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At 10/30/06 09:11 PM, Bull-Hound wrote: Wait, so if the Government is banning Gay Marraige because of Religious beliefs, does that make the US of A a theocracy?

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Good question! But a large portion of religions are against Homosexuals. So there going to have to find a religion that doesnt mind gay marraige and get hitched.

Im acually for gay marraige. Becuase im not gay so I cant be against it becuase it doesnt concern me. If you are aginst it then you have some serous hormonal issues

At 10/30/06 10:40 PM, internet-lord wrote: Good question! But a large portion of religions are against Homosexuals. So there going to have to find a religion that doesnt mind gay marraige and get hitched.

But that's the problem!
A few gays, who believe in God and see themselves part of Christianity, They find whatever is the name of that Christian sect whom marry gays, but it's not legally binding.

Gays go try to get a secular one, and they still can't.

The problem is that a majority who are in the wrong, like the Whites back in Civil Rights Era who were anti-interracial marriages, are harming a minority's right for basic legal needs that are essential for family life. I mean, gays do have families. Don't they have a right to protect them too if they choose too?

Im acually for gay marraige. Becuase im not gay so I cant be against it becuase it doesnt concern me. If you are aginst it then you have some serous hormonal issues

It's just a matter of time. Really.
Gays aren't just going to disappear in a minute. Like that often heard saying: "We're here, we're queer, get used to it."

At 10/30/06 11:35 PM, fli wrote: It's just a matter of time. Really.

You’re absolutely right Fli, although gays aren’t treated as bad a Blacks were (at least by most) before the Civil Rights Movement, in fifty years the gay right movement will be viewed in the same light as it.

At 10/30/06 11:42 PM, ImmoralLibertarian wrote:

At 10/30/06 11:35 PM, fli wrote: It's just a matter of time. Really.

You’re absolutely right Fli, although gays aren’t treated as bad a Blacks were (at least by most) before the Civil Rights Movement, in fifty years the gay right movement will be viewed in the same light as it.

Well, I'm not trying to equvicate Blacks with Gay. However, they are similar in that a majority are wrongfully denying legal rights to a minority.

And essentially, this is history repeating itself.
Whitey saying, "Blacks have the same rights to marry a White like I have the right to piss in public."

Idiot stuff like that.
Luckily we have NG actually archiving history so that in future gays will say, "Eat out your heart, bitch."

At 7/19/06 08:26 PM, Lettuceclock wrote: Gay people should not be allowed to marry, for one simple reason: Marriage is a Christian Ceremony, and the Christian bible specifically say's homosexuality is wrong. I say, let the homosexuals have civil ceromonies, as they are government ceremonies, and the government has no right to deny it to anyone. For this to work, however, I believe the

You're an idiot and how would you know if gay couples are married and i'm sure they wouldn't invite you so why does it bother you?

What the fuck is your problem. The only difference is that they like people of the same sex that is all you stupid asshole. Wait how do gays even affect you

Can anyone give a reason why gay couples shouldn't be able to marry outside of religious ones? I'm not gay but I'm kind of curious if there are any reasons.

Look, I believe that homosexuals should have the same legal rights as everyone else. To not agree with that would just be downright bigoted.

But I am also a baptist, and I do believe that homosexuality is wrong. What's so wrong about civil unions that provide gay couples with the same rights as straight couples? I mean, civil union and marriage are basically two different terms for virtually the same thing with the only difference being the sexual orientation of those in the partnership.

BTW I do realize I could be wrong about the extent of the rights provided by civil unions (this issue just isnt on the top of my importance list) , and if civil union does not carry the same rights as heterosexual marriage, then someone should be campaigning throughout congress to change that.

And that's all I got to say about that.

At 11/4/06 12:02 AM, Monty-Python1 wrote: What the fuck is your problem. The only difference is that they like people of the same sex that is all you stupid asshole. Wait how do gays even affect you

You're in Laois, asshole.

Why the fuck are people even getting emotional about this. Fuck I could say I'm against gay marriage I'd receive more infamy than any troll.

Please, gay marriage should be legal.
You know what? I do think homosexual sex is a bit unnatural. I'm entitled to my opinion
but who are we to say waht's natural and what's not?
And it's not like they're telling everyone that their sex is better.

how are they affecting YOU?
first it was the Jews being persecuted, then the blacks, then the east asians and eurasians and now gays.
People like you make this world a pathetic place
let people get married to their same sex if they want to.

At 10/30/06 08:50 PM, ThisAliasIsCrappy wrote: Gay people should have all the right to be married and be called a marry couple just because u christians hate gays does not make it wrong

amen brother
but not all christians hate gays only some.

Gay marriege is just natural progress.

I mean say one wrong thing about God 400 years ago and you would be beaten possible killed. And today you could curse something foul about God and the worst your going to get is a punch up.

Cant stop gays getting married.

A couple of things about gays. I'm sick and tired of all of the gay pride marches. Youre here, youre queer, who gives a shit? Its not that I have anything against gays other than that, as long as they don't bother me I won't bother them. I personally don't understand why a man would want to turn away from women, but if that's what you want, fine, have fun. Whatever floats your boat. I say let 'em get married if they want. I seriously doubt letting queers marry is going to bring the downfall of the traditional marry. As far as adoption or having kids goes that's a different story. That's not just something between a couple of homos, that's dragging a kid into it and possibly creating a biased opinion for that child. (I have this weird mental image of a kid bringing home his girlfriend and his fathers disowning him.) That's were you begin to get into the whole family deal. Could you imagine that poor kid at school? The personal hell they would go through just because their parents were gay? Children are cruel enough to children they consider an outsider. So why would you want to up that by allowing gays to adopt? My take on gays. Marriage: Okay. Adoption: Not no but hell no. The only plossible way I could see gays with kids is with a surrogate mother or father that actually takes an active role in that childs life. It would still be odd for the child with a mommy and two daddies or vice versa but they would at least see affection from both ends of the parental spectrum. I guess I've already made some semblance of a point, and I'm bored now, so bubbye.

what you are saying, is that you will deny people rights because of how they were born.

No, I'm not denying anyone rights based on how theyr are born. I'm just saying gays shouldn't be allowed to have children without some semblance of a mother and father in the group. I'm just saying that it's bad enough just to be a little different from the majority. Just being poor or fat or different in any small way can get you ousted by the children who like to cling together. Just these little differences can garner enough cruelt from the children who are better off that that child might consider suicide. Homosexual parents would be more of a major differences and if these small differences can make life a living hell as it is I could just imagine just how bad you would get it if you came in talking about having 2 daddies or 2 mommies. Plus I say that there should be parents of two different sexes so that then child has more of an understanding of how the other kids have it. You don't have as much of the same sex view as you would if you were to have ,well, parents of the same sex. You have the understanding of how it is to have a mother AND father so that the child has less of a chance of becoming homosexual themselves. Personally I think the child would come out better for it because they wouldn't be growing up with just two opinions that they eventually make their own but three seperate people lookiong out for them and helping them grow. I'm not saying they all have to live in the same house and sleep in the same bed, I'm just saying that the surrogate parent should have an active role in the childs life. I don't remember ever saying that a child should have rights stripped away just because they were born to gay parents, they should have all of the rights as normal kids. They'll probably see a level of hell I couldn't imagine in school but at least they'll have the care they deserve from both sexes. Even though my folks have been divorced since I was about 4 I was still lucky enough to have both a mother and father in my life andI couldn't see taking that away from a child. So I believe no matter what the situation the child should have at least some semblance of a normal family.

(actually,I hope you were talking to me because I'm not 100% on that and if you aren't, sorry just disregard all I just said.)

i got nuttin wrong wif gays

At 11/4/06 10:39 AM, Ranger2 wrote: Please, gay marriage should be legal.
You know what? I do think homosexual sex is a bit unnatural. I'm entitled to my opinion
but who are we to say waht's natural and what's not?
And it's not like they're telling everyone that their sex is better.

When did I say it was un-natural?

Oh, I see; your too fucking stupid to actually read the topic.

At 11/6/06 08:01 AM, scottish-cunt wrote: i got nuttin wrong wif gays

Good for you. Heres a cookie and a copy of 'hooked on phonix, yo'.

; Hooked on phonix; almost teaching black people to speak proper english since 1985

Gay marriage gives none of the benefits to society that straight marriage does and therefore should receive none of the benefits from the government that straight marriage does.

At 11/18/06 04:49 AM, Altarus wrote: Gay marriage gives none of the benefits to society that straight marriage does and therefore should receive none of the benefits from the government that straight marriage does.

Please elaborate.

At 11/18/06 04:49 AM, Altarus wrote: Gay marriage gives none of the benefits to society that straight marriage does and therefore should receive none of the benefits from the government that straight marriage does.

And how does a straight marriage "benefit" "society," please tell?

At 11/18/06 04:54 AM, fli wrote: And how does a straight marriage "benefit" "society," please tell?

I results in the promotion of women. This happens because the men get sick of their wives and cheat with their secretaries and reward them with perks and promotions... :P

Hey, I like looking at hentai. I deserve as much right as anyone else to marry my computer monitor.

I dont know why people are so pissed at gays getting married.

I asked a few people at college do you think gays should get married and the answers were
Dont care if they do or dont.
Think they should.

Fuck sake its marriege not as if its life and death.

"Im getting married to a man"
"who the fuck cares!"

At 11/18/06 04:59 AM, Camarohusky wrote:

At 11/18/06 04:54 AM, fli wrote: And how does a straight marriage "benefit" "society," please tell?

I results in the promotion of women. This happens because the men get sick of their wives and cheat with their secretaries and reward them with perks and promotions... :P

Well what about lesbian marriages then? That does the same thing, except with hot girl-on-girl action.

Hey sorry but I disagree with this post....
I'm a typical Straight guy and i think their unnatural and really should think going through the 'Back Door' is a right way too go, but its their choice if they prefer that.... Andas to marriage of them its not Marriage as such its a cival Partnership so its not the same, its a PART-NER-SHIP, as seen by the law. its so they can feel commited just like a straight couple can and if your not gay its none of your business what they do, so i tend to stay away from gay men any way but what ever its your opinion. good night all

At 11/18/06 02:00 PM, BanditByte wrote: Hey, I like looking at hentai. I deserve as much right as anyone else to marry my computer monitor.

Have fun getting it to consent.

Who gives a shit if gay people get married. If they want to so bad let them. Who are we to tell others what they can't do.

Marriage is now a government recognized ceremony. It is not christian. IT IS NOT RELIGIOUS UNLESS YOU HAVE A RELIGIOUS MARRIAGE. Do you think that atheists never marry? Therefore, the government should have a say in it.

However, perhaps the key foundation of our nation is that all men are created equal. Let us not forget that only a few decades ago, many thought that it was perfectly fine to segregate blacks and whites. We singled out a group of people and restricted their rights.

Now we look back on that time period in awe that we could ever have believed in that idea. We are at another transitional period now. We are singling out a group of people and restricting their rights based upon sexuality. This means, as i interpret it, we our breaking part of the foundation of our country because of our own predjudices.

At 11/18/06 04:43 PM, Peter-II wrote:

At 11/18/06 02:00 PM, BanditByte wrote: Hey, I like looking at hentai. I deserve as much right as anyone else to marry my computer monitor.

Have fun getting it to consent.

It has. And it's name is Lenore.