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At 7/22/06 01:09 AM, BLOODY-VIRGIN-PUSSY wrote: thats what she gets payed the big bucks for.

Something tells me the 'big bucks' will be under her parents' control...At least till she's an adult...

Ok, I'm probably going to get flamed for this, but I'll say it anyway.

It's a movie.

Dakota Fanning is not ACTUALLY being raped. Other movies have had things like this in them, so this isn't something new to Hollywood. This isn't some "new low". Most of you love those blood pouring gore fests, right? Why are those more socially acceptable? Is it better to be a mass murderer than to rape a child?

I don't know a lot about this movie. It looks like it could be one of those "you can get through it if you try" types. If that's the case, I think the rape scene might be neccesary. There is no better way to convey a message than to show it directly.

So all in all, this is not a horrible thing. This could show people that things like this REALLY HAPPEN in real life. Because as much as you want to lie to yourself, they do. Children are abused. People get raped.

It doesn't change if no one knows it happening.

At 7/22/06 01:09 AM, BLOODY-VIRGIN-PUSSY wrote: thats what she gets payed the big bucks for. i wonder what kind of reseach she will have to do in order to play this roll...

Even though she's a professional actress, she's still a 12 year-old actress. Her mom is the one who controls her money. And thanks to her mom, she'll be washed-up & burned-out before she gets old enough to vote!

At 7/22/06 01:14 AM, Monocrom wrote: Even though she's a professional actress, she's still a 12 year-old actress. Her mom is the one who controls her money. And thanks to her mom, she'll be washed-up & burned-out before she gets old enough to vote!

Amen

At 7/22/06 01:08 AM, Monocrom wrote: As long as she doesn't go out to meet an on-line predator, but what kind of joke of a mom would agree to let her 12 year-old get raped on-screen?!

It's not like she's actually being raped, just like those people who get killed in movies aren't actually dead, it's called "acting".

At 7/22/06 01:13 AM, Final217 wrote: So all in all, this is not a horrible thing. This could show people that things like this REALLY HAPPEN in real life. Because as much as you want to lie to yourself, they do. Children are abused. People get raped.

It doesn't change if no one knows it happening.

We're not disgusted because we don't want to know it's not happening. The difference between gore and underage rape is that nobody wants to see the latter but they make it anyway. Another difference is that the gore's fake, her nudity will be real regardless whether you see it on screen or not. If I decide who wons oscars I would deliberately not give her the oscar to show that going "edgy" to get the oscar doesn't work.

At 7/22/06 01:13 AM, Final217 wrote: It's a movie.

ok?

Dakota Fanning is not ACTUALLY being raped.

I'll give you some money...

You're gonna play as a guy that gets rapped... I'll use camera tricks to make you look like you're actually sucking my penis...YOU WON'T REALLY SUCK IT...Because it will be a shot from the back, but it will look like as I was making you suck my penis while you get raped from behind by another guy...

What do you think your friends, family and others will say when they see it?

What would you tell them? "Hey! It;s just a movie...I wasn't really raped. I DID IT FOR THE MONEY!"

At 7/22/06 01:19 AM, Ozcar wrote: What would you tell them? "Hey! It;s just a movie...I wasn't really raped. I DID IT FOR THE MONEY!"

Yes.

The movie is not a pornography movie, so anyone with a half of brain would not think that he was actually raped.

What a stupid argument.

At 7/22/06 01:19 AM, HeinousDude wrote: We're not disgusted because we don't want to know it's not happening. The difference between gore and underage rape is that nobody wants to see the latter but they make it anyway. Another difference is that the gore's fake, her nudity will be real regardless whether you see it on screen or not. If I decide who wons oscars I would deliberately not give her the oscar to show that going "edgy" to get the oscar doesn't work.

Quoted for great justice.

I agree with HeinousDude...

Or what? will the use a 'stun actress' when she has to get naked infront the camera?

I think I'll choose a less disturbing movie in the theater when that comes out.

At 7/22/06 01:20 AM, Dobio wrote: The movie is not a pornography movie, so anyone with a half of brain would not think that he was actually raped.

That's not what you said last night, honey.

That's really disturbing.

That girl really annoys me. Infact I think most young girl actors do. I hate the fact that an annoying little kid like her is doing all this damn stuff and looks so modest about it.

does she need to "prover" herself as an actress? Sh'e 12!

At 7/22/06 01:05 AM, Monocrom wrote:

At 7/22/06 01:02 AM, tom3rulz wrote:

What kind of sick Fuck is going to see a movie where a child gets raped on the screen?!?!

me.

Sorry Tom, but I'd go so far as to say that not even you are that sick & twisted.

well i will probably end up seeing the movie, though i don't see movies in theatres. ever. i'm not going to boycott this movie because of morals and ideals about life i don't have.

and her mom just wants money, i can't argue that too well, but still, life is shit and shit is life. dakota fanning being raped is not as horrible as having to choose the order in which one's own family dies. i've seen that in a movie. it's not as horrible as having a life so shitty that you put a bullet in your head and almost seem justified in doing it. i've seen that in a movie too. it's not as horrible as children dying in pointless wars, and i'm watching that on the news RIGHT NOW. a little girl being raped isn't so bad. the oscars are bullshit in my mind. they go for edgy. if a movie was good i dont need an academy to tell me so.

you forget there are laws in north america that prevent showing anything to sexually graphic with minors in movies. iam sure its not going to be a explicitly done rape scene. at most they will show her naked back and everything else will be off camera or through sound design

of course if this move is made somewhere else that totally goes out the window.

At 7/22/06 01:26 AM, tom3rulz wrote:

well i will probably end up seeing the movie,
though i don't see movies in theatres. ever.

That's all you needed to say, cut the bullshit you pedo :o

Pedos are going to be masturbating at the cinemas at that part...

I understand acting in tough roles, like beeing an abused 12 year old. But were is the need in showing a rape scene ? Why do we need to see the tears, the pain, the rape.

They think we don`t understand how tought it is ? Fucking assholes, the mother and the agent AND Dakota should be castrated, shot 20 times ressurected and impaled in huge elefant dicks.

At 7/22/06 01:14 AM, Monocrom wrote:

At 7/22/06 01:09 AM, BLOODY-VIRGIN-PUSSY wrote:

Even though she's a professional actress, she's still a 12 year-old actress. Her mom is the one who controls her money. And thanks to her mom, she'll be washed-up & burned-out before she gets old enough to vote!

Agreed. It's all a ploy for Oscars. The majoridy of the public has been exposed to violence, gore, wanton killing, and the sort. In this day and age, seing someone being slashed on screen is alright with todays standards. This kind of thing, child rape is severly frowned upon and as such many react negitivly to it. It the invierse was appliable, child rape being shown on many movies as opposed to gore, then people would be shocked and horrified at the killing. At the same time, this isn't the first time that child rape and/or nudity was shown in a movie.

At 7/22/06 01:27 AM, HeinousDude wrote:

At 7/22/06 01:26 AM, tom3rulz wrote:

well i will probably end up seeing the movie,
though i don't see movies in theatres. ever.

That's all you needed to say, cut the bullshit you pedo :o

i'm not a pedophile. i will watch the movie to see what the hell they do with it.

though it did sound like i didn't want to cream myself to a little girl in a big room filled with 100's of people... but that isn't the reality of it.

mmmm I can't wait.

roflmao.

Anywho, in all seriousness...

I think this production might be good, and if the rape scene is as 'choreographed' as they say, then maybe it won't be as bad as some might expect. But i'm sure how it looks on film isn't the issue, but rather the fact that Fanning is doing this kind of stuff at an early stage in her career, and being so young.

A thing that bothered me was the "under-$5 million indie project". That's one expensive porno.

roflmao.

Okay, that was lame.

Anywho, back to seriousness...

I think she'll do fine, and it's not like it's going to corrupt her.

Well, its not as if most of her other roles have been fitting for child actors.

At 7/22/06 01:16 AM, Fyndir wrote:

At 7/22/06 01:08 AM, Monocrom wrote: As long as she doesn't go out to meet an on-line predator, but what kind of joke of a mom would agree to let her 12 year-old get raped on-screen?!

It's not like she's actually being raped, just like those people who get killed in movies aren't actually dead, it's called "acting".

She's 12.

Being part of a simulated, horrific rape scene is still going to fuck with her mind.

At 7/22/06 01:42 AM, Monocrom wrote:

She's 12.

Being part of a simulated, horrific rape scene is still going to fuck with her mind.

I disagree.

I think she is far more intelligent for her age to realize the difference. She's an actress for crying out loud!

She knows how movies work, obviously.

There is no way that filming this movie is going to give her that tramatizing experience of actually being raped, and it's after effects.

OH SNAP ITS A PENIS PUT IT IN

I wonder if there will be a scene when Dakota gets cummed in the eye?

At 7/22/06 01:56 AM, tehfuzzball wrote: I wonder if there will be a scene when Dakota gets cummed in the eye?

Uhm.

Probably not.

At 7/22/06 01:42 AM, Monocrom wrote: She's 12.

Being part of a simulated, horrific rape scene is still going to fuck with her mind.

No, it's not, because it's a safe enviroment.

It's like the difference between someone randomly walking up and beating someone else around a bit...and a controlled boxing match.

At 7/22/06 01:49 AM, Patchco wrote:

At 7/22/06 01:42 AM, Monocrom wrote:

She's 12.

Being part of a simulated, horrific rape scene is still going to fuck with her mind.

I disagree.

I think she is far more intelligent for her age to realize the difference. She's an actress for crying out loud!

Okay, let's say you met a really mature and intelligent 12 year-old. She liked you and said you could do her. She's mature for her age, would you go for it?

If you did, do you honestly think you WOULDN'T become a convicts personal fuck toy?

Lets all hit it together