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At 8/13/10 11:30 AM, camobch0 wrote:

At 8/12/10 05:34 PM, LordJaric wrote: looks like California might get gay marriage back

YAYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ohh. I thought it was going to lead to a post on prop 8 being overturned. Yeah, gay marriage is happening one way or another and no-one can stop it!!!!!!

Its become so open nowadays, the world just go crazy. I dont realy understand the gays and lesbian marriage... a nightmare, dont mind nothing about them , but it shouldn't be so open. Its a lot of talantent gay people around, but its shouldn be so open , like marriage and also claming for adopting children. What is next? Degradation of a Nation?

At 8/17/10 05:07 PM, sexycolibri wrote: Its become so open nowadays, the world just go crazy. I dont realy understand the gays and lesbian marriage... a nightmare, dont mind nothing about them , but it shouldn't be so open. Its a lot of talantent gay people around, but its shouldn be so open , like marriage and also claming for adopting children. What is next? Degradation of a Nation?

I'm not sure what you're getting at. You think gay marriages and all is okay, but as long as it's done in privacy and no-one makes a big deal about it?

Do you think the same way of straight marriages?

Or did I just misunderstand?

The gay people can't have a christian marriage, but they can live together, have a non-christian matrimony, etc...

I think GUYS shouldn't be allowed to marry and all girls must turn lesbian, and dudes are allowed to watch because they have to pleasure themselves somehow. Because the internet was destroyed in the future because baby jesus fell upon the holy soil of this good green Earth and said "All hate is created on the internet then he unplugged it" also it's way harder to jack off to a picture or something.

At 8/12/10 05:34 PM, LordJaric wrote: looks like California might get gay marriage back

Was actually talking to someone in law school today who said one of the really hard things he's doing is removing his emotions from the law. He's used to putting morality into the law, and that's causing him problems. Makes sense for the law to be amoral, which I'm guessing is precisely where the judge stands in terms of why he overthrew Prop 8.

But it's interesting that in the link is a picture of a guy holding a sign saying "A moral wrong cannot be a civil right". Yes, yes it can. In fact, that's one of the only ways the law can be blind and impartial, is to remove questions of morality entirely. Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Defining that from a moral standpoint would be quite specific.

Legally, I agree with the judge. Prop 8 seemed unconstitutional (I'll say seemed since I'm not legally sharp), and gays should have the right to marry. I'd like it taken on a national level, and to see any laws banning gay marriage overturned as unconstitutional.

Kinda what that 3rd branch is for. To make sure the majority isn't allowed to oppress the minority out of their basic rights.

At 8/27/10 05:45 PM, Sonvra wrote: The gay people can't have a christian marriage, but they can live together, have a non-christian matrimony, etc...

You were saying?

"A row has broken out after a rector became the first clergyman to hold a full-scale 'wedding' service involving two men at an Anglican church."

At 8/27/10 06:18 PM, Imperator wrote: But it's interesting that in the link is a picture of a guy holding a sign saying "A moral wrong cannot be a civil right". Yes, yes it can. In fact, that's one of the only ways the law can be blind and impartial, is to remove questions of morality entirely. Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Defining that from a moral standpoint would be quite specific.

People are STILL fighting Brown v. Board of Education.

Legally, I agree with the judge. Prop 8 seemed unconstitutional (I'll say seemed since I'm not legally sharp), and gays should have the right to marry. I'd like it taken on a national level, and to see any laws banning gay marriage overturned as unconstitutional.

I do not know much about the 14th Amendment, but in a base reading of the Amendment it looks like Prop 8 does violate it. On a separate issue, DOMA definitely violates the Consitution.

Kinda what that 3rd branch is for. To make sure the majority isn't allowed to oppress the minority out of their basic rights.

Very true. However, sadly this is not always the case. kennedy, the swing judge, has a very skewed view on what is right and wrong. He sincerely believes that Gerrymandering does NOT affect one's vote. His idea is logical, but strangely naive for such an educated and intelligent man.

At 7/19/06 09:17 PM, C-Damage wrote: Marriage is not a "christian ceremony", and the christian bible says nothing about homosexuals.

weeeel technically there is a passage in the bible that says " a man shal not lie with another man as he would a woman", but i would like to point out that the bible also says its ok to sell your daughter into slavery(leviticus i forget which part), and that wearing a shirt made of more than one type of fiber is a sin. ooh bonus fact, it also says you need to stone any adulterers to death(deuteronomy 22.. i think its 22 but im not sure) so in short, interpret your religion the way you want because otherwise it wont work in the modern day and age.

its kind of creepy that i know all this ranom stuff an am an atheist.