My Reason For Disliking Minorities

[JMHX]

I'm not a very hateful kind of guy, outside of parody threads anyone with a brain stem ought to know are fake. But this got me.

I've been in the market for an apartment in Northern Virginia for a few months now. I had very low requests - a bed that can fit two people, a kitchen, rent that won't force me to sell drugs in the off season. I was priced out of the market for the most part - $1300 per month in some areas for a 650 square foot place. However, I found a beautiful place for about half that much, and it was right where I could access everything I was looking for.

I call.
Ring ring.
I give them my information.
They say they'll call me back.

I get a phone call informing me that the apartment complex I have applied for is a low-income or disadvantaged complex. I ask what this means. She tells me, surprisingly bluntly, "Poor people and minorities, you have too much income to live here."

I've never been told I have too much money to afford something.

So basically, this prime real-estate near the Metro and school is off-limits to people with income above poverty level, and white people. This shocks me, because I figured that racism and classism were wrong. That's what they told me in school, at least. However, it's only wrong if you're a white person.

Goddamnit.

[stafffighter]

Simple rules of physics, or alchemy, you can't give to one without taking from another. The simple fact of the matter is that you have options on where to live and many of the people these addmittiedly questionable services provide do not.

[VigilanteNighthawk]

I have the feeling that minorities was being conflated with poor. Qualification is likely income based. Minorities meeting the income level may get preferential treatment over whites meeting it, but I think you'd be just as screwed if you were black and at the same level of income.

Good luck on the housing front.

[lapis]

The answer is quite simple: see if you can obtain a forged Mexican passport somewhere and then apply under the name Pablo Jimenez. Don't overdo the accent, and wear a sombrero and a big black fake moustache every time you meet with people form the real estate agency and you should be fine, just fine. You could really turn this situation into an advantage you know.

[JMHX]

I thought it was just income, too, but the Fairfax board apparently voted to allow minorities and low-income people the opportunities to live in all of the choicest housing places, so I am left to look at things which are either too far from where I need or in the $1250 - 1500 price range per month.

[psycho-squirrel]

At 7/3/06 02:14 AM, JudgeMeHarshX wrote:

it's only wrong if you're a white person.

Goddamnit.

dont blame minorities. blame political correctness. tight ass rich white poloticians make the whole thing of "only whites cant show racisim or anything negative to minorities at all"

[SakeSam]

"At 7/3/06 02:36 AM, JudgeMeHarshX wrote:

I thought it was just income, too, but the Fairfax board apparently voted to allow minorities and low-income people the opportunities to live in all of the choicest housing places, so I am left to look at things which are either too far from where I need or in the $1250 - 1500 price range per month."

Then maybe you should move to Hayedenlake were you belong

[fli]

At 7/3/06 02:34 AM, lapis wrote: ...Pablo Jimenez...
...accent...
...sombrero...
...moustache...

And here I'm trying to work my way up by:

Changing my name to "Robert Rockerfeller Smith."

Speaking. Every. Letter. And. Word. Just. Like. This.

Use "I" incorrectly in place of "me."

Eat more beef stroganoff...

Well now... I've been so wrong... I should have just stayed Mexican...

[bakem0n0]

It all comes back to: Politically Correct is an oxymoron.

The idea behind it is flawless, but it's just impossible to force equal status . . . so we do the best we can. The people who set this up probably meant for the best, dispite the fact that it's obviously unfair to an impartial obsever . . .

Life just sucks that way.

[Memorize]

It's always seemed to me that White lower middle class people have it worse than say, black upper, poor class people.

For the black poor person, they can get into stuff like that. The white guy is too rich to get things like that and too poor to afford anything of value.

[JMHX]

At 7/3/06 04:08 AM, fli wrote:

At 7/3/06 02:34 AM, lapis wrote: ...Pablo Jimenez...
...accent...
...sombrero...
...moustache...

And here I'm trying to work my way up by:

Changing my name to "Robert Rockerfeller Smith."

I love you, Fli, you're the hardest working quasi-immigrant in the world.

[Guitarmy]

At 7/3/06 02:36 AM, JudgeMeHarshX wrote: I thought it was just income, too, but the Fairfax board apparently voted to allow minorities and low-income people the opportunities to live in all of the choicest housing places, so I am left to look at things which are either too far from where I need or in the $1250 - 1500 price range per month.

Pfft, just sell drugs to those places.

[bradford1]

So basically, this prime real-estate near the Metro and school is off-limits to people with income above poverty level, and white people. This shocks me, because I figured that racism and classism were wrong. That's what they told me in school, at least. However, it's only wrong if you're a white person.

You are an idiot!

Low-Income Housing is design so the poor can always afford a place to live, not so you can be a greedy landlord!

It is almost as if you want to destroy every institution that helps the poor.

[rainmaker]

At 7/3/06 02:55 PM, bradford1 wrote: You are an idiot!

How is he an idiot? He's right!

Low-Income Housing is design so the poor can always afford a place to live, not so you can be a greedy landlord!

But, they use classification of minorities AND lower-income families as an excuse. That sounds rather discriminitory, no? Granted, it may be HELPING low-income minorities, but it is certainly HURTING low-income caucasions! Plus, it's using classification as a method of acheiving that goal!

It is almost as if you want to destroy every institution that helps the poor.

If it helps just minorities, sure, fuck 'em all. They have the same potential of success as I do in this country, damnit, why can't they help a poor white person?

[No-one-inparticular]

Awwww, Judge.
Don't feel sad.
You can live with me in the forest, in my van.
I have a ditch on my property......and lotion.

[VigilanteNighthawk]

At 7/3/06 03:18 PM, -Rainmaker- wrote:

At 7/3/06 02:55 PM, bradford1 wrote:

But, they use classification of minorities AND lower-income families as an excuse. That sounds rather discriminitory, no? Granted, it may be HELPING low-income minorities, but it is certainly HURTING low-income caucasions! Plus, it's using classification as a method of acheiving that goal!

If I'm understanding JHMX correctly, low income whites are allowed to rent there as well. It seems that they allow all minorities to rent their, regardless of income, which is bullshit. I have an African American uncle who is the CEO of small computer company. Haven't seen him in awhile, but its easily safe to say the guy is clearing in the upper six figures. I see no reason why he should be able to rent a place like this, while JHMX can't.

[MeSmashie]

Easier solution… get a better job and live some where you can afford!!!

[rainmaker]

At 7/3/06 03:59 PM, VigilanteNighthawk wrote: If I'm understanding JHMX correctly, low income whites are allowed to rent there as well. It seems that they allow all minorities to rent their, regardless of income, which is bullshit. I have an African American uncle who is the CEO of small computer company. Haven't seen him in awhile, but its easily safe to say the guy is clearing in the upper six figures. I see no reason why he should be able to rent a place like this, while JHMX can't.

Well, low-income whites were not allowed to rent there. That's why JMHX posted this in the first place.

[fli]

At 7/3/06 12:26 PM, JudgeMeHarshX wrote: I love you, Fli, you're the hardest working quasi-immigrant in the world.

Oh well--
I'm just one generation and one country away from 3rd World Country Living...

Okay.
Many things do appear fucked up.

But it's not like people in my age in my demographic group are as well off compared to our counterparts. A first generation Chicano like me would be 1.) working at McDonalds, 2.) not graduated from high school, 3.) working for baby's mama.

People have told me about American Dreams since I was a kid, that all you have to do is work hard and you'll get everything. But I know that's partially BS.

Part is 1.) being born with it, and 2.) working for it. While someone like me can work for it without being born with it... and still not be successful. The same is true about being born with it, but not working for it.

I was really lucky that I had the drive not to fall into the messed up shit that my friends fell into. Man, I was so afraid about being a crazy ass cholo vato with a bad drug habbit... I was 21 when I first took my first drink.

People like me have to sacrafice some of our culture to get to where we want to be. Read the sad memoirs of Hunger of Memory : The Education of Richard Rodriguez ... To be a Condi, or a Powell, or an Albert Gonzalez... you got to be Whitified to a large extent to achieve American Dream.

But whatever.
And in sincerity...
I feel for you.

But you have much more opportunities than the poor minority family that will receive that house. Hopefully,

That should reconcile you immensely.

[MortifiedPenguins]

At 7/3/06 05:28 PM, fli wrote:

At 7/3/06 12:26 PM, JudgeMeHarshX wrote:

But you have much more opportunities than the poor minority family that will receive that house. Hopefully,

That should reconcile you immensely.

You know..

If I changed my family history and said that I was 1/8 Mohegan.

I could get into Harvard.

Instead of the University of Massachusetts.

[Elfer]

At 7/3/06 02:36 AM, JudgeMeHarshX wrote: I thought it was just income, too, but the Fairfax board apparently voted to allow minorities and low-income people the opportunities to live in all of the choicest housing places, so I am left to look at things which are either too far from where I need or in the $1250 - 1500 price range per month.

Yes, see, this is what they call "real estate"

If something is in a good location, it will cost you more money to live in it.

The low income housing is usually there with the objective of allowing poor people to stay there until they become un-poor.

Don't like it, either drive your ass over to where you need to go, or move the fuck out of the city.

[F-8-L-E-T]

At 7/3/06 02:14 AM, JudgeMeHarshX wrote:

:stuff

Yah.. god bless the So called land of the free

[LordDarlington]

dont blame minorities. blame political correctness. tight ass rich white poloticians make the whole thing of "only whites cant show racisim or anything negative to minorities at all"

At the urging and lobbying of radical and racist "rights" movements. It gets them votes.

[JMHX]

At 7/3/06 07:32 PM, Elfer wrote:

At 7/3/06 02:36 AM, JudgeMeHarshX wrote:

Don't like it, either drive your ass over to where you need to go, or move the fuck out of the city.

LOL OHKAY I WILL DROP OUT OF KOLLEGE LOLZ

[Elfer]

At 7/3/06 08:28 PM, JudgeMeHarshX wrote:

At 7/3/06 07:32 PM, Elfer wrote:

At 7/3/06 02:36 AM, JudgeMeHarshX wrote:

Don't like it, either drive your ass over to where you need to go, or move the fuck out of the city.

LOL OHKAY I WILL DROP OUT OF KOLLEGE LOLZ

Oh, in that case, either live in residence or take a fucking loan like everybody else has to to finance their god damn education.

Seriously, if you want a 650 square foot apartment, that's in livable condition, which is in close proximity to a college, in fucking Fairfax, of course you're going to be shelling out 15 bills a month. It's not the minorities' fault you decided to go to college there.

[stafffighter]

At 7/3/06 08:47 PM, Elfer wrote: It's not the minorities' fault you decided to go to college there.

No, it was his desires towards his education.

[JMHX]

At 7/3/06 08:47 PM, Elfer wrote:

Oh, in that case, either live in residence or take a fucking loan like everybody else has to to finance their god damn education.

I fail to see how it's any kind of equality that someone on welfare can get to my college on a completely free ride, and have discounted housing in the city itself, while people like myself, who work to finance our college time without the burdens of loans, have enough money to pay for the housing but are turned away because we are self-sufficient.

In America, you can both have welfare AND go to college?

It truly is the land of opportunity.

[JMHX]

I can back some assistance to low income people, but it's completely arbitrary that they've also included a minority clause in it so that minority poor have preference over any other kind of poor.

[fli]

At 7/3/06 07:19 PM, Fenrus1989 wrote: You know..
If I changed my family history and said that I was 1/8 Mohegan.
I could get into Harvard.
Instead of the University of Massachusetts.

If I was Caucasion and had several generations of family on US soil...
I could get into Harvard too...

I think I can say we're equal in respects of this topic. JMHX "hates" minorities who get opportunities reserved only for them... because it's unequal and indeed fucked up.

and I "hate" Whites who can't see that minorities need an extra edge to get out of their problems that unequally effects them compared to their White counterparts...

However, in these cases there are two evils... and what does a person do in the face of them?

Choose the lesser--

So which one is less evil?
Removing the the small and unequal opportunities reserved for minorities for the sake of immediate equality?

Or...

Giving minorities unfairly opportunities which would empower them which would eventually lead a truer equal representation in our Democracy?

I see the second as the lesser evil.