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i didnt feel like reading all 11 pages of this chat, so these ideas might have already been said:

-A 'most downloads' section for top downloaded songs

-a user can only download his own music, like i dunno, 3 times? and another user can only download it like 5. this would prevent self-downloading or 'framing people to make it look like they self download'.

-get expireience, BP, and whistle points in the Audio section too (that one i know was already said but i wanted to put stress on it ) and getting exp from reviewing is a great idea.

At 4/15/07 11:45 AM, BMC-Audio wrote: i didnt feel like reading all 11 pages of this chat, so these ideas might have already been said:

-A 'most downloads' section for top downloaded songs

Why? So the already overrated songs can get even more attention?

At 4/15/07 12:22 PM, SBB wrote:

At 4/15/07 11:45 AM, BMC-Audio wrote: i didnt feel like reading all 11 pages of this chat, so these ideas might have already been said:

-A 'most downloads' section for top downloaded songs

Why? So the already overrated songs can get even more attention?

YES! good point...

perhaps a Most downloads for the week thing.... Where it shows the song that got the most dls in a week or something... Although i can already see how corrupted that could get.

At 4/15/07 11:45 AM, BMC-Audio wrote: -a user can only download his own music, like i dunno, 3 times? and another user can only download it like 5. this would prevent self-downloading or 'framing people to make it look like they self download'.

Wait what about no and instead make it so a download doesn't count in the download counter if a user downloaded it more than once

At 4/16/07 04:24 PM, SBB wrote:

At 4/15/07 11:45 AM, BMC-Audio wrote:

Wait what about no and instead make it so a download doesn't count in the download counter if a user downloaded it more than once

Well said! That'd be perfect

Hate-rating (this is in another topic of mine as well):

People give me 0s without reason. Why not force people to listen to an entire song before contributing to its score (whether via rating or reviewing)?

i agree with rucklo. but what if the AP was made more like the FP? have some of the same features as the FP just with a little more kick? have the ability to blow the whistle on music we may believe is stolen? be able to add musicians to a new favorites list? a lot of questions could be asked and possibly a whole new newgrounds could be launched :|

If we're revamping the AP and making it more like the FP, one has to ask the question: Why was it made? So that musicians could donate their loops to Flash authors.

If we're making it more like the FP, it'd still entail the "FP authors can use your music for free" clause but the music doesn't necessarily have to be useful for flash. More like an auditory version of the Flash portal.

Bump

(Hopefully this stimulates negative reactions, thus generating more posts and activity! Maybe someone will answer my question!)

In my opinion, at least the rating system. One 5-rating and the song hits the first place. It would be nice if audio could be 'blammed' like a flash.
A song's rating can change too much with just 1 vote.
I think it would be best that a song needs at least 5~10 votes before it can have a rating.
And disallow users voting on their own songs.
It's worse enough that a song can hit first place with only 1 rating, it's even worse when a user does that for himself.

... I think people have noticed this more times, but okay.

they already said they arent going to make it like the flash portal - so you guys can quit making "flash portal" like suggestions as they will just get ignored.

At 4/23/07 10:45 AM, Chronamut wrote: they already said they arent going to make it like the flash portal - so you guys can quit making "flash portal" like suggestions as they will just get ignored.

That's the opposite of what I heard;

"The Audio Portal will eventually be a system much closer to the Flash Portal, which will hopefully lead to it being more fair."

Tom Fulp quoted, and quote taken out of context, but my point is that there's no need leaving certain suggestions out. None of us have the slightest idea of what theyre planning for the redesign, and other future updates.
It's good if actual discussion takes place in this thread about ideas and such, but if there's an idea you DON'T like/think is stupid or whatever, keep that opinion away from the thread. There's no point in letting the thread grow ridiculousy large by discussing ideas in a negative manner. It will only make it alot more difficult for the administrators/NG co-workers to read through and find the "goodies".
Just try to keep this in mind before attacking other ideas but also don't be afraid to let the creativity flow! :)

i have my own ideas for the audio portal i shall make a list

1:MORE PANDAS (theres not enough)
2:less butt wipe zero voters (if you vote zero on more than 6 songs ) you get labeld a butt wipe
3:you should be allowed to use the same name track as someone elses if the other track is more than a year old or hasnt been listend to in over three mounths.

4:less pandas(theres too many)
5:A section for the metally confused tracks
6:free leather pants for the winners of the daily who can be the best race
7:pictures of the person who just uploaded a track will randomly fly out of the monitor and into the crotch of whoever is watching
8:modest changing rooms
9:more girl frendly atmosphere (i want teh online poon tang)
10:paragon x shall not exist ever
11:no title music on the front page or the title music should be the track thats just been uploaded
12:A new bus
13:a link to this forum
14:a giant glove that fits over the screen
15:tom/wade fulps weekly amazing loop competion where you can win a life time of jeolous zero voting
16:It should be black and blue the colour of my pain
17:shorter lists
18:the proclomation of the extension of my finger
19:fanta SHOULD BE ON TAP
20:NO PEPSI ALLOWED

there i hope you enjoyed reading that i much as i hate zero voters

At 4/22/07 08:32 AM, endlessnumber wrote: Hate-rating (this is in another topic of mine as well):

People give me 0s without reason. Why not force people to listen to an entire song before contributing to its score (whether via rating or reviewing)?

True true, if not a bit unnecessary if they really know it isn't going anywhere, but I do notice how songs seem to be unfairly judged, the ones that are blatantly better are often just rated 0 out of pure spite. Perhaps for the more serious audio portal users, everyone should have their votes counted proportionally to their experience in the same way that flash voting is done? It would make it so that newbies wouldn't just enforce their musical taste and enter a single genre just to devalue the higher ranking tunes.

I cant imagine listening to a god awful 5 min song before i was allowed to vote it crap.

UK Grime Section

At 4/23/07 04:53 PM, Sandwhich-lord wrote: i have my own ideas for the audio portal i shall make a list

1:MORE PANDAS (theres not enough)

I concur

2:less butt wipe zero voters (if you vote zero on more than 6 songs ) you get labeld a butt wipe

Butt wipe is too weak of a term. However, this is uneccesary, we need to find out how to make people more likely to vote, not less likely. The scores need to be a larger average from a bigger group from motivation such as XP points.

3:you should be allowed to use the same name track as someone elses if the other track is more than a year old or hasnt been listend to in over three mounths.

Too specific, you should just be able to use the same name regardless of the condition of the other track. Blams/protections would have helped this because there would be significantly less tracks to begin with.

4:less pandas(theres too many)

I concur, good thing you're serious with this on I don't think anyones paying attention.

5:A section for the metally confused tracks

No more genres

6:free leather pants for the winners of the daily who can be the best race

No comment...

7:pictures of the person who just uploaded a track will randomly fly out of the monitor and into the crotch of whoever is watching

I see why you want the metally confused section

8:modest changing rooms

who?

9:more girl frendly atmosphere (i want teh online poon tang)

I concur, but there are outside websites for that

10:paragon x shall not exist ever

I disagree, although he shouldn't be constantly whored. A little less paragon would be nice.

11:no title music on the front page or the title music should be the track thats just been uploaded

This would hurt my ears just a tiny bit less than constant paragon whoreage, thus I agree.

12:A new bus

The old one sucks.

13:a link to this forum

Are there none?

14:a giant glove that fits over the screen

moving on...

15:tom/wade fulps weekly amazing loop competion where you can win a life time of jeolous zero voting

That would be sweet.

16:It should be black and blue the colour of my pain
17:shorter lists
18:the proclomation of the extension of my finger
19:fanta SHOULD BE ON TAP
20:NO PEPSI ALLOWED

This would have been funny except it wasn't.

there i hope you enjoyed reading that i much as i hate zero voters

You must not hate zero votes. Seriously, there will always be zero voters, to get more people to counter that with their votes is the only solution. Daily, weekly and monthly prizes would attract more zero voters, but on th other hand many more positive and serious votes. Adding XP would be incentive and having audio voting power would even it out.

At 4/23/07 04:53 PM, Sandwhich-lord wrote: i have my own ideas for the audio portal i shall make a list

all of that would make the AP a world and being of its own (although it almost is...)
i guess a fanta machine mounted on the computer wouldnt be such a bad idea either :D

i think the AP would probably get more hits as the FP if they were about the same way. having the ability to blam or blow the whistle on suspected audio could give a definate edge to keep pirates who openly has the ability to post stolen audio at bay. that would definately allow the actual artists who post thier own audio a chance to get recognized. and for the people who just go through everyones audio and give it 0's a temp ban and if they continue after the temp ban, a perma ban on the AP. but i do agree with the forcement of listening to a song before voting on it (kinda like new flash animations that have the rating appear after the flash has been open) to a certain extent. probably about 30 seconds of play time would be suitable and actually gives the listener a chance to hear the song and not be an instant critic because they might actually enjoy the song and rate it fairly.

At 4/26/07 12:22 PM, hellsmaw18 wrote: i think the AP would probably get more hits as the FP if they were about the same way. having the ability to blam or blow the whistle on suspected audio could give a definate edge to keep pirates who openly has the ability to post stolen audio at bay.

o but you can you can click the little X by the voting bar but don't expect it will work. There's not that many people stealing other's work either way

At 4/26/07 12:25 PM, SBB wrote:

At 4/26/07 12:22 PM, hellsmaw18 wrote:

o but you can you can click the little X by the voting bar but don't expect it will work. There's not that many people stealing other's work either way

true, but not everyone either know what that little x is or they simply dont care. ideas are ideas thou. not one idea is a bad idea unless is has a negative effect on the result (still think computers should have some kinda vending device in them...)

1. Instead of 1 Featured Artist a week, 10 (Will Get people more Excited about the Weekly Rollover.
2. Rating Sytem - A. Votes are only used to sum up the Relevency the track has on the community. (without No Negative Votes to damage the tracks Score there's only one way to go and its up. Another Pro about this is If a song isn't really valued by anybody it'll just be left unvoted.
B. Its Archived by The Date along with all other entries submitted for that Day that way users have the option to look back and See what was new when. B 1/2 . In two seperate ranks, Most downloaded, and Most Voted, should be created for each week.
C. A "Special" button should Be Placed in the voting system(Some songs are good enough to just vote on and add to its relevency sum and some songs are Good enough to be Noted. So that the songs that Stand out really do. At the end of the week all Submissions that have been Voted enough "Special" will Be Added Up on a different Segment, Just Like In the Flash Portal. These Will be the ones with potentail to be one of th featured.
D. Ranking should be within The weeks archive it was Submitted instead of being in a endless battle to Go up and down the grand ladder. This will allow people to Keep Track What Artist were well recognized, in a particular week. This is good Because Example: If a game is acclaimed Superb its always ganna be good but it doesn't mean it should be competing constantly with games to come. Its Recognized Great in Its time. So Even If its Old Its Still can be Discovered by new Users. And that way everyone knows what was good in that particular Week
E. Once A week rolls over. The songs That Are Featured, Are still competing for rank but only for that week.
F.A Lookout Team. They make the wrongs Right. If a song is Submitted and its agreed upon the community that its Just Pre-rendered Loops. It should be segregated into A page with all alike. In order to Make the most space upfront for those that are really Attempting to develop their Craft. we need to get rid of the Tracks that are subjectable to being without all four: substance, thought, Effort, or Uniqueness and the only tracks that lack all four Qualities are the tracks that are made-up completely by Drawing down Pre-rendered samples. It may be unfair but Most Browsing for new Music are not looking for Generic Mediocre Tunes made by users that only Select, Copy and Paste.

At 7/3/06 09:28 AM, DarKsidE555 wrote:

Tho its not definite, we at the office have been going back and forth on how to impliment a daily top 5 for the audio portal.I dont think showing just two is enough anyways. Hopefully it will come to light and give the Audio Portal the much deserved light needs to thrive.

30...one for each genre

At 4/26/07 12:25 PM, SBB wrote:

At 4/26/07 12:22 PM, hellsmaw18 wrote: i think the AP would probably get more hits as the FP if they were about the same way. having the ability to blam or blow the whistle on suspected audio could give a definate edge to keep pirates who openly has the ability to post stolen audio at bay.

True but now instead of zero voters, we'd have to deal with blammers blamming our music so it's gone instead of just having a bad score.

At 5/6/07 06:45 PM, Envy wrote: True but now instead of zero voters, we'd have to deal with blammers blamming our music so it's gone instead of just having a bad score.

If a song deserves it, it would get blammed....

With xp points there would be more people voting positively so a few people trying to blam a song wouldn't be enough and the scores would even out.

plus the admins could see a blamming pattern and ban the user, and IP. The blam/protect scheme works for flash, so why not audio.

how about a standalone player that pops up when you click the audio portal - defaulted to off of course - and doesnt pop up again if its alread y open - that way people can cycle thru said artists and they will KNOW there is an audio player there - cuz if you stick an audio player on the front page with no music on it - i guarantee 99% of ngs ppl wont even realize its there - i mean - come on - we all know noone reads - most ppl dont even see the "audio portal" button for crying out loud..

At 5/23/07 06:35 PM, Chronamut wrote: how about a standalone player that pops up when you click the audio portal...

or possibly have it directly open in winamp or something. would be even better yet. sides, it would greatly reduce the need for redownloading the song just to play in the local media player, that and much needed bandwidth.

At 5/7/07 06:46 PM, ListenToMyMusic wrote: plus the admins could see a blamming pattern and ban the user, and IP. The blam/protect scheme works for flash, so why not audio.

agreed. the admins could see a single IP go to many songs and just blam them for no reason of cause and the user who is doing that can have his/her IP permanently blocked and account erased. it is definately sad to see all of our own work wasted because of someone consistantly blamming them with no reason of cause what so ever.

At 5/23/07 07:02 PM, hellsmaw18 wrote:

At 5/23/07 06:35 PM, Chronamut wrote: how about a standalone player that pops up when you click the audio portal...

or possibly have it directly open in winamp or something. would be even better yet. sides, it would greatly reduce the need for redownloading the song just to play in the local media player, that and much needed bandwidth.

bad idea - not everyone has winamp - putting it in a self ocntained standalone player like the one ON the audio page would ensure everyone could listen to it - then u dont have to worry about winamp loading up - or possibly replacing the song you are currently listennig to - and you can just click the new window off.