Medical Marijuana

[Kemamine]

I don't see what the big deal with medical marijuana is. Lots of dumb kids get excited when they talk about it because its a drug, and representatives WE elected to represent US are being so stubborn about it. If it can help sick people, then why not approve of it? Doctors have used opiates (including the VERY addictive drug morphine), amphetamines, and ketamine for a while with very little controversey. And all these drugs are usually much more dengerous than marijuana. If people wouldn't be so stubborn, medical marijuana wouldn't be such a big deal.

[SPG-1]

It's such a big deal because everyone knows what it is. Unlike.... that other addictive drug you mentioned.

[Ted-Easton]

There's no problem with anything being medicinal.
They could make cyanide medicinal and I wouldn't care.
Doctors will only perscribe things where they are necessary, so why not make all the options open for doctors?

[Ted-Easton]

I don't have any problem with anything being medicinal. Doctors will only perscribe things where necessary, so we should give them all the options.

[Kemamine]

At 2/15/03 08:47 PM, Ted_Easton wrote: There's no problem with anything being medicinal.
They could make cyanide medicinal and I wouldn't care.
Doctors will only perscribe things where they are necessary, so why not make all the options open for doctors?

Making everything available for doctors would be an awful idea! There are so many quacks who will give people perscriptions to powerful drugs they don't really need, which could hurt more than harm the patients. Doctors are doing this now, and making more dangerous drugs available to them will push this even further. Giving doctors the option to perscribe marijuana would have to be closely regulated to minimize it falling into the wrong hands. This kind of regulation is also done with Ritalin, Prozac, and Aderoll.

[Sirterox]

Its not a question of why not use it, its a question of "do we need it"? And to answer that, we dont. Medical marijuana was sugested as a pain reliever. Only problem is that it makes the patient addicted to it and you have to smoke it so you would be trying to help the patient but killing them off at the same time. The people that sugested it were mostly people who smoke marijuana but dont want the potential threat of being caught. So we have a list: we dont need it, makes the patient addicted, and kills them off slowly. Instead of marijuana, we have these things called asprin and tylonol. Use one of those if your in pain or if the pain is not sevier, then you dont need anthing.

[Kemamine]

At 2/15/03 09:30 PM, Sirterox wrote: Its not a question of why not use it, its a question of "do we need it"? And to answer that, we dont. Medical marijuana was sugested as a pain reliever. Only problem is that it makes the patient addicted to it and you have to smoke it so you would be trying to help the patient but killing them off at the same time. The people that sugested it were mostly people who smoke marijuana but dont want the potential threat of being caught. So we have a list: we dont need it, makes the patient addicted, and kills them off slowly. Instead of marijuana, we have these things called asprin and tylonol. Use one of those if your in pain or if the pain is not sevier, then you dont need anthing.

I see your point, but I completely disagree with you. First off, marijuana is not a good pain reliever compared to asprin and ibproufien (sp?) tablets, which you can get at any drugstore. Medical marijuana should be used to treat glaucoma, anorexia, and vomiting. It can also help AIDS paitents keep their appetite up and help them live longer. Secondly, you don't necessarily have to smoke marijuana to get the full effects. THC, the active ingredient, can be extracted and processeed into pill form. This takes the risk on your lungs away. Lastly, marijuana is not a physically addictive drug like herion or cocaine. Although it can be psychologically habit-forming, this can be solved by giving paitents a limited supply of pills and closely regulating the dosage.

[Ted-Easton]

In pill form, it's no different than aspirin/tylenol. It's just a different chemical to produce the same result. Marijuana should be medicinalized in pill form only.

[Darkfang34]

Let them smoke it!

[Darkfang34]

At 2/15/03 10:54 PM, Ted_Easton wrote: In pill form, it's no different than aspirin/tylenol. It's just a different chemical to produce the same result. Marijuana should be medicinalized in pill form only.

cool

[iWalker]

At 2/15/03 09:53 PM, Kemamine wrote:

At 2/15/03 09:30 PM, Sirterox wrote: Its not a question of why not use it, its a question of "do we need it"? And to answer that, we dont. Medical marijuana was sugested as a pain reliever. Only problem is that it makes the patient addicted to it and you have to smoke it so you would be trying to help the patient but killing them off at the same time. The people that sugested it were mostly people who smoke marijuana but dont want the potential threat of being caught. So we have a list: we dont need it, makes the patient addicted, and kills them off slowly. Instead of marijuana, we have these things called asprin and tylonol. Use one of those if your in pain or if the pain is not sevier, then you dont need anthing.

I see your point, but I completely disagree with you. First off, marijuana is not a good pain reliever compared to asprin and ibproufien (sp?) tablets, which you can get at any drugstore. Medical marijuana should be used to treat glaucoma, anorexia, and vomiting. It can also help AIDS paitents keep their appetite up and help them live longer. Secondly, you don't necessarily have to smoke marijuana to get the full effects. THC, the active ingredient, can be extracted and processeed into pill form. This takes the risk on your lungs away. Lastly, marijuana is not a physically addictive drug like herion or cocaine. Although it can be psychologically habit-forming, this can be solved by giving paitents a limited supply of pills and closely regulating the dosage.

quite right kemamine
plus, ok smoking is bad for your health but it's not like you die of smoking a bit of weed.
not only is it helpfull with aidspatients it's also very helpfull for MS patients and a bunch of other diseases.
it's also very effective for ADHD-people (hyperactive people) Real adhd people they get all excited out of tranquilisers. weed on the other hand helps us to calm down in a natural way.

[Ted-Easton]

At 2/16/03 08:54 AM, nimmer wrote:

At 2/15/03 09:53 PM, Kemamine wrote:

plus, ok smoking is bad for your health but it's not like you die of smoking a bit of weed.

There- it's bad for your health. Why perscribe it to them in a form that hurts them when there's another, equally potent way that doesn't?
Refusing everything but in smoking form clearly points out that you don't want it as a pain reliever, you want it as weed.

[Sirterox]

At 2/15/03 11:12 PM, Darkfang34 wrote:

At 2/15/03 10:54 PM, Ted_Easton wrote: In pill form, it's no different than aspirin/tylenol. It's just a different chemical to produce the same result. Marijuana should be medicinalized in pill form only.

cool

They cant put it in pill form. Human stomach acids will delute the marijuana. Breaking it down to nothing and it wont do a thing.

[Ted-Easton]

A reference, please? I'd like to read where that comes from.

[Kemamine]

At 2/16/03 01:45 PM, Sirterox wrote:

They cant put it in pill form. Human stomach acids will delute the marijuana. Breaking it down to nothing and it wont do a thing.

No, that's not true. Marijuana can be put into brownies and eaten. And pills have already been made containing THC. Ingesting marijuana works, although not as well as smoking. The same is true with a varietry of other drugs.

[Ted-Easton]

If it doesn't work as well as smoking, then make it a more potent dose.

[thedirtiestjamocan]

At 2/15/03 08:18 PM, Kemamine wrote: I don't see what the big deal with medical marijuana is. Lots of dumb kids get excited when they talk about it because its a drug, and representatives WE elected to represent US are being so stubborn about it. If it can help sick people, then why not approve of it? Doctors have used opiates (including the VERY addictive drug morphine), amphetamines, and ketamine for a while with very little controversey. And all these drugs are usually much more dengerous than marijuana. If people wouldn't be so stubborn, medical marijuana wouldn't be such a big deal.

The big deal is that medical marijuana isnt the best drug to use for the diseases that it treats. There are many more treatments that are proven to be more effective than medical marijuana. I think that they should finish developing the medical marijuana that they've been working on that cannot get you high. Then we'll see who still wants it.

[thedirtiestjamocan]

On a somewhat related subject, after reading this, one of my dumb friends crushed up a bunch of ibuprofen tablets and smoked them in a homemade tin-foil pipe.

[Kemamine]

At 2/16/03 09:31 PM, thedirtiestjamocan wrote: On a somewhat related subject, after reading this, one of my dumb friends crushed up a bunch of ibuprofen tablets and smoked them in a homemade tin-foil pipe.

Did it work? I know you can shoot it and get a rush like you can with Oxycotin, but smoking it sounds like crackhead territory.

[thedirtiestjamocan]

At 2/16/03 09:34 PM, Kemamine wrote:

At 2/16/03 09:31 PM, thedirtiestjamocan wrote: On a somewhat related subject, after reading this, one of my dumb friends crushed up a bunch of ibuprofen tablets and smoked them in a homemade tin-foil pipe.

Did it work? I know you can shoot it and get a rush like you can with Oxycotin, but smoking it sounds like crackhead territory.

Well, he seemed pretty sedated. Still, he's always kind of that way. And yes, if he had gotten hold of an official crack pipe, he would have used that instead.

[Sweden-Forever]

weed rules

[JMHX]

At 2/15/03 11:11 PM, Darkfang34 wrote: Let them smoke it!

It's this kind of ignorance we could do without. As for legalizing medical marijuana? Sure. No problems by me. Of course I'm avoiding all of the legal and moral stuff, but just on opinion alone, go for it. We're headed down the tubes anyway.

[thedirtiestjamocan]

At 2/17/03 01:01 AM, JudgeMeHarshX wrote:

At 2/15/03 11:11 PM, Darkfang34 wrote: Let them smoke it!

It's this kind of ignorance we could do without. As for legalizing medical marijuana? Sure. No problems by me. Of course I'm avoiding all of the legal and moral stuff, but just on opinion alone, go for it. We're headed down the tubes anyway.

Yeah, that's a good point -- we are basically just a big enema headed toward the rectum of stupidity at this point...

[Best-Of]

At 2/16/03 11:26 PM, old_school_fat_strat wrote: weed rules

I think there should b some sorts of buildings for drug-users so they can do the drugs there, not being a threath to any1 else....
Ps:The half of the death in Europe is some CLOSE way related to smoking, mostly for smoking of self but sometimes also smoking of others....
There is only 1 safe ingredient is cigarettes....
Right now, I can't remember what that is....
Oh, and if u smoke, even when u don't get a cancer, ur child might......And some of the ingredients of smoke even contain radioactive parts....Think about it when u smoke....
Pps:Pure nicotine was used as poison before smoking was even brought to Europe.....1 dl of it will kill just any1.....

[Kemamine]

At 2/17/03 11:39 AM, Markus_Kangas wrote:

At 2/16/03 11:26 PM, old_school_fat_strat wrote: weed rules

I think there should b some sorts of buildings for drug-users so they can do the drugs there, not being a threath to any1 else....
Ps:The half of the death in Europe is some CLOSE way related to smoking, mostly for smoking of self but sometimes also smoking of others....
There is only 1 safe ingredient is cigarettes....
Right now, I can't remember what that is....
Oh, and if u smoke, even when u don't get a cancer, ur child might......And some of the ingredients of smoke even contain radioactive parts....Think about it when u smoke....
Pps:Pure nicotine was used as poison before smoking was even brought to Europe.....1 dl of it will kill just any1.....

wtf, we're talking about MARIJUANA, not tobacco! Tobacco is for idiots, and as far as I know, nicotine has very few medical uses, and none that cannot be matched by another drug. Read the whole thread before you reply, you silly goose!

[Kemamine]

And Markus_Kangas, let me see your source that says that half the death in Europe is caused by smoking tobacco. I don't know if it's true or not but I find it a big pill to swallow.

[Ted-Easton]

A building for drug users?
Either- PRO- Better for the public, safer for general populace, safer for drug users

CON- Supporting drug use, we should be trying to stop it in every way, waste of tax dollars.

I support the CON view. I'm not spending a cent to help druggies get their next hit in a warm building.

[JudgeDredd]

At 2/16/03 09:28 PM, thedirtiestjamocan wrote: The big deal is that medical marijuana isnt the best drug to use for the diseases that it treats.

exacly what diseases do you speak of??

here's Canadas criteria for the prescription of Marijuana;

Category 1: This category is for applicants who
have terminal illnesses with a prognosis of a
life span of less than 12 months.

Category 2: This category is for applicants who
suffer from specific symptoms associated with
certain serious medical conditions, namely:
Multiple Sclerosis, Spinal Cord Injury, Cancer: severe pain, cachexia, anorexia, weight loss,
and/or severe nausea AIDS/HIV infection: severe pain, cachexia, anorexia, weight loss, and/or severe nausea Severe forms of Arthritis: severe pain Epilepsy: seizures

Category 3: This category is for applicants who
have symptoms associated with a serious medical
condition.

other ways applicants can obtain medicinal marijuana:

- by applying for a license to grow your own marijuana by "Personal Use Production
License"

- by designating an individual to grow your marijuana
for you. by "Designated Person Production License"

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..as can be seen, mostly used in conjunction with chemotherapy where nausia leads to annorexia (the inability to keep anything down - including pills!)

smoking is a natural way to ingest the THC, much easier than injections, etc.

[OpIvy420]

I support medical marijuana use, as well as recreational marijuana use. If you look at the actual statistics (not the government-biased stats that say that everyone who smokes a bowl will spontaneously combust), not only is weed less dangerous than many other drugs perscribed by physicians, it is less dangerous than a lot of over-the-counter drugs, as well as Coca-Cola and coffee. There have been cases of marijuana helping fight diseases such as glaucoma and asthma, and anyone who has ever used it can tell you that it is a great pain reliever.

Some people have made the argument on this thread of "Do we need it?" We don't need it. There are a lot of other medications that could be used instead of marijuana. But should we just ban things for the sake of banning them?

[ZombieLennon]

Why are you guys bringing up addictiveness? Marijuana has been proven time and time again not to be an addictive, unlike Cigerettes. Besides, how often do you hear "So and so was killed in a car crash after smoking medical marijuana"