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At 7/12/06 09:16 AM, -Kuro- wrote: Punk died in the 70's.

After London Calling was released in 79 it sort of went downhill...

At 7/12/06 09:06 AM, Mr_Pope wrote: The Buzzcocks

You're an orgasm addict, an orgasm addict.

That song just started playing on my music player.

At 7/12/06 08:34 AM, JohnnyWang wrote:

At 7/12/06 08:30 AM, Zen444 wrote: So get over it.

How exactly does a music genre die?

In retrospect of it demand or purpose.
Such as Jazz use to be a huge hit, tell me, how many new jazz bands and hits do you hear on the radio? virtually none unless you got the occasional jazz station.
Loads of genres are pretty much dead with the very exceptional band who wants to reminince. Which usually don't pull it off so well trying to balance fame with it.
Like thrash metal is a dead genre, since the only band still playing it are bands still around from the 80s.
Punk is dead for 2 reasons. the music didnt just die out as a phase per se as a type, but the message it brought was about the UK, which was argued about american goverment later. It involved, or tried to involve, a movement with its music.
Which no one cares about anymore..So ya, genres don't die in the retrospect it will be wiped from the earth, but "new" versions of it, wont exist, or be bastardized, or depending on the genre, generic.. unless you get some magical band to come out.

Let me establish a few things:

1.) Punk was born about 1976/77

2.) The Ramones were not a punk band, they were rock. They said it themselves. Neither were the New York Dolls.

3.) Punk died in 1986. That's when Minor Threat broke up, Bad Brains turned reggae, and every other hardcore punk band either broke up or turned metal.

4.) NOFX has been pop-punk ever since they released "Ribbed", 1990. They were hardcore punk from 1983-1988.

5.) Anti-Flag has never been a punk band, and never will be. Pop-punk sucks.

6.) Neither are the Distillers

7.) Or The Casualties

8.) OR The Buzzcocks (first pop-punk band ever)

Shit try telling this to my school >:/ they'd murder you.

Id say punks been dead for a while, now its just a bunch of morons on mtv whining about their girlfriends.
Oh and the first proper punk band from the UK was the dammned not the pistols.

Nooo! Punk is still alive. There are many punk bands.

At 7/12/06 08:30 AM, BillCosby wrote: So get over it.

Trust me, The Sex Pistols shot it in the head before it was even born.

PS: This is what the alphabet would look like if Q and R were eliminated.
PPS: Stop saying The Sex Pistols were the first punk bands. You're embaressing yourself and your loser group of friends who listen to The Offspring.

If you weren't such a dumbass you'd know that thats not the only punk band. The casualties and Dead Kennedys still do shows.

true punk is dead yes. you cant hope to revive with bands like NoFx or Pennywise. perhaps its just neo-punk like neo-nazis

At 7/12/06 08:36 AM, elephunt wrote: stop making fucking threads.

stop making fucking threads.

The Clash still players.

At 7/14/06 08:03 AM, DarkSytze wrote: The Clash still players.

The Clash stopped playing 20 years ago, and Strummer died in 2002.

At 7/14/06 07:57 AM, jubedube wrote:

At 7/12/06 08:30 AM, BillCosby wrote:

If you weren't such a dumbass you'd know that thats not the only punk band. The casualties and Dead Kennedys still do shows.

yeah but the new dead kennedys is shite without Jello.

The only person who truly knows what punk is, is John Lydon.

THEY SHOULDN'T SEPERATE MUSIC INTO DIFFERENT GENRES. IT GETS PEOPLE IN A STUPID "WHATS-WHAT" WAR!

lol

At 7/14/06 08:23 AM, SaiNT_SiLEiGHtY wrote: THEY SHOULDN'T SEPERATE MUSIC INTO DIFFERENT GENRES. IT GETS PEOPLE IN A STUPID "WHATS-WHAT" WAR!

lol

HHahERHhHAHAHhAhaHEHE lol

omg

you kids are a bunch of pussies, stop fucking using this thread

there was never such a thing as punk, it was a name given to the sex pistols by THE MEDIA!!!!!!!!

so shut your bloody noise up

At 7/12/06 08:34 AM, JohnnyWang wrote: But Sex Pistols didn't exactly ride a fad or anything.

That may be so, but they considered themselves a Rock band and rove upon a self-created wave of sensationalism.

Music never dies it jsut gets quieter

I hate people who try too hard to fit into groups, dont get me worng if ur in one of these groups fine, you dont bother me but all these people who try too damn hard or reckon they can lsiten to one album and become a hardcore fan of a band.

It happned with american idiot for greeday and for the artic monkeys and many other bands its like fuck off name at least 5 songs form different albums!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

you obviously have no idea what youre talking about.

At 7/14/06 08:20 AM, GoatPOWER wrote: The only person who truly knows what punk is, is John Lydon.

Public Image Ltd. is awesome. He reforms the wrong band for tours. :(

There are plenty of groups about today who continue to play what was once called Post-Punk. Groups such as Les Georges Leningrad, Cure, Throbbing Gristle, Sisters Of Mercy, Bauhaus, etc.

Of course, that's wherte all these Indie bands trace their lineage to. Groups such as Gang Of Four and Smiths.

Of course, I like all sorts of music and am by no means a musicologist, but this is what I have gleamed from years of reading liner notes.

At 7/12/06 08:47 AM, Leech_Axss wrote: Punk isn't really dead, it sorta got folded into emo.

and stuff like panic! at the disco, or should that be conciderd as emo to?
anyway punk isn't dead it's just more underground

At 7/14/06 04:15 AM, TheCrazyPanda wrote:

3.) Punk died in 1986. That's when Minor Threat broke up, Bad Brains turned reggae, and every other hardcore punk band either broke up or turned metal.

what about nirvana?
i think punk 'died' with kurt

At 7/14/06 10:06 AM, mellow-muppet wrote: anyway punk isn't dead it's just more underground

Well the problem is, that it splintered into so much stuff.

Look at Indie, that comes from Post-Punk that came from Punk.
Industrial and Goth are just types of Post-Punk.

So many bands were worried about the scene becoming increasingly poppy that they made Hardcore Punk.

Groups like Ramones and Buzzcocks are hard to find, that blurry line between being a punk band and a pop band.

I think Randy and The Hives manage it.

At 7/14/06 10:10 AM, mellow-muppet wrote:

At 7/14/06 04:15 AM, TheCrazyPanda wrote:

3.) Punk died in 1986. That's when Minor Threat broke up, Bad Brains turned reggae, and every other hardcore punk band either broke up or turned metal.

what about nirvana?
i think punk 'died' with kurt

technically nirvana were grunge

At 7/14/06 10:12 AM, Fishyninja wrote: technically nirvana were grunge

Grunge was like a crossover between Punk and Metal, according to what I've read.

What would that make bands like Discharge? :O

I find Musicology to be redundant anyway.

No, not the Prince album, that IS NOT redundant.

Punk lost all momentum as a legitimate social force for change and became just another fashion and music trend where everyone looks more or less the same (conformity) and everyone listens to more or less the same music (cultural atrophy).

Also, Vans Warped Tour.

At 7/14/06 10:14 AM, ZeroAsALimit wrote: What would that make bands like Discharge? :O

crust, aka street punk.

At 7/14/06 11:59 AM, sea_food wrote: crust, aka street punk.

I thought Crust was closer to Grindcore and Street Punk was Oi! (neither of which seem to address the music of Discharge).

At 7/14/06 12:01 PM, ZeroAsALimit wrote:

At 7/14/06 11:59 AM, sea_food wrote: crust, aka street punk.

I thought Crust was closer to Grindcore and Street Punk was Oi! (neither of which seem to address the music of Discharge).

Wikipedia calls em Hardcore Punk and Crossover Thrash....

*gives up*