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Damn you Sony! Jul. 11th, 2006 @ 12:26 AM Reply

linky Sony is just tryin to keep people from buying the PS3 aren't they? That and piss off stores like EB Games


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Response to Damn you Sony! Jul. 11th, 2006 @ 12:27 AM Reply

Damn it. I don't want to register, I'm registered at enough places.


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Response to Damn you Sony! Jul. 11th, 2006 @ 12:27 AM Reply

At 7/11/06 12:26 AM, corbinator wrote: linky Sony is just tryin to keep people from buying the PS3 aren't they? That and piss off stores like EB Games

it dosent even matter because sony sucks ass all I want to do is go home and play with my wii

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Response to Damn you Sony! Jul. 11th, 2006 @ 12:29 AM Reply

At 7/11/06 12:27 AM, tarahloveshentai wrote: Damn it. I don't want to register, I'm registered at enough places.

You don't have to.


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Response to Damn you Sony! Jul. 11th, 2006 @ 12:29 AM Reply

At 7/11/06 12:27 AM, SUPERLINK3000 wrote:
At 7/11/06 12:26 AM, corbinator wrote: linky Sony is just tryin to keep people from buying the PS3 aren't they? That and piss off stores like EB Games
it dosent even matter because sony sucks ass all I want to do is go home and play with my wii

But you already do that now.


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Response to Damn you Sony! Jul. 11th, 2006 @ 12:30 AM Reply

At 7/11/06 12:29 AM, corbinator wrote:
At 7/11/06 12:27 AM, tarahloveshentai wrote: Damn it. I don't want to register, I'm registered at enough places.
You don't have to.

The story you requested is available only to registered members.
Fail.

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Response to Damn you Sony! Jul. 11th, 2006 @ 12:31 AM Reply

At 7/11/06 12:30 AM, TehMoonMaster wrote:
At 7/11/06 12:29 AM, corbinator wrote:
At 7/11/06 12:27 AM, tarahloveshentai wrote: Damn it. I don't want to register, I'm registered at enough places.
You don't have to.
The story you requested is available only to registered members.
Fail.

Thank you.


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Response to Damn you Sony! Jul. 11th, 2006 @ 12:32 AM Reply

Anyway.... The PS3 in a lot of the consumers' eyes is the weak link in the NextGen consoles. In my opinion... I'll probably buy the 360 around the second price decrease and the Wii at launch. Unforuntately, I'm not too happy with the Wii remote, but the controller is awesome looking.

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Response to Damn you Sony! Jul. 11th, 2006 @ 12:33 AM Reply

At 7/11/06 12:30 AM, TehMoonMaster wrote:
At 7/11/06 12:29 AM, corbinator wrote:
At 7/11/06 12:27 AM, tarahloveshentai wrote: Damn it. I don't want to register, I'm registered at enough places.
You don't have to.
The story you requested is available only to registered members.
Fail.

Doesn't show up on mine, it's the LA times and i live in texas...idk but basically Sony has patented some stupid stuff that would keep already played games from being played on a different system. So like you can't play a used game,borrowed game,a friends game. I'll try to find another link.


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Response to Damn you Sony! Jul. 11th, 2006 @ 12:34 AM Reply

yes, you do have to sign up to see it...

here's the article for people who don't want to register for the site.

Furor Over Sony Patent
Technology that could prevent resale of games and other digital goods raises speculation, fears.
By Dawn C. Chmielewski, Times Staff Writer
July 10, 2006

Sony Corp. has patented technology that would prevent its PlayStation consoles from playing used, rented or borrowed video games — raising questions about whether the electronics and entertainment giant may attempt to redefine what it means to own something in the digital age.

Sony has said little about the technology, patented in Japan in 2000, or how it might be deployed. But speculation over Sony's plans has sparked a furor online as game fans and consumer advocates fret that the company may incorporate it into the upcoming PlayStation 3 console, due to hit stores this fall.

ADVERTISEMENTThey worry that it would wipe out the $1-billion-a-year market for used games and could even prevent someone from playing their games at a friend's house.

It is not unusual for technology companies to patent innovations and then never incorporate them into products.

Documents filed in April 2000 with the U.S. Patent Office describe a method of copy protection by which the game system would verify a disc as legitimate, register the disc to that particular game console, then wipe out verification data so the disc would be rendered unreadable in other PlayStations.

"Since only titles for which legitimate software has actually been purchased and which have been initially registered in the machine table can be used, resale (so-called used software purchase) after purchase by an end user becomes practically impossible," according to the patent documents.

Although Sony has been vague about its plans for the technology, "I actually think they're toying with this idea," said Michael Pachter, a game industry analyst for Wedbush Morgan Securities.

Pachter said he thought Sony probably would not tighten the software locks on PlayStation 3 games but might employ bolstered copy protection on other forms of entertainment downloaded to the console over the Internet.

"Maybe they'll copy protect movies or music downloads," he said.

Whatever Sony's plans, the tempest illustrates the changing nature of ownership as millions of people accumulate vast collections of digital entertainment. Few people realize that when they buy software, music or movies, they are actually buying a license to use, listen or watch.

That's why it violates copyright laws for people to sell copies of their music collection.

Sony was attacked this year for including software on some of its music CDs that surreptitiously installed itself on computers playing the disc. The software was intended to prevent unauthorized copying. Sony later apologized.

Taking that sort of copy protection one step further would be, in the words of one analyst, "crazy."

"What does Sony get from that?" said John Taylor of Arcadia Investment Corp. "Sony gets a black eye. It doesn't make sense to me."

Several analysts said the patent appeared to principally be aimed at deterring game piracy. Indeed, Sony's patent notes that through the complexity of its copy-protection scheme "manufacture of counterfeit software becomes extremely difficult."

And it's not unusual for technology companies such as Sony to register patents either in anticipation of one day collecting royalties from someone seeking to license the technology or to prevent someone else from deploying it.

"These are all things technologically possible to do in any computing device," said one cryptographer, who requested anonymity. "In the video game business, it would be suicide for someone to do this. It's actually possible Sony filed this because they wanted to keep people from doing that."

Nonetheless, online speculation that Sony would use technological or other means to ban the sale of used PlayStation 3 video games prompted one analyst, P.J. McNealy of American Technology Research, to study its potential effect on the industry.

"While we believe it is unlikely that SNE will ban PS3 pre-owned games from being sold by the same chains that sell new PS3 games, we believe this issue remains under consideration," McNealy wrote in a research note issued June 23.

McNealy estimated that game fans spent about $990 million buying used games, primarily from GameStop or through EBay. Much of that spending — about $620 million — is for used PlayStation 2 games.

Were Sony to ban the sale of used games for its next-generation PS3, the effect on independent video game publishers would be negligible, McNealy said.

Used-game sales are a growing source of irritation for game publishers, which receive no proceeds from the resale of games. Executives privately complain that cheaper secondhand games are available for sale shortly after a new game's release; publishers, which give retailers marketing money to promote games, end up competing with discounted versions of their own titles.

Major independent game publishers Electronic Arts Inc., Activision Inc. and THQ Inc. declined to comment.

Meanwhile, used games are a lucrative source of revenue for retailer GameStop, which began reporting pre-owned game sales after its acquisition of competitor EB. Last year, secondhand game sales accounted for $930 million in revenue and $418 million in profit. The profit margin was 45%, compared with 21% for new games, according to Arcadia Investment Corp.

Analysts say used-game sales contribute to the overall growth of the video game market, in the same way that the ability to trade in a used vehicle fuels the new-car market.

"A used-car market creates currency to buy new cars. Same with games. Everybody acknowledges that," Pachter said. "The problem is if the used game is available a week after the new game is out for a $5 discount."

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Response to Damn you Sony! Jul. 11th, 2006 @ 12:34 AM Reply

Here touch this linky.


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Response to Damn you Sony! Jul. 11th, 2006 @ 12:36 AM Reply

This rumor was disproved by Sony months ago.


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Response to Damn you Sony! Jul. 11th, 2006 @ 12:42 AM Reply

"In the video game business, it would be suicide for someone to do this. It's actually possible Sony filed this because they wanted to keep people from doing that." Also said above that Sony disproved it.

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Response to Damn you Sony! Jul. 11th, 2006 @ 01:07 AM Reply

This is old, but Sony is going to fail this Gen anyhow. The Wii will win and the X-box 360 will become even more popular.

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Response to Damn you Sony! Jul. 11th, 2006 @ 01:09 AM Reply

At 7/11/06 12:26 AM, corbinator wrote: linky Sony is just tryin to keep people from buying the PS3 aren't they? That and piss off stores like EB Games

this shit. Well, it's still in the planning stage. hopefully they won't do that

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Response to Damn you Sony! Jul. 11th, 2006 @ 01:10 AM Reply

At 7/11/06 12:26 AM, corbinator wrote: linky Sony is just tryin to keep people from buying the PS3 aren't they? That and piss off stores like EB Games

Those bastards! They try to make you become a registered member now!?! NOOO! I won't do it. BTW, Sony sucks, and so does EB for that matter. They rip you off like mad. Especially with systems. I can find a GameCube at EB for $99.00 CAD. At Microplay(which is Canadian) I can find one for $69.99 CAD(heh). The only thing Sony ever came out with that was decent was the PSP. I'm sorry to say it, but it is better than the DS(I have a DS of my own).


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Response to Damn you Sony! Jul. 11th, 2006 @ 01:24 AM Reply

is this a level 9 reunion?