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A Mind-Boggling Question 2003-02-23 02:19:48 Reply

Creation or evolution? Which one is true?

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Response to A Mind-Boggling Question 2003-02-23 02:21:00 Reply

Evolution, no arguement.


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Response to A Mind-Boggling Question 2003-02-23 02:22:27 Reply

Hmm...*plays devils advocate*...Then why were 6 billion humans randomly placed on this Earth? For no reason? Creation would justify that answer,God wants to control his people through the fate he planned for them...

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Response to A Mind-Boggling Question 2003-02-23 02:24:47 Reply

I think the two walk hand in hand: For instance, the general creationist theory does not say that god decided things would never change. Basic evolutionist theory, although it outlines how things may have changed over time, does not argue agaist the idea that everything was created by something or someone else.

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Response to A Mind-Boggling Question 2003-02-23 02:25:23 Reply

It's really just a matter of if you are religious or agnostic...

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Response to A Mind-Boggling Question 2003-02-23 02:26:19 Reply

How about BOTH!


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Response to A Mind-Boggling Question 2003-02-23 02:26:44 Reply

niether one is true, we sprout out of the ground

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Response to A Mind-Boggling Question 2003-02-23 02:27:28 Reply

But according to creation...Things have not changed...We are the physicaly the same as Adam and Eve and all that...We are just mentaly differant...I dont know if mentality is part of evolution though...

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Response to A Mind-Boggling Question 2003-02-23 02:29:46 Reply

"niether one is true, we sprout out of the ground"

That's definitely the most interesting theory I've ever seen.

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Response to A Mind-Boggling Question 2003-02-23 02:32:22 Reply

At 2/23/03 02:29 AM, Kadris wrote: "niether one is true, we sprout out of the ground"

That's definitely the most interesting theory I've ever seen.

I was gonan say we came out of rhinos asses but that's just silly

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Response to A Mind-Boggling Question 2003-02-23 02:33:20 Reply

At 2/23/03 02:22 AM, SparkyCS3 wrote: Hmm...*plays devils advocate*...Then why were 6 billion humans randomly placed on this Earth?

What the fuck does that mean?


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Response to A Mind-Boggling Question 2003-02-23 02:35:06 Reply

I was gonan say we came out of rhinos asses but that's just silly

That sounds like Ace Ventura philosophy to me......

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Response to A Mind-Boggling Question 2003-02-23 02:35:26 Reply

Jeez, why answer another DAMN religion question like this?

What the hell are you expecting? People do agree with you? Yeah right.

I tend not take any religion seriously. Religion, for the most part, is faith...that's F-A-I-T-H fucker. That means that...HELLO...there is no concrete evidence that it actually exists.

And even if we WERE created, why do you use terms such as Adam and Eve, and Jesus? Wh's to say that is our GOD? What about all the OTHER on the planet, eh? Or do you thik that the only religion on Earth is CHRISTIANITY? Well you may think that christianity is your correct religion, but that doesn't mean it is EVERYONE else's. Shame on you for being so presumptuous, Dick.

Basically, I think evolution is the way to go. At least science has proof to back up anything, from why the plates in the Earth move to why water does what it does through Osmosis.

Perhaps, you should take your nose outta the good Book, and place it in a SCIENCE book. I know you can't avoid it, what with being in school in all.

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Response to A Mind-Boggling Question 2003-02-23 02:36:39 Reply

"...and crawling on the planet's face,
some insect called the human race."
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Response to A Mind-Boggling Question 2003-02-23 02:37:49 Reply

My mistake, you're actually 33, or what your profile says. The question itself sounded infantile so...

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Response to A Mind-Boggling Question 2003-02-23 02:37:50 Reply

A little bit from column a and a little bit from column b.

I can't make myself believe that everything came about by accident, but evolution has been well documented. Things change to adapt.

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Response to A Mind-Boggling Question 2003-02-23 02:40:38 Reply

At 2/23/03 02:24 AM, Kadris wrote: I think the two walk hand in hand: For instance, the general creationist theory does not say that god decided things would never change. Basic evolutionist theory, although it outlines how things may have changed over time, does not argue agaist the idea that everything was created by something or someone else.

yes! that is exactley what i believe oy u are one of the first people that i have found that beleive similar to what i do about the whole issue!

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Response to A Mind-Boggling Question 2003-02-23 02:41:12 Reply

At 2/23/03 02:35 AM, Detesticus wrote: Jeez, why answer another DAMN religion question like this?

get a grip man, don't lose it over such a little thing

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Response to A Mind-Boggling Question 2003-02-23 02:43:25 Reply

yes! that is exactley what i believe oy u are one of the first people that i have found that beleive similar to what i do about the whole issue!

suppose you're gonna marry im now eh?

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Response to A Mind-Boggling Question 2003-02-23 02:47:44 Reply

At 2/23/03 02:35 AM, Detesticus wrote: Jeez, why answer another DAMN religion question like this?

What the hell are you expecting? People do agree with you? Yeah right.

I tend not take any religion seriously. Religion, for the most part, is faith...that's F-A-I-T-H fucker. That means that...HELLO...there is no concrete evidence that it actually exists.

That is the simple truth. In most of the arguments I've been in with people over Creationism / Evolutionism, the overly religious debaters present their faith as fact. oh, wait...NO.

I agree with Kevin Smith....."It's better to have ideas. Ideas you can change....changing a belief, now that's hard."

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Response to A Mind-Boggling Question 2003-02-23 02:50:22 Reply

At 2/23/03 02:35 AM, Detesticus wrote:
And even if we WERE created, why do you use terms such as Adam and Eve, and Jesus? Wh's to say that is our GOD? What about all the OTHER on the planet, eh? Or do you thik that the only religion on Earth is CHRISTIANITY? Well you may think that christianity is your correct religion, but that doesn't mean it is EVERYONE else's. Shame on you for being so presumptuous, Dick.

Let's examine this quote and then examine what was implied in what I said...
1. Adam and Eve were an EXAMPLE of a story in which God put humans on Earth, I never said it was the only story.
2. I did not utter the word "Jesus"
3. WTF? It has come to my attention that you don't know what "God" means! All religions have gods, a god is just a higher being, and when I said "God", I did not say "My God" dipshit.
4. I never said I was big into Christianity...I was playing "Devils advocate" to stir up a debate...
5. Dont be so presumptuous about what other people say, dumbass...

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Response to A Mind-Boggling Question 2003-02-23 02:52:03 Reply

Evolution, but not necessarily in the way that everyone thinks of evolution. I just know it ain't creation.

POOF! "and let there be people...and it was good", or something


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Response to A Mind-Boggling Question 2003-02-23 02:57:49 Reply

This is a hard question because there isn't really an "In the middle"...If you believe a bit of creation and a bit of evolution then you have nothing...You cant incorperate strange almost magical events into evolution because evolution is a theory that lifeforms were left alone to evolve by themselves...

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Response to A Mind-Boggling Question 2003-02-23 03:00:42 Reply

At 2/23/03 02:43 AM, Mopsicle wrote:
yes! that is exactley what i believe oy u are one of the first people that i have found that beleive similar to what i do about the whole issue!
suppose you're gonna marry im now eh?

Of course he is. Most people et married when they can agree on how the world began. duh....

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Response to A Mind-Boggling Question 2003-02-23 03:05:12 Reply

I personaly believe in evolution though, creation is too far-fetched and I'm definately not devout...

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Response to A Mind-Boggling Question 2003-02-23 03:30:20 Reply

At 2/23/03 02:57 AM, SparkyCS3 wrote: You cant incorperate strange almost magical events into evolution because evolution is a theory that lifeforms were left alone to evolve by themselves...

Going by this explanation, "being left alone"..... It doesn't argue against life being created by something else, it just argues against meddling in the progression of life. Likewise, creationism does not state that all life was meant to stay exactly the same as it always was. I have yet to see a backed-up argument against the idea of everything being created by another force or being with the intent of letting it take a "natural" course after that.

That's my middle ground and I'm sticking to it.

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Response to A Mind-Boggling Question 2003-02-23 05:52:41 Reply

We may have gone through several epochs of human history and not know it. Very little used to be written down, thousands of years ago, and some writings have been supressed by the Church. Books and scrolls have been destroyed - the library at Alexandria, libraries of various Chinese emperors. There is the distinct possibility we have been visited from other places, dimensions. Any high technology would appear to be magic to any aboriginal culture. So who's to say where we came from, specifically? We have created chickens without feathers and plants that glow in the dark. Some highly evolved race could have been tinkering with our ancestors...and then those little bastards escaped from the testing facility..." Garden of Eden " indeed...

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Response to A Mind-Boggling Question 2003-02-23 06:16:11 Reply

*Laughs at the ridiculously overdone topic stemming back to the reigion threads*

Look, believing in creationism is the same this as saying "I believe a big invisible man in the sky created me, watches over all my dead pets and relatives, and is apparently, even though he/she/it is all powerful, decides to cause suffering anyway, in addition to creating whole schools of thought that exist as a form of mind control and bigotry, alienating people from several walks of life incuding but not limited to: Homosexuals, Native Americans, The Incas, The Aztecs, Indians (From India), Africans, African Americans, anybody who has sex before marraige, and anybody who's religion differs from yours."

Pah! *Scoffs*

Religion. What a great thing.

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Response to A Mind-Boggling Question 2003-02-23 06:35:36 Reply

If everyone stoped believing in god, then there would be any way to know of god...everyone for now one would go to hell, i don't think that....if there as a god, he'll let that happen. God didn't create humans, humans created god. and evolution sounds good anyways

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Response to A Mind-Boggling Question 2003-02-23 06:42:27 Reply

God is a thing, we created, to draw the line between whats right and whats wrong. To blame, if anything goes wrong on something else. something that can never be but on trial, or go to jail for something bad. It's to deverte attention from something that a person did, to a hight being. ex. Why did God make ciggertes if they kill people. lol. God didn't create ciggerettes, some dude back in the old days did that. Blame him for all the people dieing, not an imaginary friend.