Pro life or pro choice?

[Butcer2]

My opinon is that pro life people are stupid faggotry retarted inbreding bushmongering rednecks christains fanatics

You own your body and also what ever the fuck grows inside you no matter at what time yeah no metter what at time and im not joking

[VigilanteNighthawk]

Please have a point when making posts. What you did is called an ad hominem, its mistakingly attacking a person instead of a position. That sort of thing does not work well here.

[superstick]

I am pro choice.

[RedScorpion]

At 6/30/06 06:25 PM, VigilanteNighthawk wrote: Please have a point when making posts. What you did is called an ad hominem, its mistakingly attacking a person instead of a position. That sort of thing does not work well here.

Yes. Please learn to have some maturity when posting here, Butcer.

[TrickySoup]

I am pro choice.

[Freemind]

I am personally pro-life but I don't think it is my place to force what I consider to be moral on other people.

[xXDathDalerXx]

pro life,but i'de whipe out half of the world population if given the chance...for the betterment of mankind of course.

killing an embrio is the same no matter how you look at it,wheather it's inside or out

[HighlyIllogical]

Pro-choice. Why not? A woman has the RIGHT to choose and no other persons should decide for her.

[rainmaker]

I'm pro-choice, but wow, me and you sharing a common opinion makes me want to commit suicide.

[Me-Patch]

Is a baby a part of a womens body? My answer to that is no so Im pro-life. It has nothing to do with Christianity or Bush, it's an issue of infanticide.

[Thespus]

At 7/1/06 12:25 PM, Freemind wrote: I am personally pro-life but I don't think it is my place to force what I consider to be moral on other people.

So, in essence, you're pro choice?

[Indian-Wrestler]

woah, whats with all the hate, my friends are pro-life and I still respect them. Theres no need for hate words here, keep that in general

[Freemind]

At 7/1/06 02:13 PM, Thespus wrote:

At 7/1/06 12:25 PM, Freemind wrote: I am personally pro-life but I don't think it is my place to force what I consider to be moral on other people.

So, in essence, you're pro choice?

I dunno, I guess you could view it either way. I just wish people would take responsibilty for the shit they do, thats it.

[natwel]

I'm definately pro choice. a child costs about £5000 a year to raise and if you are a teen you can't really afford that.

Science has prooved that up to 5 months, foetus's can't feel any pain so killing them wouldn't cause suffering, not like their brain is developed enough to realise this suffering and cringe over it anyway.

If a man with a house, job, family were killed it would be comdemable because his family are hurt, would be under financial strain and had lots going for him etc. But killing a foetus is like killing an insect it's not gonna do any major damage is it?

[JakeHero]

At 7/1/06 06:39 PM, natwel wrote: I'm definately pro choice. a child costs about £5000 a year to raise and if you are a teen you can't really afford that.

Not really.

Science has prooved that up to 5 months, foetus's can't feel any pain so killing them wouldn't cause suffering, not like their brain is developed enough to realise this suffering and cringe over it anyway.

I am pretty much pro-choice until the first and second trimester, but I don't see how anyone with any morality can be for partial-birth abortion. The same for the moral monstrocities who are in favor of retroactive abortion.

If a man with a house, job, family were killed it would be comdemable because his family are hurt, would be under financial strain and had lots going for him etc. But killing a foetus is like killing an insect it's not gonna do any major damage is it?

Killing a retarded person won't hurt anything since they won't contribute anything to society.

[Arauthator]

I feel that way about some people on Newgrounds.

[Neoptolemus]

Just for general knowledge:
An embryo is there upto about 8 weeks and then the fetal stage begins.
What pro-choice/pro-life arguments are based on is what one really considers a person. Seeing as an embryo has to form of human characteristics (except DNA) like physical features it therefore should not be considered a person.
I am personally pro-choice. I do not see the point in trying to deny a woman the ability to make her own decisions about her own body (and all that reside in it). To deny a woman this is to deny a woman the most basics of human rights.
Anyway, generally all those that are "pro-life" tend to come from a religious background and seeing as religion shouldn't really have anything to do with the laws of a country therefore any form of religious stance should be ignored.

[fahrenheit]

At 7/1/06 06:39 PM, natwel wrote: I'm definately pro choice. a child costs about £5000 a year to raise

Maybe if you feed the child dog food and cloth them with dish rags.

and if you are a teen you can't really afford that.

Actually a teen living in a one bedroom apartment with no car could afford about 6,300 USD on a child a year. Not to mention the tax deductions, child payments from the father (assuming he left, which in a lot of cases teen fathers do).
In the states the lowest minimum wage is $3.20 an hour. If they drop out of school then thats about $192.00 a week, or if you have another job for an additonal 5 hours (thats work from 6 AM to 9 PM) than thats 96$ more a week. $1152 a month, $13824 a year. And thats on the lowest salary, where I live the minimum wage is 5.40 (last I heard) so a teen would be able to afford it. But they would have to work over 4300 hours a year.

But killing a foetus is like killing an insect it's not gonna do any major damage is it?

The argument is not that it wont hurt the foetus or society, but that the child could potentially become something. It could have a good life, or a horrible one.

I personally am a little bit of both. If a women gets knocked up on accident (to lazy to use condoms, or something else that could have easily been done) but can afford the child, then she has to keep it (or adoption). But say a teenager gets raped, or has a child at an early age could be allowed to get an abortion.

[SilentHavoc13]

At 7/1/06 07:26 PM, JadedSoB wrote:

Killing a retarded person won't hurt anything since they won't contribute anything to society.

I'd watch what you say about that. Havent you ever seen Rainman?

[jesusburger]

i love life like anyone should, but at times i would like to end it.

[Mooperty]

I'm pro-life. Plain and simple.

Why?

Even though the fetus resides in the mother, it still has the potential to become a human, and is a living being. Unless the fetus was concieved through rape or something along those lines, the only reason I can see for an abortion otherwise is because the mother is a lazy skank who can't keep her legs closed.

And mr. author: don't baselessly insult, it makes you look like an arrogant asshole.

[JakeHero]

At 7/1/06 09:17 PM, SilentHavoc13 wrote:

I'd watch what you say about that. Havent you ever seen Rainman?

Rainman wasn't retarded. He was autistic.

[Jose]

At 7/1/06 10:45 PM, JadedSoB wrote:

At 7/1/06 09:17 PM, SilentHavoc13 wrote:

I'd watch what you say about that. Havent you ever seen Rainman?

Rainman wasn't retarded. He was autistic.

There is no such thing as mentally retarded disease.

A lot of mental disorders have side effects of mental retardation. Yeah, and autistic people can be mentally retarded.

[JakeHero]

At 7/1/06 11:12 PM, -Jose- wrote: There is no such thing as mentally retarded disease.

A lot of mental disorders have side effects of mental retardation. Yeah, and autistic people can be mentally retarded.

Ahh no, mental retardation is not a disorder. It means that a person was born with a subpar brain overall.

Autistic is a disorder that renders the victim extremely hard-pressed to communicate.

I stay by what I say. It doesn't matter if you dispose of a retarded person, they won't contribute anything to society. Or at least anything significant.

[Zen444]

Pro-Choice.

Too many god damn crying babies at my place of eating.

[x-Toadenalin-x]

At 7/1/06 09:32 PM, Mooperty wrote: Even though the fetus resides in the mother, it still has the potential to become a human, and is a living being.

Every time anyone masturbates, their sperm has the potential to become a living being. In order to have a consistant argument, you need to accept that masturabtion is wrong in the same way abortion is.

Plants and animals are also living beings. Yet you eat them. In order to have a consistant argument, you also need to accept that you can no longer eat meat or plant products and derivatives.

Your argument is baseless, and appeals to the lowest common denominator of intellect.

[EtovaKala]

I laugh at these pro-lifers. Mainly because some of them also believe in capitol punishment.

[White-hole]

Id say that the baby becomes hhuman when it starts to develop lungs the heart and then brain and should be allowed to live once it reachs that stage (unless it was conceived through rape).

[GraemeW]

At 7/1/06 06:39 PM, natwel wrote: I'm definately pro choice. a child costs about £5000 a year to raise and if you are a teen you can't really afford that.

Yeah, well maybe teens shouldn't be fucking so much, eh?

I am definitely pro-life, and I think that the only choice to be made is whether you keep your legs closed or not. The only cases where I can see abortion being somewhat ok, is 1. where the mother is in danger on dying from having the child or 2. if it was rape.

If you are a whore who sleeps around and you get pregnant, it's your own damn fault you got knocked up. Deal with it. You were a skank, and now you've got a kid (which is what happens when you have unprotected sex, believe it or not).

wheeeeeeeee

[arz756]

At 7/2/06 10:20 AM, EtovaKala wrote: I laugh at these pro-lifers. Mainly because some of them also believe in capitol punishment.

Abortion and Capital Punishment are completely different. One is a punishment for a crime caused by a person who choose to do something horrible, while abortion is just a person who chooses that they do not desire their potential child, and decides to terminate it.