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shazwoogle

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Posted at: 7/19/06 05:40 PM

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At 7/19/06 05:30 PM, GamesCool wrote: I just don't think it's fair to tell volunteers they have to be on a certain amount of time.

Yeah thats true.

If a mods doing a good job, I could care less how much time the spend on the BBS.

Thats ture to :P.


I say keep the old mods, unless they are not good (meaning they break rules, etc.) and just add more mods.

Yeah, add more mods. More mods that will reside in the flash forum, thats where i spend 98.32% of my time...
But in the flash forum for all the years i have been there, i havnt seen any increase of noobs and there crap.
But I have always though the general forum was FAR to noob like for me even 2 years ago.
But now, when i go there i get flamed for asking a serious question.. then my topic gets locked.. stupid over zelous(sp?) mods, we need more cool mods.


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Sugary-Cupcakes

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I'm not saying demod them, but we are supposed to learn from teh past and as the past has shown us, alot of mods like to leave for personal(or no) reasons, or they try to hide and become elusive so they can become a NG ledgend.

We dont get new mods and say you have to be on for 8 hours each day. We get them and ask if they come to newgrounds alot plan to have computer access how often do they visit the BBS. I know a couple responsible users who respect the BBS and get on every, or every other day and they have been since sign-up.

Those are the kind of people that need to be the new mods.


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Posted at: 7/19/06 05:43 PM

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Posted at: 7/19/06 05:47 PM

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I take exception to a few key aspects of Mr. Wade Fulp's cajoleries. Let us note first of all that we were put on this planet to be active, to struggle, and to focus on what unites rather than divides us. We were not put here to humiliate, subjugate, and eventually eliminate everyone who wants to shoo Wade away like the annoying bug that he is, as Wade might think. Looking at it on the bright side, if he wanted to, he could take over society's eyes, ears, mind, and spirit. He could stultify art and retard the enjoyment and adoration of the beautiful. And he could add insult to injury. We must unequivocally not allow Wade to do any of these. The fact is, my life's work is to acknowledge that appeasement is not the answer. (Actually, he likes to have difficult social issues presented to him in simple, black-and-white terms but that's not important now.)

It's one thing to introduce disease, ignorance, squalor, idleness, and want into affluent neighborhoods, but wanting to let unambitious parvenus serve as our overlords is undoubtedly going too far. This is a lesson for those with eyes to see. It is a lesson not so much about Wade's covinous behavior, but about the way that Wade's fabulous success is not firmly connected with meritorious ability. How much more illumination does that fact need before Wade can grasp it? Assuming the answer is "a substantial amount", let me point out that when Wade tells us that individual worth is defined by race, ethnicity, religion, or national origin, he somehow fails to mention that he has overstated his case against me by alluding to an illusory past. He fails to mention that the moral devastations that accompany his misguided ideas suffice to slowly but surely violate strongly held principles regarding deferral of current satisfaction for long-term gains. And he fails to mention that it is pointless to fret about the damage already caused by his ignominious memoranda. The past cannot be changed. We must cope with the present if we hope to affect our future and improve the physical and spiritual quality of life for the population at present and for those yet to come. Wade does not merely subordinate all spheres of society to an ideological vision of organic community. He does so consciously, deliberately, willfully, and methodically. Plan to join his camp? Be sure to check your conscience at the door.

I admit I have a tendency to become a bit insensitive whenever I rebuke Wade for trying to deprive individuals of the right to break the mold and stray from the path of conventional wisdom. While I am desirous of mending this tiny personality flaw, we are at a crossroads. One road leads into the light of a bright, shining future in which disorganized, doctrinaire pip-squeaks like Wade are thoroughly absent. The other road leads into the darkness of blackguardism. The question, therefore, is: Who's driving the bus? Any honest person who takes the time to think about that question will be forced to conclude that if you've read any of the shallow slop that Wade has concocted, you'll definitely recall Wade's description of his plan to mortgage away our future. If you haven't read any of it, well, all you really need to know is that I cannot promise not to be angry at Wade. I do promise, however, to try to keep my anger under control, to keep it from leading me -- as it leads Wade -- to create a Frankenstein's monster. We can divide Wade's editorials into three categories: antihumanist, hotheaded, and psychotic. Wade either is or elects to be ignorant of scientific principles and methods. He even intentionally misuses scientific terminology to condone universal oppression. The law is not just a moral stance. It is the consensus of society on our minimum standards of behavior.


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shazwoogle

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Posted at: 7/19/06 05:49 PM

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At 7/19/06 05:40 PM, _Truth_ wrote: alot of mods like to leave for personal(or no) reasons,

well sure it happens people out grow this site, or leave for Collage it happens we cant stop this.


We dont get new mods and say you have to be on for 8 hours each day.

nah that a stupid idea, when if for some reason a mod couldnt get to a computer for a few weeks?
WHat if there Mom gets sick and he has to stay at the Hospital?

We get them and ask if they come to newgrounds alot plan to have computer access how often do they visit the BBS.

Well you could just check how often they post in there profile thing.
Although thats pretty inaccurate because i went inactive for like a year or somthing..

Any way Tom and Wade arnt just going to give modship to any old user.. they will know the person who is up for modship, like there not just gonna search though a list of names and go "OOh i like that name, hes a mod now".


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I agree that something needs to be done to clean up the BBS a bit but i think one or two members are getting a bit too carried away and vergeing on Forum Nazi's. I made a quick list to show you what i think.

What Wont Help

Word filters:

Newgrounds is know for being controversial and stoping posters from using certain words will ruin the rep of NG

Mass account deleteing:

We dont need an account slaughter maybe we could just delete accounts that have been inactive for a long period of time.

Things That Will Help

More mods:

More mods on board will benifit the BBS greatly as there will be even more mods to one user at any given time which is needed at some points of the day

Inactive/Power abuseing mods removed:

Mods who are never on the BBS to do their part should have their modship stripped and mods who abuse their power and are just outright harsh should also be stripped of their modship.

Instant locks for threads of no point:

Faster if not fairly instant locking of topics such as Console VS Console, Check out my really cool animation, what are you listening too, foamy sucks etc

Age limit raised and checked:

Maybe raise it to 16.

These are just ideas i think could really help the BBS and i will strive to improve my own posts and tidy up the forums any way i can


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Posted at: 7/19/06 05:55 PM

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Sugary-Cupcakes

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Pink-Ninja I like your ideals
it's sort of along the lines of what I'm thinking

and TACOSTAR you used an insult/complaint generator and that's exactly the kind of thing that got that last user's account deleted


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shazwoogle

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Posted at: 7/19/06 06:00 PM

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At 7/19/06 05:49 PM, Pink-Ninja wrote: What Wont Help

Word filters:

Newgrounds is know for being controversial and stoping posters from using certain words will ruin the rep of NG

Mass account deleteing:

We dont need an account slaughter maybe we could just delete accounts that have been inactive for a long period of time.

yeah all of that wont help.. i agree with you on that.

Things That Will Help

More mods:

Yes, I like more mods :P.

More mods on board will benifit the BBS greatly as there will be even more mods to one user at any given time which is needed at some points of the day

lol then mods wont realy have any real power.. and you will get people who get mod ship then go rampaging.. Never under estimate the Anarchist(sp) on NG.

Inactive/Power abuseing mods removed:

Yeah thats true, although i have only ever seen one 'Evil' mod and i think he just having a bad day... Because i saw him later on in the week and he was all cool :D.

Mods who are never on the BBS to do their part should have their modship stripped

Well if there not arround why bother? if they come back then yay we got another new mod.

and mods who abuse their power and are just outright harsh should also be stripped of their modship.

Yeah thats true, but whos gonna judge 'Harshness'?

Instant locks for threads of no point:

Faster if not fairly instant locking of topics such as Console VS Console,

bah.. there some times ionterseting, if people dont like them just dont post in them.

Check out my really cool animation,

we need that on the Flash forums! fool other whies the portal will get filled with noobish crap!
The bbs is good for that because a person can say how can i improve this, or when they show it off to people, the people will tell them what they realy think of it, like if it sucks then why it sucks so they can improve.

what are you listening too, foamy sucks etc

Yeah there pretty crap... but still i dont think instant locking is the way.

Age limit raised and checked:

Maybe raise it to 16.

Aaw then i can reside :(.


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Posted at: 7/19/06 06:06 PM

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Haha you finally took my advice and made it a reality? Sweet.

If you want, I can talk to you and develop a new rule set.


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shazwoogle

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Posted at: 7/19/06 06:09 PM

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At 7/19/06 06:06 PM, v0zz wrote: Haha you finally took my advice and made it a reality? Sweet.
If you want, I can talk to you and develop a new rule set.

Huh? are you talking to Wade?


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At 7/19/06 06:09 PM, shazwoogle wrote:
At 7/19/06 06:06 PM, v0zz wrote: Haha you finally took my advice and made it a reality? Sweet.
If you want, I can talk to you and develop a new rule set.
Huh? are you talking to Wade?

Yes I am.


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Posted at: 7/19/06 06:13 PM

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At 7/19/06 05:49 PM, Pink-Ninja wrote:
Age limit raised and checked:

Maybe raise it to 16.

Maybe whoever shows the maturity and the characteristics needed for a good mod without an age barrier. However, I do feel very skeptical about a 13 year old mod lol. The rest of your suggestions seem sound and reasonable.

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cr0miumZX

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Posted at: 7/19/06 06:24 PM

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Also, I think a way to increase the intellect of the forum would be to delete ozcar.

I mean, do we really need topics like "I'm eggs eating" or image macros like this: http://www.newground..bbs44af2f20e2549.gif
that don't make any sense.

Thank you and goodnight.


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Posted at: 7/19/06 06:39 PM

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I'll make an effort to make sure General forums stay clean


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Posted at: 7/19/06 06:41 PM

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Guys, the age minimum is completley stupid.

How can you enforce a minumum age??? People can just select any age they want.


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At 7/19/06 06:41 PM, GamesCool wrote: Guys, the age minimum is completley stupid.
How can you enforce a minumum age??? People can just select any age they want.

He's got a point, we can't tell how old someone is for sure.

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is this good or bad, what does this mean?


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sounds like the mods will be coming down pretty harsh on stupidity..
which is harsh because they are the cause of at least 1/5 of it. ha.
no its all good, spammers need to be gone.


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You should add that the politcal forum needs some more intresting topics. 6 topics on Israel and 4 topics on Gun Control = Fail.

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At 7/19/06 07:26 PM, Proud_American wrote: You should add that the politcal forum needs some more intresting topics. 6 topics on Israel and 4 topics on Gun Control = Fail.

So what's stopping you from making an interesting topic?


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Wiping a clean slate. This should be interesting. Time to make NG PROFESSIONAL

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The NG BBS Sucks. It's going to take a lot more than this to change the multitudes of unfunny idiots talking about their bleeding urethra's or how a "n00b gets super 0wn3d in a IRC". More often than not, the deliberate spam is the funniest part.

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It seems that the couple of months of my absence has really devestated the intelligence level on these forums.


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The General forum is fine how it is. What more do we need than spam topics about porn and eBaumsWorld? There's really no reason for intelligent conversations on the internet -- what we need is better spelling and grammar. Sometimes, I can't even read what you idiots post. Capitalize your sentences, use punctuation, and check your fuckin' spelling. If you do that, you can post whatever the hell you want, and still sound more intelligent than half of the people on this BBS.

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At 7/19/06 10:51 PM, subpar wrote: what we need is better spelling and grammar. Sometimes, I can't even read what you idiots post. Capitalize your sentences, use punctuation, and check your fuckin' spelling. If you do that, you can post whatever the hell you want, and still sound more intelligent than half of the people on this BBS.

thats the sort of attitude that is ruining the bbs, if people stopped worrying about puncuation and grammar and actually contributed to the conversation we would be better off.
i dont need to be told the difference between "your" and "you're" every second thread, its pathetic.


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At 7/19/06 01:25 PM, WadeFulp wrote: All you have to do is click the FORUMS button at the top of any NG page. The General forum is the forum we are really trying to improve. See you there!

isn't that how they got here in the first place to read this?


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At 7/19/06 10:54 PM, madknt wrote: thats the sort of attitude that is ruining the bbs, if people stopped worrying about puncuation and grammar and actually contributed to the conversation we would be better off.
i dont need to be told the difference between "your" and "you're" every second thread, its pathetic.

I'm not saying that people should go around correcting other people. But I've seen posts on this forum that are so grammatically incorrect and devoid of grammar and proper spacing that they're literally illegible.

When you say "your" instead of "you're" or "too" instead of "to," it usually doesn't make the sentence impossible to understand. But I shouldn't actually have to struggle to read something that's in English because the quality of writing is so bad.

Also, the problem with this forum is not so much unintelligent posts as it is unoriginal threads. We have enough "I'll draw you" threads and "photoshop this" contests. Yet people still keep making them, even if (or simply because) they know there are so many. Everyone wants to jump on the bandwagon.

Instead of trying to get attention, people should ask themselves, "what would I want to read about?" Then they should post about that. Instead of trying to fit in, people should just say what's on their minds. I'm so sick of seeing new users trying to mimick everyone else, constantly blabbing about "Wade this and sig pics that" so people will think they know what they're talking about. But no one cares.

People just need to bring something new to the forums... whether that new thing is "intelligent" or not. Even spam can be funny, unless the mods lock it before anyone can reply.

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Posted at: 7/19/06 11:05 PM

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Hey all, been around for a while, but I've never actually been in the forums, let alone done much in the way of reviews. (Please disregard my review over the mario brothers one, I was in a bad mood)

I'm what you would call one of those procrastinating animators... start a project, do some work on it for a while, and never get around to finishing it, eventually deleting it.

One of these days I will finish a flash, and even submit it!

Be on the lookout for the custard knuckles... I'm sure most of you will appreciate what I have to offer...(talk about modesty)

Until later.
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Posted at: 7/19/06 11:16 PM

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I think the content in the forum reflects the type of people who like this type of site. You'd have to attract different types of people to have different types of discussion. Theoretically, anyways.


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