Iraq

[Slizor]

Yes, another topic on it! I've decided to take a much broader view than the one Washington wants to lead everyone down. Was the original resolution right? By this I mean should Iraq be disarmed of WMDs in the first place?

I can see no reason why Iraq, on their own, should be disarmed of WMDs.

[AukeSam]

At 2/23/03 08:42 AM, Slizor wrote: Yes, another topic on it! I've decided to take a much broader view than the one Washington wants to lead everyone down. Was the original resolution right? By this I mean should Iraq be disarmed of WMDs in the first place?

I can see no reason why Iraq, on their own, should be disarmed of WMDs.

Neither can I! That's the point I also try to make in the topic "Why not search the USA", but it's not really working, so I think I'll let that one for what it is and join here! (If you don't mind a dickhead in your replie-list).

Why should Iraq and ONLY Iraq be disarmed? Why is the US only going for Iraq???

This is the answer:

[AukeSam]

Maybe I've posted that image too many times...
But on the other hand: It can't be said anough times!

So:

[Crowy]

At 2/23/03 08:42 AM, Slizor wrote: Yes, another topic on it! I've decided to take a much broader view than the one Washington wants to lead everyone down. Was the original resolution right? By this I mean should Iraq be disarmed of WMDs in the first place?

I can see no reason why Iraq, on their own, should be disarmed of WMDs.

Umm, yes I see 5000 dead kurdish reasons to disarm Iraq. I've seen alot of disturbing pictures in my time but green children with blood streaming from there eyes tops them all. Its hippies like you who let more people be killed.

[Crowy]

Neither can I! That's the point I also try to make in the topic "Why not search the USA"

Well buddy, I've been going over my history and well gosh darn it, i cant find anywhere that says the Us has sadistically murdered 5000 of its own citizens.

THAT is why we should search the USA.

[swayside]

that's "president cowboy" to you.

america is not known for killing it's own people. and don't give me any economic crap about it. sadaam is known for killing his own people.

also, america is not known to use weapons frivilously. not agianst our own people, and not against civilians in other countries. sadaam would (and will if we back off) use any kind of weapon he has against the rest of the world. he has no respect for innocent life.

sadaam must be taken out of power for the sake of his poeple, and iraq must be disarmed of all weapons of mass destruction for the sake of the world.

[Slizor]

http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0131-08.htm

also, america is not known to use weapons frivilously.

You've had 21 wars in the past 50 years!

not agianst our own people, and not against civilians in other countries.

Vietnam.

sadaam would (and will if we back off) use any kind of weapon he has against the rest of the world.

You agree then, that Saddam has no WMDs, because if he did, he'd use them, no?

sadaam must be taken out of power for the sake of his poeple

And who would be put in his place?

[swayside]

At 2/23/03 09:56 AM, Slizor wrote: http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0131-08.htm

also, america is not known to use weapons frivilously.

You've had 21 wars in the past 50 years!

forst of all, "you"? if that's me, then who are you?

not agianst our own people, and not against civilians in other countries.

Vietnam.

america has never intentionally killed civilians of other coutries. the vietnam war was to beat back communism.

sadaam would (and will if we back off) use any kind of weapon he has against the rest of the world.

You agree then, that Saddam has no WMDs, because if he did, he'd use them, no?

you moron. do you think he'd do such a thing under the current scruteny of the world?

sadaam must be taken out of power for the sake of his poeple

And who would be put in his place?

don't tell me that you believe the yin yang removal of evil thing. just because you remove one evil, doesn't mean you leave a whole that will inevitably be filled with a greater evil.

if that wasn't what you meant, good. i'll leave that for those that think that way.

i say screw the spread of democracy. give them a republic.

[NEMESiSZ]

Your image, while slightly clever, reamins low quality.

[bumcheekcity]

also, america is not known to use weapons frivilously.

You've had 21 wars in the past 50 years!

forst of all, "you"? if that's me, then who are you?

He meant You = America as a Country and you know he did.

not agianst our own people, and not against civilians in other countries.

Vietnam.

America has never intentionally killed civilians of other coutries. the vietnam war was to beat back communism.

Why did America want to beat back communism? It is not an oppressive regime, quite the opposite in fact.

sadaam must be taken out of power for the sake of his poeple

And who would be put in his place?

An American Puppet.

[Slizor]

not agianst our own people, and not against civilians in other countries.

Vietnam.

america has never intentionally killed civilians of other coutries. the vietnam war was to beat back communism.

The (civilian)Kurds were not intentionally targeted and a case could be made for intentional targetting of civilians.

sadaam would (and will if we back off) use any kind of weapon he has against the rest of the world.

You agree then, that Saddam has no WMDs, because if he did, he'd use them, no?

you moron. do you think he'd do such a thing under the current scruteny of the world?

So why didn't he attack between 1998 and now?

sadaam must be taken out of power for the sake of his poeple

And who would be put in his place?

don't tell me that you believe the yin yang removal of evil thing. just because you remove one evil, doesn't mean you leave a whole that will inevitably be filled with a greater evil.

Of course not, although it probably will.

[Alakazam]

At 2/23/03 08:42 AM, Slizor wrote:

I can see no reason why Iraq, on their own, should be disarmed of WMDs. :

So you see no reason why Iraq should be allowed to disarm by themselves? LOL!

[Alakazam]

At 2/23/03 01:50 PM, An idiot wrote:

The (civilian)Kurds were not intentionally targeted :

Idiot. Saddam used helicopters to kill civilians after the Gulf War when they revolted.

Lalalala, come up with a another topic Terry.

[NEMESiSZ]

Alakazam: 1 Asshole: 0

Seriously, how many people need to tell you you're wrong before you shut the fuck up?

[Alakazam]

At 2/23/03 03:13 PM, NEMESiSZ wrote: Alakazam: 1 Asshole: 0

Seriously, how many people need to tell you you're wrong before you shut the fuck up? :

Oh, no one can actually tell Terry to quit his crap. Jesus could come back in the rapture today and tell him the divine truth that he is an idiot but he would refuse to listen...because he has to...he thinks he is a good debater.

Pray to god if you actually want to read the language debate. Terry was swamped in his own feces. You can read my final thoughts if you want:

http://www.geocities.com/obiwannshinobi/languagedebatefin.html

[NEMESiSZ]

These guys have really just become parodies of themselves lately...

[Alakazam]

At 2/23/03 03:21 PM, NEMESiSZ wrote: These guys have really just become parodies of themselves lately... :

You only know the half of it. Seriously, do you find all these idiot topics about Iraq to just be boring? Can people talk about something else, or do they have to convince themselves by posting the same crap over and over?

[NEMESiSZ]

They figure if they say things enough maybe they can convince themselves they're right, and everyone doesn't make fun of them at recess.

[Slizor]

The (civilian)Kurds were not intentionally targeted :

Idiot. Saddam used helicopters to kill civilians after the Gulf War when they revolted.

We were talking about 1988, not 1991.

[Slizor]

Alakazam: 1 Asshole: 0

Seriously, how many people need to tell you you're wrong before you shut the fuck up?

How many times do you have to be wrong before you shut the fuck up?

Both of you, shut the fuck up. You are not addressing the topic and instead are trying to swamp it with manufactured victories and complete shit. If you want to debate, debate. If you want to have a flame war for the sake of your ego, get the fuck out of here, find somewhere else to go.

[Valar]

Who the fuck created Saddam Hussein's power in order to fight Iran????

And what the fuck have Iraq done for 12 years??? - jack shit

I call this war a war of hypocrisy.....For a country who has spent $19 trillion on weaponary since WW2, to say Iraq may have "weapons of mass destruction" is just slightly taking the piss....

If you really want to get rid of evil dictators, go and take out Zimbabwe's.

Oh but then Zimbabwe does'nt have the worlds second largest oil reserves, and a long history with the Bush family to warrant an attack from America.

[NEMESiSZ]

If you don't like the USA get the fuck out and go live in a sand shack.

[VasIndustries]

At 2/23/03 04:06 PM, NEMESiSZ wrote: If you don't like the USA get the fuck out and go live in a sand shack.

This sentiment is entirely lacking. I'm so sick of people like you twisting Democracy into more of a dictator state of fight with us or get out. If the public doesn't like what the president says, they can challenge him. Its something America instituted called checks and balances. Without it, it'd just be a dictatorship since the bureaucrats already bend toward the executive office.

Sampled from the Declaration of Independance:
"Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government"

[Valar]

Er....thankfully i've never been to the Divided States of America....the place were clowns like you stand up and put their hands on their hearts when star spangled is blured out! or that every 200 yards a building has to have an American flag on it...I mean if you was'nt so self obsessed, you might forget who you are right??....you need those flags everywhere to remember that you are americans and not just another legacy of Britain.

Where the corruption and hypocrisy is laughable....but even more laughable are the half wits you choose to be your presidents. Look at Reagan and Bush...need i say more?

[NEMESiSZ]

The USA still has a higher per capita GDP than whatever shithole you live in, so whether you like it or not, we're better than you.

[Valar]

oh well thats ok then....

do you know where you got your money from???...you got it from WW1 and WW2 war debts....it was very nice of you to just sit there for most of both world wars and decide to only help your allies if you got huge intrest rates back.

Its no coincedence that America only became the worlds super power during Europe's destruction.
You only joined in the end of WW1 because you realized that if Britain lost to Germany, Britain would'nt be able to pay you back the debts.

[NEMESiSZ]

Money is money, power is power. The USA wins, as usual.

[RoboTripper]

At 2/23/03 10:12 AM, swayside wrote:

At 2/23/03 09:56 AM, Slizor wrote:

not agianst our own people, and not against civilians in other countries.

Vietnam.

america has never intentionally killed civilians of other coutries. the vietnam war was to beat back communism.

You have ignored the response. He was not asking what the purpose of the Vietnam War was. He was asking about America intentionally killing civilians - I don't know if the bombing of every North Vietnamese major city to the ground was "intentionally" killing civilians, but that was who was in the cities.

sadaam would (and will if we back off) use any kind of weapon he has against the rest of the world.

You agree then, that Saddam has no WMDs, because if he did, he'd use them, no?

you moron. do you think he'd do such a thing under the current scruteny of the world?

WELL WELL! So you admit he will behave under the current scrutiny of the world. Then why be in such a rush to war? Why not take some time and let the inspectors and recently implemented U-2 spyplanes do their job?

sadaam must be taken out of power for the sake of his poeple

And who would be put in his place?

don't tell me that you believe the yin yang removal of evil thing. just because you remove one evil, doesn't mean you leave a whole that will inevitably be filled with a greater evil.

if that wasn't what you meant, good. i'll leave that for those that think that way.

i say screw the spread of democracy. give them a

republic.

Lets put in another puppet like Karzai, Iraq will be for all purposes our 52nd state.

[Conzzz]

This is to Alakazam

Your views on Terry are a testimony to all things good and true in this world. Your insult "swamped in his own feaces" was a true insult and not a hollow forwarding by some of the more..... yes stupid does it nicely. I agree with your stance on the war and your view on the the stupid fucking left wing greenie that makes this world the cess pool that it is.

From Crowy and Conzzz

[DarknessIncarnate]

At 2/23/03 09:12 AM, Crowy wrote:

I can see no reason why Iraq, on their own, should be disarmed of WMDs.

Umm, yes I see 5000 dead kurdish reasons to disarm Iraq. I've seen alot of disturbing pictures in my time but green children with blood streaming from there eyes tops them all. Its hippies like you who let more people be killed.

You idiot, daddy bush supported the kurd murdering!