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Hello my friends, i have recently been thinking of a thoughtful idea for the newgrounds audio portal. Allowing peaple that aren't logged on to vote (Including non-Ng members) why? Usually are hard work has been downvoted mostly by people who i call "Arseholes". Our work is usually downrated by people who rate our music unfairly just because it's not their taste of music, or because of the title, or maybe for the heck of it! If we allow non-NG members to vote our music. They would probably rate it fairly (Since they're not of competition to be the best of the Ng audio portal), but what if they would be to rate it a 0/5 like the other unfair raters? Well let's see, if you rate a song logged on the rating of the song will go down by the Voting Power the rater has. If you rate logged off, or not as a ng member, it will only go down slightly, or it will increase slightly. So those people can download our music, but also rate it by their freewill. If some of you don't know i live in Iran, and take english classes for next four years i will be heading to america for a future career. Thankyou for reading now i must get back to my homework. May Allah be with you :)

Hmm. I don't quite think that would work - because if you didn't need an account to vote, then scoring would be all even worse because of all the people who could vote and who would 0 vote random songs or 5 vote their friends' songs because of an unreasonable bias or for no reason at all whatsoever. I think it could be a good idea, but their voting power would have to be significantly diminished. Something like half or one quarter of a normal vote.

I think certin music in the audio portal should get BLAMED like in the flash portal.

At 2/7/07 09:51 PM, AndrewGlisson11 wrote: I think certin music in the audio portal should get BLAMED like in the flash portal.

Certain*, and blammed*.

Learn to spell >:[

At 2/7/07 09:51 PM, AndrewGlisson11 wrote: I think certin music in the audio portal should get BLAMED like in the flash portal.

Imagine all the zero voters.

They wont be called zero voters.

They'll be called massacre blammers.

Imagine having every and any piece of music you submit blammed at it's very conception.

Good idea still?

Why not just use the seven-number ranking that vgmix is using? It's psychologically more accurate for us--something about polarity of choice between 1-5 is much higher than between 1-7. It's easier for us to find a midpoint of 1-7 than 1-5 (in other words, people wont just vote 0 or 5.)

Polarity?

Moron number one doesnt zero vote a song because the number appeals to him, it's because he hates the piece of trash and wants it off the charts.

Merely increasing the scale would make zero voters a little more anal.

dont know if this has been suggested yet, but a flash application sort of like NGAP Radio would be cool. only have it be bigger, and look like a hybrid between the flash portal, and iTunes. So you would have all of your personal playlists on the left column that would save to your cookies. and then there would be three columns in the main area for browsing all the top music, and most recently submitted music. and then if you were to click on something all the info would appear along the top with a timeline, player controls, and an option to vote and review, or add to one of your playlists.
this would take a lot of action script but I think it would be really cool. Also to make it in real time so you wouldn't have to keep refreshing to see new songs.

hey what if it only one download counts per person

Wait, wait ,wait. This thread is 10 pages long filled with ideas. Now the thing is Witch ones are going to be implemented in the AP update? Also how long, will it be when the rest of the site updates? If so when we are gonna wait a few months.

At 2/12/07 04:54 PM, Hiniberus-Delius wrote: Wait, wait ,wait. This thread is 10 pages long filled with ideas. Now the thing is Witch ones are going to be implemented in the AP update?

-none-

At 2/12/07 04:57 PM, SBB wrote:

-none-

If so then this thread servs no purpose and should be deleted if none of them are going to be implemented.

At 2/13/07 08:24 AM, Hiniberus-Delius wrote:

At 2/12/07 04:57 PM, SBB wrote:

-none-

If so then this thread servs no purpose and should be deleted if none of them are going to be implemented.

*sigh*...If you don't understand the meaning of this thread, maybe because of the fact that you obviously haven't read the starting post I have only one advice for you...

DON'T POST IN IT!

This thread is for gathering ideas what could be changed in the AP. It's up to the admins what things will be realized and what things not. This thread is not for to answer WHEN those changes will come.

Back in 2005 they asked for suggestions too and its been two years since then. I remember when they were gona end ParagonX9's monopoly on the tunes played on the audio page when they asked people for small clips to be added tot he player...

The simple fact is NG does not give a rats ass about the Audio Portal. This is a flash oriented website and they audio portal is only ment to fuel the flash's needs.

I personally would love to see the Flash Blam system implimented in the Audio Portal along with daily rankings...having to listen to songs to vote on em ect...

Will this or anything special ever happen for the Audio Portal...

I highly doubt it...

At 2/13/07 04:02 PM, ngguy11 wrote:
I highly doubt it...

*sigh*...

O RLY!?

At 2/13/07 04:22 PM, DarKsidE555 wrote:

At 2/13/07 04:02 PM, ngguy11 wrote:
I highly doubt it...

*sigh*...

O RLY!?

That needs to be pinned to the audio portal page then, cause that's seriously really important right there.

Anyways, if this has been stated, I apologize, but this needs to happen.

-A better system for voting stolen items off the site needs to be put into place. I'm tired of seeing people putting up their "Pirates of the Caribbean" soundtracks onto their page. That is copyrighted music, and costs money, no one should benefit from that except for the producer of the music, and the consumer of that music, the producer by selling, the consumer just by listening. Stolen music has become a big problem, I can point out at least one artist that has many stolen things on his account right now. This is wrong.

-The solution? Admins watching the portal.
-A voting button to report stolen songs IMMEDIATELY vs. a button to report stolen songs that doesn't actually work.
-IP Banning from the Audio Portal for stolen submissions.

-This is a serious problem. What worries me more is that people actually DOWNLOAD STOLEN SUBMISSIONS! What kind of community is the audio portal becoming that it deviates from it's true purpose. To serve flash artists through self created music, original works for anyone to use freely. If this can't be dealt with, the audio portal is easily at risk for corruption.

My suggestion would be to make it easier to find good stuff on NG audio... i found it hard to click into a genre, it would be better if it could be like flash portal where there is a list of highest votes and maybe another list of most downloaded... once again i just found it hard to find stuff... as of now it seems like i go into NG audio and just randomly clink a song...

At 2/13/07 10:53 PM, BgBdBrowsk wrote: My suggestion would be to make it easier to find good stuff on NG audio... i found it hard to click into a genre, it would be better if it could be like flash portal where there is a list of highest votes and maybe another list of most downloaded... once again i just found it hard to find stuff... as of now it seems like i go into NG audio and just randomly clink a song...

there´s a search bar underneath the "Weekly top 5" in the ap. You can search by author, but also by description detail. It might help you some.

Perhaps this was brought up before, and if it was I'm sorry to beat a dead horse...

With the changes to the Audio Portal, and the face of NG, as well (so I've heard), why not feature other songs on the Audio Pagethat include more than just Paragon's?

If more artists are heard, then they'll get more publicity. And, of course, the music should be checked before making the page, perhaps for the day or two. I know you don't want some half-assed song making it on the front page, let alone getting more than necessary publicity that should go to a more... deserving artist.

Is this too complicated to fix?

I have some.

Order by: Name, Date, Rating, Genre

How about also add

Order by: Downloads, Reviews, Submissions used in. And so on? That would be a great add. Sometimes I like looking at my music's statistics to see what music people like and so on

1. Add a daily top 5.

2. Add favorites for songs and authors.

3. Leave us more room to add comments.

4. Allow us to change comments after left.

5. Allow us to remove music.

6. Give more GLORY in audio! It can be just as hard and harder than flash!
6a. See 1.
6b. Give more credit when used in a submission (such as song name too).
6c. Add audio things such as contests.

7. Allow unregistered users to vote.

8. Give better and more in-depth statistics (ex. times played)

9. Give more awards for audio than just gold, platinum, etc.

10. Actually pick good audio for the A-Bot submissions and top 5, not just random submissions.

11. Add more detailed categories.

12. Give ALBUM ART!

13. Allow artists to choose the mp3 tag Album or allow people to choose the name of their album.

14. Create a Newgrounds Audio Podcast.

15. Allow more thing to be done on the audio forum (ex. "review my music" because nobody ever looks at audio advertisements).

16. On your user-page, have an audio review section similar to the video review section.

17. Add thumbnail views to the audio portal.

18. Have the audio portal display more than just recent songs (ex. best weekly, top rated, etc.).

19. Allow for songs over 4,000 megs.

20. Listen to some of my suggestions.

Hope this helps!
-Navij11

I'd like to suggest something! When you go to » Respond to Reviews part in the Audio portal options on your profile. Make it so you don't get confused at which one has latest reviews and which has oldest

Like. I always want to see new reviews. But I have 4 pages of music and I just can't look through them all when a new review comes up. So make the reviews be sorted by date or something

Sorry for double posting. I have to add some more

How about where a song has recommendation points? Each NG user (IP wise as well) can recommend only one song once a day. So each day you can only recommend one song. And there would also be a

Sort By: Most Recommended

Added to each person's audio portal? The more recommendation points the music has. The more people will want to try it?

Also you could make a person have a separate portal (Like on DA. Art and Junk) where the author can add their songs to "Most recommended" so each user can just go to the person's audio portal. Click "See songs most recommended by the author" so when they click it. A small list of tracks appear (like 5 or 10) of the most recommended songs by the author? The author can pick which songs will move to the recommended section

At 3/16/07 06:48 PM, Arnas wrote: Also you could make a person have a separate portal

there is never a need for a separate portal, but your idea is good.

IN ORDER TO RATE/DOWNLOAD U MUST REVIEW FIRST =D

At 3/16/07 07:19 PM, n1k-mUg wrote: IN ORDER TO RATE/DOWNLOAD U MUST REVIEW FIRST =D

If that were the case, audio artists would either get little to no reviews on their songs, or tons that they'd have to shift through every time they're looking to respond to a friend's review. >_< Instead...

I came up with this voting system idea on another thread... and I thought I'd post it here. I expanded on it as well.

There would be no anonymous voting system. Instead, there would be two review systems: a long one, Reviews, and a short one, Comments. Audio artists would be able to respond to both. Comments would work similarly to reviews except there's only an overall score and, since they're comments, the character limit would be much smaller. They would count as your vote. And since they're not anonymous (maybe there could be a link to a user's comment history working similarly to reviews) the zero voters would be found and there would be a way to stop them. (Maybe comments - reviews too, actually - would have a "Did you find this review/comment useful?" system and it would be possible to flag audio reviews/comments as abusive as well.)

That's it. I think I might be onto something with this idea... :)

yeh showing what users voted what

I'd like to be able to delete some of my older stuff, it sucks that people can view your really old terrible stuff and get the wrong impression about you. The artists should have more control over their work.

A weekly top 5 suggestion: Make one track per person win. If some person wins two spots 1st and 2nd for example. The second wont count because they shouldn't have two submissions that made it to the top. But that's just what I think would be better >_>

At 3/14/07 12:36 AM, Arnas wrote: I'd like to suggest something! When you go to » Respond to Reviews part in the Audio portal options on your profile. Make it so you don't get confused at which one has latest reviews and which has oldest

Like. I always want to see new reviews. But I have 4 pages of music and I just can't look through them all when a new review comes up. So make the reviews be sorted by date or something

and I still say they need a review bot to notify us when we have new reviews.. and for which song.. that or when you click on "respond to your reviews" in your gold account.. have new indicators beside the songs that have new reviews.. cuz ya like he said.. most of us have many pages of audio now.. its no longer fun or.. convenient to wade thru them all - I know "I" dont have the time nemore..