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At 12/28/07 12:58 AM, crazy-eye2 wrote:

At 12/28/07 12:56 AM, mash4077th wrote: me being religous(SRAIGHT) and a scientist
it is UNNATURAL for gays to have intercourse
im not fond of gay marigde but when it reachs sexual level the relationship to me is offically UNNATURAL
as in the primitive human bioligy it is simple to say man + woman = babys + egosystem = survival
but gay(inculding lesbians) + gay = NOTHING + egosystem = on large scale humans die out/ EXTINTION
so what i say is do NOT FORNICATE(for dim people sex) WITH OTHERS OF THE SAME SEX(for idiots gender)
now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That seems a bit volatile. I think you could have just said it doesn't work and your not supposed to. You do you have somthing wrong with you.

wat do u mean do i have somthing wrong with me

the reason for all of that information is to prove the point not yip and yap bullshit about nothing

At 12/28/07 12:56 AM, mash4077th wrote: me being religous(SRAIGHT)

Wow, I bet your WHOLE post will totally not be biased or anything.

it is UNNATURAL for gays to have intercourse

Homosexually naturally occurs, it may be an abnormality, yes, put it is too prevalent to oppress the ones affected.

im not fond of gay marigde but when it reachs sexual level the relationship to me is offically UNNATURAL

Why the fuck do you care if people want to fuck each other. IT'S NONE OF YOUR FUCKING BUSINESS. LEAVE YOUR BULLSHIT RELIGIOUS IDEALS OUT OF POLITICAL DEBATES.

as in the primitive human bioligy it is simple to say man + woman = babys + egosystem = survival
but gay(inculding lesbians) + gay = NOTHING + egosystem = on large scale humans die out/ EXTINTION

The world is well on it's way to overpopulation. A few less babies being born will, if anything, help the world, not harm it.

so what i say is do NOT FORNICATE(for dim people sex) WITH OTHERS OF THE SAME SEX(for idiots gender)

WHY THE FUCK SHOULDN'T THEY YOU IGNORANT HOMOPHOBE.

At 12/28/07 01:20 AM, SadisticMonkey wrote:

At 12/28/07 12:56 AM, mash4077th wrote: me being religous(SRAIGHT)

Wow, I bet your WHOLE post will totally not be biased or anything.

it is UNNATURAL for gays to have intercourse

Homosexually naturally occurs, it may be an abnormality, yes, put it is too prevalent to oppress the ones affected.

im not fond of gay marigde but when it reachs sexual level the relationship to me is offically UNNATURAL

Why the fuck do you care if people want to fuck each other. IT'S NONE OF YOUR FUCKING BUSINESS. LEAVE YOUR BULLSHIT RELIGIOUS IDEALS OUT OF POLITICAL DEBATES.

as in the primitive human bioligy it is simple to say man + woman = babys + egosystem = survival
but gay(inculding lesbians) + gay = NOTHING + egosystem = on large scale humans die out/ EXTINTION

The world is well on it's way to overpopulation. A few less babies being born will, if anything, help the world, not harm it.

so what i say is do NOT FORNICATE(for dim people sex) WITH OTHERS OF THE SAME SEX(for idiots gender)

WHY THE FUCK SHOULDN'T THEY YOU IGNORANT HOMOPHOBE.

THERE OVER--POPLATION IS BAD BUT IF THEE IS A WHOLE GENRATION AF HOMOSEXUAL WITH NO STRAIGHT PPL WE WILL SOON BEGUN UNDER POULATED TO WEE FORGET howwwwwww TO REPODUCE now !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!

At 12/28/07 02:26 AM, mash4077th wrote:

THERE OVER--POPLATION IS BAD BUT IF THEE IS A WHOLE GENRATION AF HOMOSEXUAL WITH NO STRAIGHT PPL WE WILL SOON BEGUN UNDER POULATED TO WEE FORGET howwwwwww TO REPODUCE now !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

*IF*
Keyword there, buddy.

At 12/28/07 02:45 AM, SadisticMonkey wrote:

At 12/28/07 02:26 AM, mash4077th wrote:

THERE OVER--POPLATION IS BAD BUT IF THEE IS A WHOLE GENRATION AF HOMOSEXUAL WITH NO STRAIGHT PPL WE WILL SOON BEGUN UNDER POULATED TO WEE FORGET howwwwwww TO REPODUCE now !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

*IF*
Keyword there, buddy.

JUST GIVE UP ive been here five hoursarguing u cant beat what im saying MatE
basiclly in ur case i would say look at nature ull see the point also u have a pm saying te same thing

Yup--
Homosexuality = doomned world.

and YES PEOPLE... no use arguing...
People may be dumb enough to forget how to have heterosexual sex if they readily turn to sodomy. Never heard the expression... Use it or Lose it?

A-dur...

At 12/28/07 12:50 AM, crazy-eye2 wrote: For starters and future reference, Jesus forgave sins, not excuse them.

Homosexuality is not only wrong in the religious sense, but logically too. If you are attracted to the wrong sex (as in the opposite sex), by Darwinist ideals there is something wrong with you, wrong enough to prevent you from reproducing, as in that sense is life's purpose. "Gay marraige" is a parody of marraige. Telling people that this is right is showing down the traditional and much more effective structure will only bring havoc upon society itself. It is not the same thing. Besides, 36 states already ratified DOMA (Defense of Marraige Act).

Nonono, you've gotten this all wrong. The evolution isn't just between individuals, it's also between families, tribes, and all other such groupings. It has been shown in for example dolphins that the naturally occuring homosexuality may be an evolutionary advantage, lowering competition and aggression between the males and leaving some dolphins to take care of "orphans". A group with a certain amount of homosexuality would have a higher chance of survival, and thereby reproducing, than a group with no homosexuals.

And tradition means bull in this discussion. Marriage has been around for thousands of years, and has been both heterosexual and homosexual in nature.

At 12/28/07 02:26 AM, mash4077th wrote: THERE OVER--POPLATION IS BAD BUT IF THEE IS A WHOLE GENRATION AF HOMOSEXUAL WITH NO STRAIGHT PPL WE WILL SOON BEGUN UNDER POULATED TO WEE FORGET howwwwwww TO REPODUCE now !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!

If you got a meteor in your head you could stop all that nonsense.
About the unnatural part, except for it being ridiculous seeing that homosexuality has been observed in over 500 species, see my post above for the evolutionary benefits that may be the cause of a certain rate of homosexuality.

And guess what? There has been cases where homosexuals have gotten children together with one of the opposite sex. Even married them for the sake of children.

Whether you like the idea or not, you would be completely ignorant to say they can't get married.

If the gays wan't to be bored all day, have their lives stripped from them, be around the same person every day and deal with their in-laws for the rest of their lives....

So be it

At 12/28/07 02:49 AM, mash4077th wrote: JUST GIVE UP ive been here five hoursarguing u cant beat what im saying MatE

I have continually "beaten" your points, it's just you are so blinded by your delusional faith to see it.

basiclly in ur case i would say look at nature ull see the point

Oh okay let's look at nature. We've observed homosexual tenancies in a wide variety of organisms, especially in our closest genetic species, primates.
I think it is you who needs to look at nature, asshole.

At 12/28/07 11:38 PM, LordJaric wrote: Whether you like the idea or not, you would be completely ignorant to say they can't get married.

I really don't get the argument, and I'm sure reading this thread wouldn't clarify anything.

Like, it can't be such a weak argument as 'keeping the word 'marriage' sacred'. There has to be some latent dislike of homosexuality. Which ruins the argument.

You are out of your mind! According to the constitution, marraige is entitled to all people ,homosexual men and women have that right as much as you and I. So according to your logic, they aren't people? Just "things" that have as much a heart, soul, and mind as you and I? People like you will bring about the end of our world over the belief that they don't have the same rights us! I also hope we can get people to Mars or any other planet. Why am I posting this? Because then we can send you monsters away to your little simple-minded world a man can't marry another man that he loves!

Someone tell me if I'm wrong, but marriage isn't a Christian ceremony. Think about how many other countries in the world, with different religions, that practice marriage. Hinduism, Islamic, Judaism, Arabic, etc. The practice of marriage was practiced way before Christianity, and is actually performed secularly. If, marriage was a Christian belief, and Satanists, people who are actually against Christ, can marry, then homosexuals should be able to (not saying that Satanists shouldn't, which they can, and should be able to). Outlawing gay marriage is unconstitutional on many levels. It denies gays their right to marry, because homosexuality is thought of as a sin in Christianity, and 77% of the country is Christian, so majority rules, which contradicts our right to religious freedom. Sorry that gays are harming you in any way, shape, or form, and will continue to torture you if they get these magical rights.

Ok, there's a typo in that paragraph that makes it sound like I'm gay, which I'm not.

At 12/31/07 10:52 PM, MrKyle wrote: Sorry that gays are harming you in any way, shape, or form, and will continue to torture you if they get these magical rights.

That's the thing, they are not harming anyone.

At 12/31/07 10:52 PM, MrKyle wrote: Outlawing gay marriage is unconstitutional on many levels. It denies gays their right to marry, because homosexuality is thought of as a sin in Christianity, and 77% of the country is Christian, so majority rules, which contradicts our right to religious freedom.

That makes no fucking sense and you are a complete moron.

Right to religious freedom is personal. It has nothing at all to do with gay marriage.
Ever heard of separation of state and church?

At 1/1/08 12:35 AM, SadisticMonkey wrote:

That makes no fucking sense and you are a complete moron.

Right to religious freedom is personal. It has nothing at all to do with gay marriage.
Ever heard of separation of state and church?

I think what he was trying to point out was that the reason why same-sex marriage hasn't been aloud is because of people who say it is a sin.

At 12/28/07 12:50 AM, crazy-eye2 wrote: Homosexuality is not only wrong in the religious sense, but logically too. If you are attracted to the wrong sex (as in the opposite sex), by Darwinist ideals there is something wrong with you, wrong enough to prevent you from reproducing, as in that sense is life's purpose. "Gay marraige" is a parody of marraige.

You would be right, but us humans don't really operate under Darwin's laws anymore, thanks to a handy thing called civilization, wherein we do things like keep the weak alive. Biologically, yes, of course homosexuality is "wrong." But regardless, gays are people and American citizens, and so they deserve the same rights to marriage as any other citizen.

You are fucking pathetic. You seriously care what some stupid ass book says! Wow! Do you realize you are talking to a bunch of people who don't even believe in the bible/god and all that shit. Dude, you either need to get a reality check, or leave newgrounds....cuz you are really bad at the internet.

There is no right and wrong in biology, Right and wrong simply means something that constitutes alignment with reason and justice.

Homosexuality is an unnatural occurrence, or at least an abstraction; since it doesn't seem like something that would make sense biologically from the Darwinian perspective. It's unnatural in the same reason that Autism, or, and this might be a better example, Aspergers syndrome is unnatural. Asperger's [if you beleive in such a disorder] IS a disorder. Even THOUGH there's nothing incriminating about having the disorder, it's still not a lie to say that it's not something that is MEANT to happen, or is NORMAL. Those who get defensive about terminology being used to imply that Homosexuality is abnormal should focus more on defending whether the obvious truth that homosexuality is contracted at no fault of the individual.

At 6/21/08 11:52 PM, SmilezRoyale wrote: There is no right and wrong in biology, Right and wrong simply means something that constitutes alignment with reason and justice.

Right and wrong means something that constitutes alignment with reason and justic when you're talking about reason and justice. I and whoever else used the terminology meant "right and wrong" in the literal sense of logically correct or incorrect. From a biological standpoint, it is "incorrect" for an organism to be unable (or in this case, unwilling) to reproduce. Whatever, this is just a matter of semantics that isn't really relevant to the overall points being discussed.

Homosexuality is an unnatural occurrence, or at least an abstraction; since it doesn't seem like something that would make sense biologically from the Darwinian perspective. It's unnatural in the same reason that Autism, or, and this might be a better example, Aspergers syndrome is unnatural.

The big difference is that homosexuality, if still unnatural, doesn't impair one's capacity for self-survival like the other disorders do, and in the modern human society of sperm banks and adoption, even the Darwinian "abstractions" can functionally help to carry on the human race as long as they can take care of themselves and their (potential) children.

Asperger's [if you beleive in such a disorder] IS a disorder. Even THOUGH there's nothing incriminating about having the disorder, it's still not a lie to say that it's not something that is MEANT to happen, or is NORMAL. Those who get defensive about terminology being used to imply that Homosexuality is abnormal should focus more on defending whether the obvious truth that homosexuality is contracted at no fault of the individual.

Absolutely. The sooner we can get over the fact that the world doesn't work in perfect, politically correct terms, the sooner we can actually work through the issues that people have with each other's differences instead of just bullshitting ourselves into thinking everything is a-okay.

think of the hot lesbos.

At 12/28/07 03:37 AM, fli wrote: People may be dumb enough to forget how to have heterosexual sex if they readily turn to sodomy. Never heard the expression... Use it or Lose it?

;;;
Yep, Fli I have heard that expression, I also know another one.
"It's an exit shute only dude ! "

A-dur...

;; ciao

Did you know the Bible even states that, if a man lays with another man, or women with a women, both couples are to be killed? Ridiculous if you ask me.

At 1/1/08 12:35 AM, SadisticMonkey wrote:

At 12/31/07 10:52 PM, MrKyle wrote: Outlawing gay marriage is unconstitutional on many levels. It denies gays their right to marry, because homosexuality is thought of as a sin in Christianity, and 77% of the country is Christian, so majority rules, which contradicts our right to religious freedom.

That makes no fucking sense and you are a complete moron.

Right to religious freedom is personal. It has nothing at all to do with gay marriage.
Ever heard of separation of state and church?

I believe many have heard the phrase: "..seperation between church and state..." but few actually know it was not in the constituion. Instead it was in a letter from Jefferson to a christian sect who wanted their sect to be the new basis for the legal system. Jefferson declined reminding them that is why America had been established to provide religious freedom. Historical context will prove it was meant more for christianity if you looked at the actual history of the crusades but thats another story. Seperation between church and state is a cute saying but it holds no ground. And actually marriage IS a christian institution.

At 11/27/08 09:59 PM, crazy-eye2 wrote: And actually marriage IS a christian institution.

Care to explain how Jews, Muslims, Buddhist, Hindus, Atheist, etc get married, not to mention people getting married before christianity. How do you explain all of that.

With Darwinism, the belief is that an organism with a defective gene set for it's environment will not survive or survive better but what counts is the ability to pass the gene set on, AKA procreate. If that cannot be accomplished that gene set will not be passed on. Now you may say that behavior has no direct connection with genetics. Quite the contrary. Enter Behavioral Genetics. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behavioral_
genetics

At 11/27/08 10:04 PM, LordJaric wrote:

At 11/27/08 09:59 PM, crazy-eye2 wrote: And actually marriage IS a christian institution.

Care to explain how Jews, Muslims, Buddhist, Hindus, Atheist, etc get married, not to mention people getting married before Christianity. How do you explain all of that.

I was a little hasty in that, but perhaps you shouldn't have taken that out of context. The ideal marriage in this country was transferred from Christianity.

lol You just completely avoided the question by trying to give me something that you thought would be complicated for me to understand.