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At 7/12/06 05:21 PM, rockizzy wrote: who says everyone whos going to a bar is going there to drink? i like to go to bars and clubs to listen to the music and to dance. i dont need alcohol for that (i agree with you, by the way, in saying that alcohol is a "poison" as well. but at least i dont get cancer from breathing in peoples beer-breath, so i wont be asking for an alcohol ban). so besides second hand smoke, theres nothing poisoning me. unless you consider coke and rock and roll poisonous.

I was refering to a strait up bar. Not one of those dancing places, but a place to go to drink. You know the type, one tv playing golf with no sound, a single pool table that fifty people are waiting in line for, a dirty bathroom, and a fully stocked bar. That's what I meant. People sound absurd bitching about smokers in a place like that. The clasic dive, that was my favorite bar. They don't exist since the ban. Non smokers never whent there. Now they close faster than I can find them.

Of course.

Unless you want a weak people, you should only favour smoking in private properties.

At 7/13/06 09:49 AM, Leonardo_Da_Finchy wrote:

At 7/12/06 05:21 PM, rockizzy wrote:

so besides second hand smoke, theres nothing poisoning me. unless you consider coke and rock and roll poisonous.

Maybe you should have specified Coca-Cola. Some noob will interpret that as cocaine. Rock and Roll, though? Gooood! The cure for the Blues!

youre right. i better revise my statement:
besides second hand smoke off of cigarettes, cigars, cigarillos, or joints, there is nothing poisoning my body. unless you consider coca cola, sugar, caffeine, the stuff they put in food to make it last longer, genetically engineered vegetables and fruits, the environmental pollution in general, hanging out with gay people, and rock and roll poisonous.

I do believe public smoking should be stopped. Even if you go to a non-smoking area in a restaurant, smoke still gets to you. It's the person's choice if they want to smoke at their house, yard, or in their car. One time I went out to eat with my mom, aunt, and uncle. Now my mom and I don't smoke but my aunt and uncle together do 'bout 2 packs a day. My mom and I spent like an hour and a half and my aunt and uncle together smoked 13 cigs at least right in front of us. It was very nauseating. I think it's intolerant to smoke publically.

-M

my bad together my aunt and uncle do 4 packs a day

ALL indoor smoking in public places has been banned here, even in bars. On top of that you can't smake within 25 feet of an entrance or window of a public building.

Thank god for this. I don't care if one smokes but don't stink me up with your bad habit.

What a load of shit. Second hand smoke is NOT worse for you. It's a proven myth, and an obvious tool of propoganda. People need to start worrying about their own fat asses and cholesterol before they start worrying about my lungs. Thank God I live in the greatest city in the world and I can still smoke in places that allow me too.

Smoking should only be allowed in tiny crowded smoking places, 50 miles away from any public place. Or better yet in the ocean. Deep in the ocean.

At 7/14/06 03:18 PM, carmelhadinosaur wrote: Smoking should only be allowed in tiny crowded smoking places, 50 miles away from any public place. Or better yet in the ocean. Deep in the ocean.

I don't like smokers...well that's not true, I got friends that smoke, but I certainly wouldn't date a smoker.

Well my parents quit years ago, so now I basically don't give a damn.

At 7/14/06 02:55 PM, MaagicSttick wrote: I do believe public smoking should be stopped. Even if you go to a non-smoking area in a restaurant, smoke still gets to you.

The aroma, not the smoke. It might not smell great to you, but your nasty smelly ass might be even more offensive and I don't see any public stinking bans going into effect.

It's the person's choice if they want to smoke at their house, yard, or in their car.

Just like it's an establishments choice if they want to allow smoking in their place of buisness. Why can't the government butt the fuck out and let small buisnesses handle their own buisness.

One time I went out to eat with my mom, aunt, and uncle. Now my mom and I don't smoke but my aunt and uncle together do 'bout 2 packs a day. My mom and I spent like an hour and a half and my aunt and uncle together smoked 13 cigs at least right in front of us. It was very nauseating. I think it's intolerant to smoke publically.

I think your'e the only one being intolerant. If you don't like being exposed to people smoking how about you politely ask them to stop or you just don't go out to eat with them to begin with. I'm not the one who sat down at your table and lit up, so don't punish me for your dumbass family.

At 7/9/06 04:29 PM, DUDECOW wrote: We all know smoking is bad for you, I say smoke all you want- I don't care if you die. I know its addictive, hard to bite the habbit- I should know, half my family is dead now from it, but should PUBLIC smoking be illegal? Second hand smoke kills too, Not as much but still it kills them! No one deserves to die for something they didn't do.
Secondhand tobacco smoke contains over 4,000 chemical compounds.

Should public Farting?
It releases methane gas which is poisonous and harmful to the ozone.

What about deodorant / antiperspirant?
Some people are very sensitive to these types of items.

public smoking shouldnt be banned. But if it is then Fat people should be banned. Fat people are worse than smokers

At 7/14/06 03:17 PM, Me-Patch wrote: What a load of shit. Second hand smoke is NOT worse for you. It's a proven myth, and an obvious tool of propoganda. People need to start worrying about their own fat asses and cholesterol before they start worrying about my lungs. Thank God I live in the greatest city in the world and I can still smoke in places that allow me too.

It's bad, not worse. And please show proof that second smoke is good, or at least nuetral toward you. I'd like to see it.

second-hand smoke is bad

At 7/14/06 03:32 PM, Craazyfool wrote: public smoking shouldnt be banned. But if it is then Fat people should be banned. Fat people are worse than smokers

Big difference. Breathing in fat people's air doesn't cause cancer. Only they are effected.

At 7/14/06 03:58 PM, earthsea wrote:

At 7/14/06 03:17 PM, Me-Patch wrote: What a load of shit. Second hand smoke is NOT worse for you. It's a proven myth, and an obvious tool of propoganda. People need to start worrying about their own fat asses and cholesterol before they start worrying about my lungs. Thank God I live in the greatest city in the world and I can still smoke in places that allow me too.

It's bad, not worse. And please show proof that second smoke is good, or at least nuetral toward you. I'd like to see it.

I didn't say it wasn't bad, I said it wasn't worse. And it is "nuetral toward me" because I activley suck the smoke directly into my lungs from the butt of the ciggarrett. The smoke thats floating around my head becomes a mute point.

second-hand smoke is bad

There has been a propoganda campaign in America claiming that second hand smoke is worse than first hand because there is no filter attached. It's a proven myth. Anything else you want me to clear up.

At 7/14/06 04:02 PM, Me-Patch wrote:

I didn't say it wasn't bad, I said it wasn't worse. And it is "nuetral toward me" because I activley suck the smoke directly into my lungs from the butt of the ciggarrett. The smoke thats floating around my head becomes a mute point.

Sorry, miscommunication on my part. I agree with you here.

Wait, isn't the question here whether public smoking should be banned? As in, not in private homes, businesses etc.? So surely the answer's yes?

In the smoker's private home, ok, it's fine. In businesses that allow smoking, it's fine. But in public buildings it should definately be banned. Why? because, like many smokers have said, those private establishments where smoking is allowed should be avoided by those who dislike smoke.

But in those places that are owned by the state, thus are owned by everybody, they should pay consideration to the majority of people who dislike smoke. In those private establishments where they choose not to smoke, the smokers should respect that, and go elsewhere.

A big problem is "smoking areas", because smoke is dumb, and doesn't stop at the non-smoking border. Businesses should decide one way or the other, and stick to it. Smoking should also be banned from restaurants.

There should be law enforcing a public smoking ban, and legislation to help persecute those who smoke in businesses that want a non-smoking atmosphere.

Public and restaurant smoking should be banned, and private non-smoking areas should have the law behind them, but the law should keep out of those private establishments that choose to allow smokers.

At 7/14/06 03:23 PM, Me-Patch wrote:

At 7/14/06 02:55 PM, MaagicSttick wrote: I do believe public smoking should be stopped. Even if you go to a non-smoking area in a restaurant, smoke still gets to you.

The aroma, not the smoke. It might not smell great to you, but your nasty smelly ass might be even more offensive and I don't see any public stinking bans going into effect.

You do not know me enough to make that comment about my body parts, for all you know I smell like a ton of fresh something nice

At 7/14/06 03:09 PM, Camarohusky wrote: ALL indoor smoking in public places has been banned here, even in bars. On top of that you can't smake within 25 feet of an entrance or window of a public building.

I would LOVE to see that happen here in Houston, TX. Our streets, building to building, are probably only 75 ft wide. Do the math

As a smoker myself, I would say no. As a human being that cares for the safe being of others, I'd say yes. It's true that people can get cancer by inhaling the smoke smokers leave behind. But then again, they can also get cancer by the exhaust fumes and other gasses we leave in the air. I don't believe bannign public smoking would solve much, but I believe it'll solve the problem of trash on the street, since many smokers put their cigarettes out on the curbwalk or anywhere else on the ground outside.

At 7/9/06 04:48 PM, SevenSeize wrote: It's already been banned where I live. Cannot be done in any buildings besides bars. Some restaurants with large bars allow it at the bar, but there is no more smoking/nonsmoking section.You also cannot smoke at hospitals unless you are in your car.

Where do you live? I wanna move there!

I'm all for restricting smoking in most public places. The fact that second hand smoke is unpleasant is no big deal to me, but that's not the point. Secondhand smoke is bad for your health, and I feel that non-smokers should get the right-away in that situation. Non-smokers aren't the ones who are threatening other peoples' health. Obviously if your in a place where you're one of the few non-smokers then it's your problem, but that situations not too common where I live.
I seriously doubt smoking will be banned in the US all together though, and I'm not saying that it should. The government and the tobacco companies would both lose a lot of money it that happened.

At 7/23/06 12:51 PM, D-Bibz wrote:

I seriously doubt smoking will be banned in the US all together though, and I'm not saying that it should. The government and the tobacco companies would both lose a lot of money it that happened.

that probably why they haven't banned smoking... Another stock market crash- great depretion- Survivors- Bill Gates, Bush, and a mexican named Poncho

At 7/14/06 04:02 PM, At 7/14/06 03:17 PM, Me-Patch wrote: There has been a propoganda campaign in America claiming that second hand smoke is worse than first hand because there is no filter attached. It's a proven myth. Anything else you want me to clear up.

Yes. Who needs that propaganda? I understand brainwashing in way it's not bad - it's advantageous to tabacco companies. But opposite?

Leonardo_Da_Finchi, I'm all with you.

At 7/14/06 04:02 PM, At 7/14/06 03:17 PM, Me-Patch wrote: There has been a propoganda campaign in America claiming that second hand smoke is worse than first hand because there is no filter attached. It's a proven myth. Anything else you want me to clear up.

Yes. Who needs that propaganda? I understand brainwashing in way it's not bad - it's advantageous to tabacco companies. But opposite?

Leonardo_Da_Finchi, I'm all with you.

it's been done for chicago except in out of town places like at the local steak and shake. They still have seperate sections.

At 7/10/06 02:40 PM, ReiperX wrote:
A lot of smokers say that its not harmful, yet its been shown it is. Is it as harmful as smoking? Most certainly not, but its still not good.

what?

At 7/23/06 04:12 AM, DUDECOW wrote: I would LOVE to see that happen here in Houston, TX. Our streets, building to building, are probably only 75 ft wide. Do the math

Ask the people of Seattle how thier streets look since the ban.

Its banned in Scotland, and I was there recently, ok in some areas people take no notice and nothings changed. But where it is, its really good. People can smoke in the own homes and on the streets but not public places. Its great if you dont smoke because you dont get everyone smoke in your face, and the people who do want to smoke can. They just have to go onto the street where the smoke wont get to people or in there own homes.

I no why they did it cause the amount of kids smoking in Scotlands huge. There supposed to be debating bringing that law to England, but I dout it will happen. Government are to happy getting the money in tax from it, than to bother about the health of the nation.

At 7/11/06 04:30 PM, ArchFascist wrote:
Having gay sex spreads STDs, so no more gay sex. = Your logic for banning smoking. By the way, if the smoke's bothering you just take a damn step back. The actual fumes rise into the air.

Having straight sex spreads STDs too, and you're an idiot.

Being a smoker in Sweden, where smoking in all public buildings is banned (clubs & bars included), I don't really mind the ban. It's not that hard to go outside for a smoke, cool air once in a while istheshit if you're at a club and most importantly you don't smell like shit when you come home (just because I smoke doesn't mean I want to smell like 200 other people's cigarettes).

One down-part to the ban though, is that in the first couple of weeks of the ban, a lot of clubs started to smell like sweat and vomit with the distinct smell of tobacco being removed... But most places have dealt with that now, with ACs and what-not.