Transapien??

[timlikescookies]

Hey guys.. just forwarding this rele long essay thing. This was made because me and azriel were argueing over the word transapien which was derived from homosapien. I thought that this article was slighly informing and amuzing but thats just me. hope u enjoy!

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From: Tim Santos <[e-mail]>
Date: Jul 6, 2006 1:45 AM
Subject: Re: skate
To: Azriel Domingo <[e-mail]>

I'm going to teach u a lesson in biology. Yup that right.. BIOLOGY!!!

and a little English

I'm sure u know this but homo sapien is the scientific name for a human.. if we break it down..

we have the words homo.. and sapien..

now.. it would be properly typed like this..

Homo sapien

the first letter is capitalized for organization reasons. however.. the first word is what genus the life form is in. humans are in the genus named "ho mo" as well are prehistoric monkeys.. the second word is the species we are in.

By the way, genus is a group of classification if u didn't know that

the name is always in Latin. why? because its a dead language and it can never change... if we break it down even further... homo meaning "man" and sapien meaning "modern

For even more example. the name Homo floresiensis (link) (man of Flores) Flores being an island

NOW... since we know that these names are in Latin... we've made the word Tran sapien

in reality.. this is no real word in Latin. (link) however.. there is one stem that resembles it which is tra(ns).. which means across, distance, etc.

some words that have stemmed from that are transit, transportation, travel. etc.

I'm pretty sure we were thinking of the "French or German" .. (or some different Europe language) stem which means 2.

for example.. the words.. transvestite( person with 2 genitals ) , transversal ( a line that passes 2 other lines) , etc.

Now, in conclusion. tran sapien is not a real word and will never be. unless scientists make a new genus named tran and coincidentally have a species named sapien. since tran refers to movement and distance. the word transapien would refer to something modern and fast or moves a lot. aka machines?? haha jk.. or perhaps hyper kids. (like you!! jk) (sorry.. this report was to serious and i had to add a comical angle in it)

works cited:

google
Notredame
wikipedia
high school biology

hypothesis:
I predict that there will never be a creature with the name transapien. The only things that move a lot and are modern are machines. most animals that move a lot are already classified and have been on earth for a while. However, if a new creature is brought upon this earth, then yes. there may be a slight chance that it will have the name transapien.

opinion/final words:
I hope u enjoyed this Azriel. This just proves that i am not an air head now go off and suck a lemon. u anoying movie wrecker...lol

-tim

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[fli]

At 7/6/06 03:30 AM, aznbudi1704 wrote: sapien meaning "modern

"Sapien" does not mean "modern."
I like to fancy myself as the etymological expert on Newgrounds, so I'm gonna step right in.

It means "wise" or "to know."
It has several cognate words in several Romance languages, including Spanish's "saber." (To know.)

Homo sapien means "wise man"

[lapis]

At 7/6/06 03:30 AM, aznbudi1704 wrote: I'm pretty sure we were thinking of the "French or German" .. (or some different Europe language) stem which means 2.

for example.. the words.. transvestite( person with 2 genitals ) , transversal ( a line that passes 2 other lines) , etc.

I'm just going to comment on the language part. Trans always means: over, across, on the other side of, etc. First of all, a transvestite is not a person with 2 "genitals", but it's a person of one sex who dresses like people of the other sex. A person who wears the cloths that they normally wear on the metaphorical "other side". You might have been thinking of a hermaphrodite, a person who has both male and female genitals. Second of all, a line that crosses 80 parallel lines is still a transversal, the "trans" doesn't refer to the minimum of two parallel lines but once again to the "crossing" aspect that's associated with the word.

sapien meaning "modern

"Sapio" is Latin for: I think, I am wise. "Homo Sapiens" means a man who can think, who is wise. There is no such thing as a "Sapien", without the s. Homo Sapiens is singular, I think the plural is Homines Sapientes but I'm not completely sure.

I have no idea what Homo Transsapiens would be supposed to mean, someone who has crossed beyond knowing or something. Maybe a new species of humans that knows something about "the other side" could be called Transsapiens. But I'm sure it doesn't exist as of yet.

[fli]

At 7/6/06 04:19 AM, lapis wrote: First of all, a transvestite is not a person with 2 "genitals", but it's a person of one sex who dresses like people of the other sex.

Very right...
"vestite" comes from "vestire" meaning "to dress."

again, many Romance languages has this word...

And we have it in English too... but in a noun form... "vest."

But going back to the original post...
About how "transapiens" cannot be ever a word.

Don't be so sure... English is a language that breaks many rules and creates exceptions. Sure, many of our words is so easy to break down to the smallest morpheme... BUT--

Sometimes words change even if the root meaning say otherwise. I was talking to my teacher about ideas for my graduate work, and this topic came in. Hence... not every cognate word may mean the same thing... Like "pomade" and "pomagranit" (Each steming from the latin word for "apple.") I can't think of any other words... Lemme check out the word "abate." (It just sprung into mind a few seconds ago...)

But going back to the word "transapiens."
If anyone is going to make the decision... it will be the scientists.
In my experiance, scientists aren't as aware of language as somebody who studied English or Etomology.

They can make "transapiens" if they wished, but I'm assuming if this was a new different species similaro to sapiens...

All I'm trying to say is... don't be so sure.
But I'm thinking... they won't use that word.

I dunno... your email is fucking hilarious because of the huge errors in the linguistical examples... and I don't know WTF is a "transapien." Only thing I could say is that should a "transapien" be discovered... it may or may not be aptly named thus so... even if, etymologically, it means, "across knowlege."

But... I've already offered my "pomade" versus "pomagranite" example on how the original meaning doesn't necessarily transfer to other similiar words.

[Makaio]

along with all that other criticism id just like to throw in something a little less scientific.

A transapien could also be the name of post-humans, it doesn't have to mean transport it could mean transcend, since sapien apparently means wise or to think this would also make sense because of the theory that our brains will be equipped with quantum computers in which case our decisions could possibly be nearly instantaneous requiring little to no actual thought.