Forum Topic: So, I'm A Fucking Sell Out...

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Posted at: 7/5/06 12:45 AM

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For sticking to Martin Luther King's beliefs.

This thread is about race, and how hard it can be to stick to what you believe in, in hard times. There is a lot of text. If you don't feel like reading it, hit the back button. If you're planning to post an idiotic comment, this is not the thread for it. If you got nothing to contribute, don't post.

Today is was my brother's birtday (Yesterday counting now, July 4th). And my family set up a BBQ. Almost all of the family was there, some that hadn't see each other in years. All was good and whatever. I remember from back, it was said in my family that until you're 18+ and paying bills, you comments don't matter. (Kind've like how NG works, whatever). I'm 19 now, meaning that I can say what I want to, and have the words to back them up, rather or not people or listening or not.

My cousin Eric didn't show up. But I pad no mind to it until I heard this statement...

"He's probably with that white whore. Fucking sell out to the family. I'm glad he didn't show up."

"He's no real man."

"Too weak for a real woman. I bet she takes care of him, instead of the other way around."

"Who's the bitch in this relationship?

Those words hit me hard. If you haven't guessed it by now, I am black. And for some reason, it's taboo to have a white woman as your aqaintance, girlfriend, lover, fiance, and wife. While I think this whole concept is bullshit, it's still played out day in and day out now.

So I walk up to my family and pause and ask them...

"What's wrong with having a white woman as your girlfriend"

The second I finished that sentence the looks I got changed within a fucking heartbeat. All these people that had smiles on their faces quickly changed into a warped look of "What the fuck did you say?" So a couple of seconds go by because of the shock that came from my question. The answer I got back was...

"Kid, white women are doing nothing but taking away the good black men, and turning them into shit afterwards"

"Yeah, you may think you know everything, but you don't know shit kid. White people are still holding us down."

"Got that right. They smile at you, praise you, but can so easily stab in you in the fucking back."

"Black men should stay with black women."

I was appauled at these comments. I was overwhelmed to a point where no one here could believe. My thoughts had been different for years, and as I looked around, I saw that no one else, besides my little brother that wasn't able to say anything due that stupid age rule saw what I saw in people, and believed what I believed in. So I asked...

"Why should we have to stay within our own race? Why are you telling me things that anybody can do regardless of skin color?"

Answers I got back

"It's wrong to date outside your own race. Simple as that."

"Regardless of skin color? Nigga please. They're always holding us down. Keeping us back."

I hate the word "nigga". Anyone that knows me, knows very well that I hate that word. And because I'm black, even though I can say it, I don't, simply because I have no use of it. I find the word useless, and uneeded, yet hear it everyday. I came back. My responses were...

"So by denying what Martin Luther King believed in, we are doing the right thing? By constantly fucking up every oppritunity we get to unite all races we are doing the right thing? Does any of this makes sense to any of you? I'm getting tired of that "White people are holding us back" bullshit. It's that same bullshit that's holding our own race back from actually thinking that they can achieve something better than what people see us as from the get go. Is it that damn hard to prove people wrong, or do you all like falling into stereotypes? Is it so hard to acknowledge people for the person they are, and not skin color. Wasn't MLK that said that he had a dream that people of all races could get together without all the bullshit you're telling me?"

It was now there turn to be shocked. They couldn't believe what I had said. But here's the surprise ending...

"Shut the fuck up! You don't know shit! You have no idea how hard it is for a black man in this White man's world!"

"Yeah, you have no pride in your own race!"

"The only reason you've gotten as far as you did was because you simply turned your back on your roots. What? Are you ashamed to be a black man. A real black man?"

"He's not black. He's just trying to be white. He's as much as a sell out a Eric. A dramatic sell out."

"All you are is reformed black man trying to be white. That's pathetic."

Surprise, shock, disbelief, need I say more? Knowing that my words wouldn't get through to them, I left them with just one question...

"So is being a black man...a man that sticks to his own race? Hates all white men and women? Sits back on there ass and believes everyday the white man is out to get them so much that they don't even try? Is being a sell out, a person that sees something differently by not acknowledging a person there skin color, but by their personality? Is being a sell out, a person that works hard everyday to avoid going through hard times. Is being a sell out, a person that sees the good in everybody, and not there own race?"

They couldn't answer. So I walked away. Now I got almost all my family looking at me differently, but it's worth it. I know what I believe in, and that's that, the reality call of this experience is, no side holds no complete saints. That is how I feel on the matter. And while I can't hate my family for what they believe in, I can't help but wonder if this is what MLK truly wanted for my people.

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I've done almost the exact same thing with my family.

They dont talk racist around me anymore.

I complained at them once for it, and I got grounded because of it.

Good to see that you're speaking when you know you should.

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how exactly do you grow up opposing something your family opresses upon you since you were younger?

anyways i live in an all Thai neighborhood so i don't really have a problem.

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Yeah, it's kind of like Spike Lee's words after he received an award recently for Do The Right Thing: "This movie was meant to change, but look at us now, so how much progress have we made?"

He said it in the MTV Movie Awards, and the words may have been a little different, but still, it's the truth.

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You're a good man for speaking the truth to them, but it's a shame they're too blinded by this false thinking. You made it seem like being black is like being in one big gang, but we're all people, no gangs involved.


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Way to fight the power (your parants) bro! You rock!

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At 7/5/06 12:51 AM, Yokumashu wrote: how exactly do you grow up opposing something your family opresses upon you since you were younger?

I never got a hint or clue that they felt this way. Just great acting on their behalf I suppose while I grew up thinking entirely different.

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Jesus Christ, I hate that. The whole "whitey's out to get me" bullshit is played out and old. If you don't succeed it's your own damn fault and don't blame anybody else for it.

Think you're pretty clever...

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its true, we are holding you down.
we use you for our entertainment..
our music, our sport..
but you hated it when we wouldnt let you do those things..
we cant win either way.

also, i wish african american women would go for white but they never seem to..
just as well polynesian and other islander women do..
white women are the worst.


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At 7/5/06 12:53 AM, gamingpro wrote: Way to fight the power (your parants) bro! You rock!

My mom passed away about four years ago, my father is wasn't there, never was. I was raised by mom, then my grandma. After she passed away. Nearly everything I believe are the things I picked up myself and what I felt was right, I never really did talk to my family.

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On a more serious note, yes, you were right for sticking up to Martin's beliefs. Its the fact that some people hate the other races still. The idea of white's as backstabbers? Not true. Yes, some whites are backstabbers (like in any other race) but not all of them. Am I a backstabber? No, I'm not. So try to tell your parants that even if they hate whites, not all of them are bad.

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Haha, the other extreme I've seen is black kids wanting white girls because they're white men's trophies. Damn, your family's self-defeating. Good thing you think for yourself.


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I lot of black people I know (Not all) feel the same way to, which is why I can't stand being around them for too long, because some blatantly racist remarks will come spewing out of their mouths.

You're family is just as bad as the ones sporting swastikas, white hoods and confederate flags.


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Keep your filthy black genes away from me.


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You are an amazing person. We need more men like you in our world.

I applaud you.


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At 7/5/06 01:00 AM, KingOfTheKill wrote: Keep your filthy black genes away from me.

I can't tell whether you are being a complete fag or just being sarcastic to strike a nerve in other users.

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Dude, those words are amazing. I'm speechless.


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well good bout time some one showed those ignorant fucks what is real. Ignorance is bliss and blind sighted people will always blame race and other shit for their problems. Read my sig quote by gaston it sums it all up.


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At 7/5/06 01:03 AM, DancingTomato wrote:
At 7/5/06 01:00 AM, KingOfTheKill wrote: Keep your filthy black genes away from me.
I can't tell whether you are being a complete fag or just being sarcastic to strike a nerve in other users.

Maybe a bit of both.


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That's ironic, because it's basically the same way with my family, just the other way around. Well, not all of them. Most of them have no grudges against other races and don't mind dating outside of your race, but there are a few who think differently. Although, unlike you, I've never confronted any of them about this issue. I just don't care enough to do it. Not that I don't care about the issue, I just don't care about the people. I'm not going to waste any of my time preaching to my ignorant, woman hating uncle about women rights. And I'm not going to sit around explaining why gays should be allowed to marry. Plus, I never needed to speak up about my thoughts for anyone in my family to know what they are. They can already tell the type of person I am and what my beliefs are. Some of them are very conservative. They used to constantly badger me for having long hair.

But, what can you do? White trash will be white trash. I just can't wait for a few select funerals, so I can sit back in my black shirt and tie, with a grin on my face.

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You're not a sell out. I believe people fight with each (i.e. black and white) because of excues or whatever. I know an older white dude (about 21). He called this insurance place racist becuase he applied for a job there and didn't get it, but a black guy did. He tells me he has a high school diploma and then tells me the other has a college degree and that the place is racist. All i can think of is that im surprised he has a diploma.They hired the black dude because he went to college you dumbass! He played the racist card as an excuse. I believe that black people say the "white man" is holding him down or whatever as an excuse for shortcomings. I'm surprised your whole family was like that. How many things could they blame on racism but if throughly thought through there could be another explanation? Unfortunatly making excuses is what humans do when things do not go our way. Something/Someone being racist nowadays is uncommon. It usually has to do with 1.) education 2.) attitude 3.) Personality NOT their skin.

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Needless to say, you did the right thing. I'm glad you were able to come to your views by your own means.

Also, I think you ought to get a white girlfriend just to see their reaction.

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Tons of props my dude.


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Must be hard, since it's your family


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You're family is fucking delusional.

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youre family sounds old fashioned.

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I agree with Clever_Nickname. We need more people like you in this world.

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Nice words their. Grown people can be ignorant and pretty racist. Since they grew up in those times, heh. I believe in "the system"of opression, but I also believe that people have to do something about it, not just sit and cry about it.

Also, I'm not much into MLK. More into X. You should really listen to this speech, if you have'nt already.

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At 7/5/06 01:10 AM, Legionnaire-X wrote: You're family is fucking delusional.

I'll say it again, they're fucked in the head.

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I fucking agree w/ you man my parents were fucking pissed when they found out my roomate is black. Like I give a fuck alot of my good friend are black. Well after sitting down and actually talking to them I got them to shut up about it quite quickly because they know me and they know I am not raicest. So now they have to accept it that I am my own person and I have the right to choose who I habg around with and what I do.

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