

I leave Time Travelling to Marty McFly and that guy on "LIfe on Mars". We have absolutely not proof or idea of what happens or how we travel through time: it just makes for good TV.

fin

[TheFinalHazard]

i still pwn u

[KungFuCow]

Time travel is absolutely impossible due to the Butterfly Effect. END OF DISCUSSION. >:(

And to the creator of the topic, wow. You actually think man killed the dino's? LOL >:)

[TheBigLemon]

I usually have long long long conversations with people on the time-travel issue.

My point is, that if you travel back in time, and try to do something (i.e. stop you from being born, try to kill someone, etc.), since it was in the past, it already happend. That means that in the past, you were there. So if you tried to change history, something, some unseen force, would stop you.

Ok, an example. Say I went back in time to stop the assasination of Lincoln. I would go back in time(which is ludicrus anyways)and find John Wilkes Booth and try to stop him from killing Lincoln. Well, since it already happend, I couldn't stop it. Because it had ahppend while I was in the present, I was also in the past. Like, I would still be in the year 2006, but also the year 1865. So in the year 1865, I try to stop Booth from shooting Lincoln. But since the whole chain of events had already taken place, I couldn't.

It's confusing I know, but it makes sense if you think hard enough about it.

[Randomini]

A. A new universe would bud off ours and be absorbed by the implosion caused. This is because you need a lot of power to time travel.

B. By doing this you will create a naked singularity, which may be able to warp the universe chaotically and randomly.

C. I Agree.

D. There are thousands of universed, but only one can exist in a concurrent timezone.

E. Mankind did not kill dinosaurs; the smart dinosaurs travelled forward in time and killed us... in the future!

F. Time is like a liquid; it flows along, pushing us. But we can resist and even break back through time. But it would require an object to go at faster than 3 times the speed of light to go back in time.

I know, I'm a nerd. Call me a nerd.

[ChEaP-cRaCk]

were u smoking when u posted this???

[TheBigLemon]

At 7/25/06 02:48 AM, ChEaP_cRaCk wrote: were u smoking when u posted this???

Erm...who was that directed at?

[ChEaP-cRaCk]

the guy who made this topic

[Psyreaper]

At 7/25/06 01:41 AM, Biff777 wrote: I think E=MC2 has something to do with it. Freaky if you think about it

E=mc2 is energy=mass something something. yay im clever :P

einstein did come up with the theory that the faster you travel, the slower time passes so if you were to travel faster than the speed of light (which in theory is impossible) that time would travel backwards until you slowed down. so if it were possible to travel faster than the speed of light backwards time travel would be possible.

[TheBigLemon]

At 7/25/06 02:52 AM, ChEaP_cRaCk wrote: the guy who made this topic

Oh ok. Tons of folks have asked me that while I was trying to explain my theory to them.

Also, please use the 'Reply With Quote' button form now on so that we know who you are talking about. It helps a lot ^_^

[ChEaP-cRaCk]

At 7/25/06 02:54 AM, TheBigLemon wrote:

At 7/25/06 02:52 AM, ChEaP_cRaCk wrote: the guy who made this topic

Oh ok. Tons of folks have asked me that while I was trying to explain my theory to them.

Also, please use the 'Reply With Quote' button form now on so that we know who you are talking about. It helps a lot ^_^

right.... im new to this shit

[TheBigLemon]

At 7/25/06 02:56 AM, ChEaP_cRaCk wrote: right.... im new to this shit

I noticed. Just trying to lend a helpful hand.

[Sarah-Rawr]

At 7/25/06 02:51 AM, TheBigLemon wrote: Erm...who was that directed at?

*Eats the lemon.*

That was directed to you.

[ChEaP-cRaCk]

At 7/25/06 03:01 AM, Sarah_Rawr wrote:

At 7/25/06 02:51 AM, TheBigLemon wrote: Erm...who was that directed at?

*Eats the lemon.*

That was directed to you.

haha

[Kinspin]

Everytime I hear about time travel, I want to watch Donnie Darko.

[KungFuCow]

At 7/25/06 02:28 AM, TheBigLemon wrote: It's confusing I know, but it makes sense if you think hard enough about it.

Not confusing at all, I had thought of that theory myself before. And it would be correct if time travel is possible, but it is not.

[TheBigLemon]

At 7/25/06 03:24 AM, KungFuCow wrote:

At 7/25/06 02:28 AM, TheBigLemon wrote: It's confusing I know, but it makes sense if you think hard enough about it.

Not confusing at all, I had thought of that theory myself before. And it would be correct if time travel is possible, but it is not.

I'm glad someone gets it. Usually when I discuss it people say stuff like "No, because if I shot him he'd die!" or something.

But, in my opinion if say I shot a bulletin right at George Bush Senior when he was born, either someone would dive in front of the bullet, my gun wouldn't work, I'd miss, or maybe the bullet would disappear all together just because he wasn't supposed to die at that moment.

[StarF68]

At 7/25/06 02:13 AM, KungFuCow wrote: Time travel is absolutely impossible due to the Butterfly Effect. END OF DISCUSSION. >:(

Wow, I read that and I must say, it's interesting.

But there's one thing that bothers me, while it all pretty much makes solid sense, why should I care? Why should I care that if my actions change the weather and it makes these massive changes that the time line will be changes? That my typing makes a hurricane in the future? Why should I care?

Whether the future is a static future or an unpredictable variable I'm still here in the first place, and I'm just going to live my life, and whatever happens happens, whether it was predicted by a God or not.

If the future is already predicted then it must be impossible to see it as well, because then you would be given the choice to change it (Much like in Donnie Darko when he was talking to the science teacher about the... The things coming out of peoples chests and seeing where they would go).

However there is a concept of traveling back in time that does logically work...

I figure that if there was any way to go back in time, the only way that would make ANY logical sense, would be to go back to a time where you were still alive, without making a duplicate of yourself. Meaning... You go back in time, litterally, you don't go back into another time, you litterally make everything go back in time.

But that concept is ridiculous because it means that you don't go back in time, EVERYTHING does, meaning everything in the universe as well, since it all affects the weather and such according to the butterfly effect.

It does make sense, because if you go back to another point in your life, and change the weather, while it would change the future, it doesn't mean that it's a paradox. It's only a paradox if you're not born, but assuming you're going back to another point in your life, and assuming you're taking EVERYTHING back, you can't even go back to a point where you weren't existant, therefore making it logical.

It's a thinker, but in the end it doesn't even really matter. :O

At 7/25/06 03:16 AM, Kinxpins wrote: Everytime I hear about time travel, I want to watch Donnie Darko.

That was my initial thought as well.

[supyohos123]

I have many thoughts on this issue too! I heard that time happens in one instantaneous moment when viewed from the highest dimension. It was said by some psychic from Georgia. I believe the multiple universe theory though. Every decision we make can create a universe that abides by our decision. If this is true, the number of the universes in this area of existence is incalculable to humans. But it at least tell us that the apocalypse is preventable.

The never-ending loop theory pisses me off. Nobody wants to have their life predetermined for them. I want to make my own decisions knowing that I have the capability to be anything I choose. I wouldn't be the only one pissed off! I grew up learning in school that the future is open up to many possibilities. I can choose who I want to be. To prove this theory is true, would shatter these beliefs. I would be happy to know that man just focuses on the present and future instead of how to get to the future and past at a faster pace.

[RobbyBlaze]

At 7/25/06 01:24 AM, TheFinalHazard wrote: C.Silent hill is the only game scary enough to time travel.

What the fuck? I don't get it.

[RageOfOrder]

As most people are catching on, black holes are not some paranormal anomaly... They are simply a dense collection of mass, which has been compressed so densely that light can not pass through it, or reflect off of it since the gravity pulls it all in... A black hole is basically a gravity well, and at the center of it is simply the most dense materials in the universe...

However, thanks to Mr. Einstein over here, many are led to believe that gravity effects time... Thanks to the existence of black holes, this is impossible, and here's why...

Scientists recently believed they "proved" Einstein's theory by sending an atomic clock into high orbit, and compare it's time to that of an atomic clock on earth... They noticed that the clock in high orbit progressed faster than the one on earth, this led them to believe that gravity slows down time, but they did not take into account how gravity effects atomic clocks... It is obvious that time would seem to progress quicker in space, as without gravity things would tend to have less gravitational resistance, and would last longer. Human organs would break down slower... Many believe that due to this "discovery", time within a black hole would be slowed down to a crawl. So one day on earth would be like 100 years inside the black hole... There is a major problem with this theory... Imagine if you will, a trillion years from now, our entire galaxy and then some has come together by it's own gravitational force, creating a massive black hole... in the center of this black hole, time would literally stop due to the massive amounts of gravity... Shortly after this, time would reverse one infinitesimal amount of a second backwards... That means that just before this happens, the laws of thermodynamics will be broken, as matter within the black hole is sent back in time, and appears in a time that matter did not before. In that split second, the entire mass of the black hole can pass backward into time, causing the black hole to double in mass, and then double again, and again... This would simultaneous increase the amount that time is slowed down, taking time farther and farther into the negative speed... And so within less than an instant, the entire universe would be filled with this self-spawning mass...

But this is in the future right? So it doesn't matter to us right? Wrong... because this black hole implosion/explosion would not only destroy the universe of the future, but if this gravity-time connection is true, it would also continue to go backward in time, and within the same instant it would continue backward till the beginning of time, making our existence impossible....

This further proves my theory that time can not exist... Life as we know it, can not co-exist with time.

[supyohos123]

I forgot to add this. Time travel would seem possible with the never-ending loop theory.

[ChrismanPSP]

At 7/25/06 01:47 AM, thegreatmonkey wrote: I leave Time Travelling to Marty McFly

fin

Ohh, the 80's special effects...

[StarF68]

At 7/25/06 03:33 AM, RageOfOrder wrote: This further proves my theory that time can not exist... Life as we know it, can not co-exist with time.

God damn, that was not only confusing, but scary.

Anyways, that last line is a bit weird though. I've thought about time and it's "existance" and such, but you can't seriously say time can't exist. That's insane!

Maybe some aspects of time cannot exist, but some sort of IDEA of time can. If time can't co-exist with life then what are we doing, standing still? Progressing without progression? Maybe "time" can't exist but our progression has to. Our movements exist, therefore some sort of progression into some sort of "future" must exist.

[TheBigLemon]

At 7/25/06 03:34 AM, supyohos123 wrote: I forgot to add this. Time travel would seem possible with the never-ending loop theory.

Yes, but that only gurhter proves my theory. If time were a loop that kept repeating itself, than it could never ever be changed. If you went back in time, then you have done it millions upon millions of times already.

Also, on the loop theory, if time were a loop, one could go so far into the furture they are in the past, and so far into the past that they are in the future, right?