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At 7/8/06 05:39 PM, drDAK wrote:

At 7/8/06 04:49 PM, Ravariel wrote: I certainly hope you don't fall under the apparent right-wing stereotype of only caring about a life before it's born, and after that, tosing it to the wolves...?

I love how you refer to a living entity as "it".

There is no other gender-neutral singular pronoun in the english language... what would you have me say?

So, the motto for you is 'We don't know they have thoughts or feeling, so it is okay to kill them'. I don't know if you have thought or feeling, so in that sense, your life should mean little to me? That's not right.

More like: We know they dont have thoughts or feelings so it's no biggie if we kill it.

At 7/8/06 04:54 PM, gamemasterboy wrote:
I'd much rather be tossed to the wolves instead of murdered...

You'd rather a life of suffering and misery than have your life ended before it even began and spend eternity in Heaven? Not all of us are as masochistic as you.

and plus, there's plenty of people that want to adopt kids, trust me, it doesn't even need to be legal, you have sex, that's the consequence, think about that before you just do it.

You're advocating illegal adoptions? Just wow. FIX the adoption system and then let's talk about abortion regulation. Until you do that, I agree with the current set of laws.

It's an accurate thing to call a fetus before a certain point, for it's not determined what gender it is. Actually, if anything, call it she, because we are all morphologically female originally.

well gamemasterboy, ( by the way this is conb) i wouldnt care if i didnt get the chance of life on earth because if i was a fetus, i wouldnt know what earth is. and its a little to late. im already on earth! :)

At 6/27/06 04:51 PM, YoureAllStupid wrote: Personally, I feel abortion is perfectly fine as long as the woman's life is in danger. Only under that circumstance, though.

Amen- if the woman's life is in danger, then abortion should be ok

At 6/27/06 04:56 PM, elkrobber wrote: I belive abortion is only justified in extreme as fuck circumstances (mother is in danger/very young, child has been found to be severly disformed, rape, ect.)

Well, if she's very young its her fault, if it was rape and they kill it, they can't get DNA from it

The only good solution that there is for mothers who don't want the child is DON'T HAVE SEX or PUT IT UP FOR ADOPTION! Adoption has always been there and if those bitches (women who want abortions) don't want the child you can just go there and give it away

At 7/8/06 04:49 PM, Ravariel wrote: I gotta say, y'all are rather naively ignorant about the state of our adoption system. It can't handle the load it has right now... why on earth would you want to increase that load

what the hell are ya talkin bout! Down here in Texas -houston at least- I worked in several orpahnage, they've got plenty of room

At 6/28/06 07:14 AM, GSgt_Liberal wrote:

At 6/28/06 01:22 AM, AccessCode wrote:

At 6/27/06 09:12 PM, TayNikki wrote: A women has a right to do whatever she wants with her baby. But I personally wouldn't do it.

Yeah like that crazy bitch who drowned her kids.

No, that's not a legal method and it's cruel, because she's killing beings that can FEEL and COMPREHEND pain. Fetuses cannot do so.

How do you know? Have you been aborted? For all in hell that we know, they can- they're living, they move, they bleed- just like us developed people. Anyways that is pretty much the same thing, killing your children, killing your baby whats the diffrence?!

Who's mother hates them? Think of it this way- if she'd know she hate you, she'd probably get you aborted.

I think we should abort children who we know are going to be born with handicaps. (Ex. Premature births.)

Also, if the woman or family wants to abort thier kd, it's because they know that they're not going to be able to do a good job of raising it. Therefore when we make these people keep thier babies they will most likely be raised poorly and turn out to be failures.

At 6/27/06 04:51 PM, H-y-p-h-e-n wrote: Personally, I feel abortion is perfectly fine as long as the woman's life is in danger. Only under that circumstance, though.

wee, flame on!!

Agreed, people act like evry person who is raped gets pregnant. I agree that only when the woman's life is in danger should there be an abortion, if not, adoption is a lot beter than never living.

look, the main reason for all these abortions is because guys can't keep their dicks in their pants.

end of story.

for those that cant, i say make sure you dont make them kill a future kid.

Fellows, only 1% of abortions done in America are done because of life threating reasons. The definition of a living thing is something with at least 1 cell. Abortion is evil. Would you be here if your mom aborted you?

Abortion is good. There is no reason to let a child grow up to some parents that never really wanted it, can't take care of it, or will just throw it into some adoption home where the child will never have a normal life. Plus it just adds to the enourmous human population.

At 9/23/06 11:01 PM, fasdit wrote: Abortion is good. There is no reason to let a child grow up to some parents that never really wanted it, can't take care of it, or will just throw it into some adoption home where the child will never have a normal life. Plus it just adds to the enourmous human population.

By the reason, a dad should get the right to beat their kid too death, because they're simply unwanted.

At 9/23/06 11:01 PM, fasdit wrote: Abortion is good. There is no reason to let a child grow up to some parents that never really wanted it, can't take care of it, or will just throw it into some adoption home where the child will never have a normal life. Plus it just adds to the enourmous human population.

dude, what have you been smoking?

it would be better to allow the child to make its own choices.. give it to adoption and if it wants to kill itself let it. i do not understand why everyone believes abortion is any good. . human population? we could use some more smart people in this world

At 9/24/06 12:02 AM, Blamitality wrote: dude, what have you been smoking?

it would be better to allow the child to make its own choices.. give it to adoption and if it wants to kill itself let it. i do not understand why everyone believes abortion is any good. . human population? we could use some more smart people in this world

Picture a highschool relationship in a low income urban environment where the girl gets knocked up. Both these soon to be parents have no money or education and are now going to be responsible for someone else.
This new child is most likely going to have a shitty life living with his dead beat low life parents and become a dead beat lowlife himself. Isn't that just great?

COUGH adoption

Living in an adoption home would suck ass.

better than dying

How would you know if you never lived?

well, it wouldnt know because they're aborted before they find out

This is obviously a very controversial issue and I don't want it to turn into a hate fest so I'm just going to stop arguing. In my opinion I think that abortion should be the choice of the woman. Just my opinion though.

I myself don't believe I have any say in the matter, since it's the lady's body and all that. In my opinion, the legality of abortion shouldn't even be in question. It's a personal decision. If you think it's wrong, don't get one. Plain and simple.

Yea, I didn't read every post on all four pages...but I read many posts.

Why doesn't someone just come out and say it? Seperate yourself from your morals, and prove your point.

Yes, a fetus is a life. Biologically, it's human. If left alone, there's a high chance it will one day be just like you and I. A fetus is alive, and it is a life in the very fucking definition of the word. Stop playing semantics with the term 'alive', and fucking admit it.

A fetus is a life, and so the fuck what? I still support abortion. It ain't conscious life. It's not cognitive life. It's 'life' and 'alive' like a cat, or a squirrel is alive. In all honesty, a squirrel probably has more brain activity than a fetus in it's early stages.
You keep your 'value of human life' to yourself. We can admit that a fetus is a life, and still support it.

How bout the Pro Death stance.

The parents of the child (both of them) have to be able to prove that they will be capable of taking care of a child, as well as remain financially able to do so as well. If they can't do this, or if one of the parents is retarded or doesn't want the baby, then BAM, u abort it.

At 9/24/06 12:02 AM, Blamitality wrote: it would be better to allow the child to make its own choices..

Ofcourse, shall we put a mic up the womans cunt and let it speak?

give it to adoption

You know how orphants are being treated like?

SHIT!!!

and if it wants to kill itself let it.

Wow, YOU'VE smoked something strange today...

i do not understand why everyone believes abortion is any good. .

Lot's of reasons:

If a woman has been raped, especially people under 16-18.

If the parent(s) can't afford the child.

Etc.

human population?

That's one of the reasons, we're running out of space, simply.

we could use some more smart people in this world

Yep, but not all peoples are smart, you know! More than half of just the western world are dumb as hell.

At 9/24/06 11:52 AM, Denta wrote:

At 9/24/06 12:02 AM, Blamitality wrote: it would be better to allow the child to make its own choices..

Ofcourse, shall we put a mic up the womans cunt and let it speak?

What i MEANT was we should let it experience life to the point where it can make its own independent choices--not hoping it'll start blubbering like a dumbass out of the stomach. If the parents cant wait that long then... (see below)

give it to adoption

You know how orphants are being treated like?

SHIT!!!

still a chance at life.

and if it wants to kill itself let it.

Wow, YOU'VE smoked something strange today...

i dont think you see my point here. it doesnt MATTER what ive smoked (cough weed), but the point is, let it have choices for itself. anyone would choose life over death- there's always a good thing in life.

i do not understand why everyone believes abortion is any good. .

Lot's of reasons:

If a woman has been raped, especially people under 16-18.

If the parent(s) can't afford the child.

Etc.

rapes account for 1-2% of abortions overall--no excuse for the rest of em. AND ADOPTION for that second option.

human population?

That's one of the reasons, we're running out of space, simply.

We are not running out of space---there are still mass areas void of people (who wants deserts?).

we could use some more smart people in this world

Yep, but not all peoples are smart, you know! More than half of just the western world are dumb as hell.

that one i'll agree with you on. AMEN!

I think abortion is pefectly fine and anyone who says that it should be outlawed is completely idiotic. Fist of all, what if the women gets raped, and she gets pregnent, if she doesn't have an abortion then the baby will only cause her more pain, emotionally. If she doesn't want the baby and puts it into adoption what are the chances that it will be adopted? And a large number of adopted children get abused.

No one wants deserts actually. They are incapable of sustaining life without some serious use of man made equipment and drain on natural energy resources.

I think its right. A woman ending her unborn Childs life is her fucking choice not anyone else’s

At 9/24/06 03:30 PM, IndianaJamie wrote: I think its right. A woman ending her unborn Childs life is her fucking choice not anyone else’s

No one else should have....any say so?
Not even...the father?