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At 7/19/06 01:53 PM, Tommy- wrote:

At 7/19/06 01:43 PM, ElectroMagnetic wrote: Actually, some Mods aren't on a lot, which gives spammers the oppertunity to make a spammy thread. The thread could fall to the depths of the 2nd page and never be seen again. That lets the spammer do more spamming.

True there aren't always mods browsing the BBS, maby a few new mods would be nice perhaps users who are on the BBS alot who make good posts, but aren't necessary recognised or well known.

It happens, but mods have lives. I can't really blame them for that. Its a volunteer job. As for new mods, I don't know what it would do, it all depends on the people that are modded.

I agree, however alot of the spam comes from alt accounts, which is kind of hard to combat.

Don't allow accounts to post on their first day of existance, make them wait a week.

I'm not saying the forums won't improve, they probably will. It possible to get more mods, tell them to ban more people but it's impossible to select the type of users who browse the forum and unfortunately for NG it's mainly idiots.

It is who is attracted by flash and what drives them to the forums for the first time. The fact is no one comes here for the forums when they first discover the site. They find it by accident usually.

At 7/19/06 01:05 PM, WadeFulp wrote: It's the same on the knife site I go to. People put "I want a new knife, any recommendations?" and the topic starter gets a bunch of shit for not providing details like "How much do you want to spend?" and "What do you want to use the knife for?" and "How large of a blade do you want?" etc.

Yeah, I couldn't believe how many of those topics were started. Half the time, the topic-starter had no clue what he wanted in a knife...... Oh, except for something that "looks cool."

At 7/19/06 01:53 PM, Tommy- wrote:

At 7/19/06 01:43 PM, ElectroMagnetic wrote: Actually, some Mods aren't on a lot, which gives spammers the oppertunity to make a spammy thread. The thread could fall to the depths of the 2nd page and never be seen again. That lets the spammer do more spamming.

True there aren't always mods browsing the BBS, maby a few new mods would be nice perhaps users who are on the BBS alot who make good posts, but aren't necessary recognised or well known.

Glad you agree.

I recall one user made a post a while back, suggesting that in order to get to the forums, you have to type in the URL. I'm not saying we do that, but make it harder for users to sign up. I also think it would be a good idea for users to have a list of users which they trust and don't trust. Users with too many people having them on their trust list get a penalty of some sort. Just an idea. I also remember someone suggesting you could blam topics like flashes. With a few adjustments that idea could work.

At 7/19/06 01:58 PM, SardonicSamurai9 wrote:

At 7/19/06 01:56 PM, X-Naut wrote:

At 7/19/06 01:53 PM, Tommy- wrote:

At 7/19/06 01:43 PM, X-Naut wrote: Possibly longer bans cause a child won't learn unless you use hard discipline.

I agree, however alot of the spam comes from alt accounts, which is kind of hard to combat.

Now there's an idea,only being allowed to have a certain amount of accounts per IP address.

And that certain number should most definitely be only one.

Nah cause what if you have siblings,parents (haha) or anyone else living with you or using your computer that wants to join Newgrounds.

Another thing though. Don't some people have a random IP? the IP would constantly change for protection, or something of the sort?

I don't know much about computers in that way but i'm sure the admins could pull something off cause they are computer smart. :)

At 7/19/06 01:58 PM, gumOnShoe wrote:

I agree, however alot of the spam comes from alt accounts, which is kind of hard to combat.

Don't allow accounts to post on their first day of existance, make them wait a week.

That would help partially, but not entirely. Some spammers would wait it out, then start spamming the shit out of the BBS the minute the week was up. Thus not much is solved. I see where you'd get the idea, I just don't think it would work.

At 7/19/06 02:03 PM, ElectroMagnetic wrote:

At 7/19/06 01:53 PM, Tommy- wrote:

At 7/19/06 01:43 PM, ElectroMagnetic wrote: Double Posted Message.

Sorry. I got an error and I assumed the post wasn't posted.

Guys instead of trying to think of clever ways, like Wade said, the solution to this is simply adding more mods.

The more people of authority you have roaming the boards, the less spam you'll see. It's as simple as that.

Praise the Lord! It will finally end.

The amount of people sucking up in this topic is sickening. I'm sure they won't be happy when they get banned for posting in a spam thread.

So anyway, Wade's on a crackdown. I bet a lot more users will be banned over the next few days. I hope I'm not one of them.

At 7/19/06 02:11 PM, Britkid wrote: The amount of people sucking up in this topic is sickening. I'm sure they won't be happy when they get banned for posting in a spam thread.

So anyway, Wade's on a crackdown. I bet a lot more users will be banned over the next few days. I hope I'm not one of them.

Theres a difference between sucking up to mods and generally agreeing with them and giving them suggestions on trying to help out.

And don't worry, if you read the rules you shouldn't get banned, unless you get a rush from spamming.

At 7/19/06 02:08 PM, GamesCool wrote: Guys instead of trying to think of clever ways, like Wade said, the solution to this is simply adding more mods.

That's a short term solution to a long term problem. I think fifty mods are more than capable of handling the spam on this forum. Hell, I've seen bigger forums with less mods keep things under control. Adding more mods might allow for more threads to be locked, but when a large majority of all threads are shit in the first place does it really matter? All you've done is clear the path for the next wave of worthless threads.

At 7/19/06 02:14 PM, Idocreating wrote: Theres a difference between sucking up to mods and generally agreeing with them and giving them suggestions on trying to help out.

I agree with that...kinda apart from the bit about making suggestions. After all, mods have been chosen by Wade and are supposed to do things their own way. I meant about sucking up to Wade. Some of the sucking up is about agreeing with him because it's every time he says something.

Damn...looks like i need to watch my step more.

This is stupid. I got banned by a mod awhile ago and they gave me the link to this stupid thread. Why can't I be given the link and then if I break this rule again I get banned for awhile. I saw this thread but seeing "it ends now" I just thought wade was having fit about the PMs again so i didn't bother looking at it.

At 7/19/06 02:22 PM, regnal wrote: This is stupid. I got banned by a mod awhile ago and they gave me the link to this stupid thread.

So are you posting with an alt, while your main account is banned?

At 7/19/06 02:18 PM, Jercurpac wrote:

At 7/19/06 02:08 PM, GamesCool wrote: Guys instead of trying to think of clever ways, like Wade said, the solution to this is simply adding more mods.

That's a short term solution to a long term problem. I think fifty mods are more than capable of handling the spam on this forum. Hell, I've seen bigger forums with less mods keep things under control. Adding more mods might allow for more threads to be locked, but when a large majority of all threads are shit in the first place does it really matter? All you've done is clear the path for the next wave of worthless threads.

So if what you're saying is true, then the punishment for creating a thread like that is just not harsh enough.

Maybe a 0 tollerance policy would be the best. You make spam topic, you get banned for 15 days. You make another, account terminated.

At 7/19/06 02:30 PM, WadeFulp wrote:
Maybe we should.

Yes you should.

Its just worthless number.

Some people just take that number too seriously.

At 7/19/06 02:28 PM, Pinkasaurus wrote: Why don't you just remove the post-count?
I'm pretty sure some people just post to raise it; and most of the time they just post spam

It's not about post count it is about people trying to get themselves recognised, either to be e-cool, to get respect from other members of the community or to try to make themselves out to be mod candidates.

Removing post count will not stop this, people will actually post more often so that more people recognise who they are, instead of being satisfied with letting their post count do some of the talking for them.

At 7/19/06 02:30 PM, WadeFulp wrote: Maybe we should.

Go ahead, most people with high post counts don't care about them. ZeroAsALimit with over 20,000 posts said he would prefer it that way. All though if you do get rid of it you also get rid of how people know who to respect when they first come here. Click my sig if you really want to know what I think because I just don't want to go as in depth again. Post count doesn't show maturity, but it does point out some of the users who have been around a while.

At 7/19/06 02:27 PM, WadeFulp wrote: A lot of stuff.

Well, I guess that does make sense. I suppose I support your crackdown. I just hope new-time posters won't find themselves caught in the crossfire.

btw, the solution is more Evarks. You need to clone him.

At 7/19/06 02:30 PM, WadeFulp wrote:

At 7/19/06 02:28 PM, Pinkasaurus wrote: Why don't you just remove the post-count?
I'm pretty sure some people just post to raise it; and most of the time they just post spam

Maybe we should.

So, so true. That mentality applies to every forum that uses a post counter, and it always results in messy, pointless spam.

At 7/19/06 12:23 PM, WadeFulp wrote: To those of you who are sick of the spam, or are spammers who would like to turn over a new leaf, you can help these forums by creating interesting topics and maintain intelligent, interesting, funny, etc, dialogue in them.

I'd certainly would do, but it seems most interesting topics are already taken in any aspect.