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At 2/22/03 02:22 PM, Slizor wrote: Urm, the pill doesn't protect against STDs, nor does scooping cum out with a plastic spoon or any of the myths about sex. People need to be taught how to be safe, like people have to be taught not to look for a gas leak with a match. You have to catch them before they fall.

No shit, you think I'm a fucking tard? You know what does protect you from STDs though? Don't fuck someone who has been passed around like currency. If you are in a relationship (provided your partner doesn't resemble currency) instead of going out looking for whatever piece of ass you can get then STDs aren't a big problem.

At 2/22/03 08:55 PM, CharlieZAngeL wrote: i think that they should try to enforce abstence but teach safe sex, as a christian i belive that abstence is the way to go. but most teens would dissagree and they don't want to wait that long to have sex. And there isn't much we can do about it i mean. what are we gonna do, not everyone is gonna go with abstence, so they really should enforce it but always teach about safe sex because we all know there will be people out there "doing it"

You idiot...by enforcing abstinence you'll destroy the human race! and not everyone's christian so some won't care.

At 2/23/03 01:58 PM, DarknessIncarnate wrote:

At 2/22/03 08:55 PM, CharlieZAngeL wrote:

You idiot...by enforcing abstinence you'll destroy the human race! and not everyone's christian so some won't care.

Good point.

Both. Teach "Abstinence, but if you really must, do it safely, because of... etc."

They're going to do it anyway, and you might be able to stop a few with the abstinence speech. If not, hopefully the Safe Sex speech will allow them to use their fucking heads and not bring more stupid people into the world.

At 2/23/03 06:12 PM, PreacherJ wrote: Both. Teach "Abstinence, but if you really must, do it safely, because of... etc."

because of the little crabbies that crawl around in your hooch if you go around screwing like rabbits with any guy who smells faintly of Jack Daniels!

Wow, what a weekend! They say that part of being a teenager is knowing how to cut loose, and there's nothing quite like getting together with a big group of your peers and just "letting it rip." That teen-abstinence rally totally rocked!

We'd been looking forward to the rally for weeks, so when the big day finally arrived, we could scarcely contain ourselves. Chaperoned by our Christian Outreach adult supervisor, me and a bunch of my pals drove all the way down to Hendersonville in the Springdale Youth Ministry van. (A two-hour drive! We sang songs the whole way!) People came from all over the mid-state area, so you can imagine how pumped everyone was to get the rally started. And when Pastor Bob finally stepped to that podium and yelled, "Is everybody here excited about JEEEEEEEEEEE-SUS?" the place went totally nuts!

Some kids like to "party" and use "peer pressure" to get you to "do it." (Nobody's ever asked me to party with them, but if anyone ever did, I could see myself being tempted to go along.) Sure, it may sound like fun, but I've learned that sex is really just a "roadblock to holiness." There's only one real way to have a good time: Jesus! I realize that some teens may not consider praising God and resisting your body's sinful urges to be all that "rad," but boy, oh, boy, are they wrong!

After Pastor Bob got the crowd all revved up, he introduced the guest speaker. And guess who it was? Deborah White, Miss Teen Plovis County! Can you believe it? Wow, she sure was pretty. A girl like that could really make you want to glorify the Lord within the confines of the holy matrimonial bed, if you know what I'm saying!

Deborah said that even though she, like everybody else, sometimes feels evil, demon-planted desires deep within her loins, she was keeping herself pure and waiting for marriage, the way God intended. Just looking at her, I thought to myself, "I can't wait to someday enjoy the special feeling that comes when a man and a woman decide to do God's work and have a baby!" She told us that if we were patient and waited until child-conceiving age before learning anything about sex, that would make it so much more special! Isn't that rad?

Everywhere today's teenagers turn, they're bombarded with sexually explicit material. Television channels like HBO show R-rated movies without even bleeping out the dirty words. Public libraries openly stock books like Wifey by Judy Blume. Such magazines as Cosmopolitan and Harper's Bazaar contain underwear ads featuring models in nothing more than their underwear!

Not surprisingly, like a lot of teens out there, I was confused about my body and the plans the Lord had for it. I was having strange new feelings as I went through changes I didn't understand. I thought the MTV videos and the bikini girls on beer commercials were "cool," and I'd often think, "Gee, I wish I were like those older fellas who 'hang out' at the roller rink and press their bodies against girls when they dance." Well, no more! The rally's organizer, Extreme Teen Ministries, Inc., made it clear that girls who "put out" and boys with "Roman" hands are most definitely not cool. Whether they know it or not, they're doing Satan's work on Earth. But, thanks to Jesus' love, Satan is totally history, dude! He's outta here!

What a rockin' rally! After Miss Teen Plovis County spoke, we all went to the Hendersonville Civic Arena for a concert by Creatorz Handz, this totally awesome heavy-metal band! There were cool explosions, just like on WCW Nitro, only these were in the service of Christ! Then, after the band was done, a bunch of local teens performed a cool skit! Some of the teens were angels and some devils, and they fought over the souls of two tempted teens who were almost going to kiss. Man, was the crowd roaring when the angels finally won! Yeah!

Then, just when we thought the fun was over, we all had pizza and pop! Me and my Springdale Youth Ministry pals stayed out to 10 p.m. and didn't even get home until after midnight! See? You don't need to touch another person's body—or your own—to have a rockin' good time!

I used to harbor sin in my heart, staying up late trying to watch the scrambled channels on our family's cable TV. But now I know that the desperate urges that grip my immortal soul's mortal vessel, causing me to think about Becky Lundegaard for hours on end while I'm supposed to be studying, are nothing to heed right now. The Lord put those feelings in me for a very beautiful reason: so that one day, when I'm 18, I can fall in love, get married, and—hot-diggety!—immediately impregnate my wife! Then, nine months after my 18th birthday, I can experience the joy of bringing into the world a child who will one day grow up to be part of a whole new generation of Christ-loving abstinent teens, to continue His divine work here in Springdale.

Let's get ready to rock, people! Jesus is in the house, and He is way awesome!

i am very willing to do it but hey that's the way it goes, when a guy gets laid he gets lucky

No shit, you think I'm a fucking tard?

Well, since you mention it, I have been wondering.

You know what does protect you from STDs though? Don't fuck someone who has been passed around like currency.

Not only sluts have STDs you know. I could qualify this point more but it's just plain obvious. If you really want to protect people, that includes "currency" you have to teach them about safe sex, such as using a condom.

At 2/25/03 10:11 AM, Slizor wrote: Not only sluts have STDs you know.

Very true. All it takes is one act of risky behaviour. A person could contract an STD (or become pregnant) while having intercourse for the first time.

The first proven case of female-to-female HIV infection has been reported not that long ago. One of the couple was infected before the two started dating, and since then they had maintained a monogomous relationship. Since the two were not drug users or enganged in other risky behaviour (sex during menstruation, sharing toothbrushes or razors or needles) it's been theorized that the virus was transmitted through the use of sex toys.

She [Dr. Helena A. Kwakwa] added that women having sex with women could do a number of things to protect themselves from HIV.

"The barrier method of prevention helps," she noted. "Using dental damns, plastic wraps, and avoiding the sharing of sexual toys--at least without washing with soap and water and bleach."

Above taken from http://hvlib.integris-health.com/HealthNews/reuters/NewsStory0211200313.htm

At 2/23/03 08:28 PM, Ted_Easton wrote: Wow, what a weekend! They say that part of being a teenager is knowing how to cut loose, and there's nothing quite like getting together with a big group of your peers and just "letting it rip." That teen-abstinence rally totally rocked!

HAHAHAHA! The Onion is classic man. Only 6 hours till the new one comes out!

I think that there is no way to "teach" abstinence without drilling into a kid's head forever that sex is evil sex is evil never have sex or your winky will shrivel up and fall off. That's the way they taught it to me and I just ignored them as a result.

At 2/25/03 10:11 AM, Slizor wrote:

No shit, you think I'm a fucking tard?

Well, since you mention it, I have been wondering.

You know what does protect you from STDs though? Don't fuck someone who has been passed around like currency.

Not only sluts have STDs you know. I could qualify this point more but it's just plain obvious. If you really want to protect people, that includes "currency" you have to teach them about safe sex, such as using a condom.

but see...whores KNOW they need a condom or they'd be out of business from mass child care

I would have to say safe sex... I have two small children myself, and while I'd like for them to wait (wouldn't we all wish that), I'm not going to be ignorant and think that that would even truely be probable. I believe that whatever the choice, however, that this should be a topic for at home, but also for school as well. We know that there are a lot of parents out there who are not there for their children, and it would be a shame for so many kids to be left out on such an important issue. I think it's time we all take control and resposiblity!

governments and all that shit seem to be trying too hard to push that garbage on ppl. just let them know without all these shitty assed piles of commercials.

It's true... but how do you plan to do that?

Both.
Abstinence because it is a status symbol to have had sex and some kids are under the impression that you need to fall in love and start a family before you are 26 or you will become a dried up old spinster. Boys also seem to have a nasty habit of coercing young girls into having sex and those girls really need to know that it is acceptable to say no.

Safe sex because they aren't always going to be kids and they need to know what options are available to prevent unwanted children, STD's and HIV.

I also think schools should be able to make condoms and dental dams available to their students because it encourages safe sexual relationships.
And besides, who doesn't want free condoms ;)

At 2/21/03 02:45 PM, Kemamine wrote: Schools should teach both in different ways. Abstinence is the only way to completely prevent pregnancy and STD's, but most people are going to have sex no matter what they learn in sex ed... Sex education should teach both and give students the honest truth about sex.:

Very well put! I completely agree. Students should be given accurate information about all thier options and the possible consquences.

I think it is the responsibility of the government AND the parents to teach both the importance of abstinence and "safe" sex.

Whlist no sex is safe, 30% of teenagers will have sex before they are 17, so teaching the most effective protection that one should use is a priority.

But abstinence so really also be kept in the fore front because it is so much safer. You don't have to worry about STD's or pregnancy.

At 3/1/03 05:01 PM, CannedFries wrote:

:no sex is safe

Well the problem with that statement is that condoms are safe, thus using condoms=safe sex

At 3/2/03 10:10 AM, DarknessIncarnate wrote:

At 3/1/03 05:01 PM, CannedFries wrote:
no sex is safe

Well the problem with that statement is that condoms are safe, thus using condoms=safe sex

No condoms are not "safe" they are (as some one pointed out before) only "safer." They can break and do not protect against viruses. Also if they aren't used properly (for ex: some one brought up before that came men allegedly put condoms on before climax) they are not effective either.

Sex is on everyone's mind. Man, I don't see what happened to George Michael's mid-80's references to monogamy and stuff like that. I mean, as long as you're not bagging everyone who comes by you, and maybe even stick with one person before marriage, then you shouldn't have too much of a problem.

Or...just don't...if you're worried about the crabbies in Le Hooch.

I think both.
Teens are going to do what they want weather or not it's safe... espically if they are in that kind of situation!!! But for the ones who want to stay pure... there is always abstanace*.... But I do agree.. Jesus will take care of all your "fleshly desires" if you let him. I should know, I'm a teenager myself... More people in 7&8th grade are going around getting STD's than you think. I know a BUNCH of people who have made that kind of mistake.
Also, Condoms don't protect you from EVERYTHING... sometimes.. they don't protect u from anything... so, Don't rely on them for protection.. they don't always come through!! And then, who knows what kind of problems you could have.
All i'm sayin is....
You have your hard headed teenagers, then you have the ones who need to know there's more to life!!
~Jamie~

should you really even ask? hell yes. that is one of those moral issures that anyone with half a brain should know.

Safe sex because if you tell a kid to do something, many times they'll just say "Fuck you" and do it anyway. Kids are going to have sex no matter what you say. If you say, "you could have a baby" they'll think and see that it's totally possible. I mean safe sex is just more common sense. Abstinence is just like "don't get a girlfriend" fuck them. SAFE SEX ALL THE WAY!

WTF!? Why have you bumped a thread from 2003!?

If everyone did this then the forums would be a complete mess!
The link at the beggining is outdated now anyway. Let old threads die, make new ones. idiot.

Well, Ted, I must say, get a life you fucking fag!

At 1/24/05 05:48 PM, spawnofsatan6661 wrote: Well, Ted, I must say, get a life you fucking fag!

Who's "ted"?

At 1/24/05 05:52 PM, SkyCube wrote:

At 1/24/05 05:48 PM, spawnofsatan6661 wrote: Well, Ted, I must say, get a life you fucking fag!

Who's "ted"?

He's referring to Ted_Easton, one of our esteemed mods. Ted posted a saitire post towards the top of this page, and our new poster, 'spawnofsatan' has not taken kindly to it.

At 2/23/03 08:28 PM, Ted_Easton wrote: Wow, what a weekend! They say that part of being a teenager is knowing how to cut loose, and there's nothing quite like getting together with a big group of your peers and just "letting it rip." That teen-abstinence rally totally rocked!

The guy who wrote a whole page on how a abstinence rally was so good.. I think he's just using his religion as an excuse to the fact that he can't get laid

At 1/24/05 05:56 PM, spawnofsatan6661 wrote: The guy who wrote a whole page on how a abstinence rally was so good.. I think he's just using his religion as an excuse to the fact that he can't get laid

It was satire. A spoof. A send-up.