IS FRANCE BEHIND THE US?

[NO-NAME]

IF WE DECLARE WAR ON IRAQ?

[Evanauto]

in a word, no.

in more than a word, who cares? france is a bunch of anti-semites anyway

[PrivatePartsxirbx]

France is interested in multibillion dollar oil contracts with iraq. and a multibillion dollar plan to build radio towers all over iraq for cellular communication.

They will loose these contracts if iraq was invaded and a new government was put into power.

they dont care about the people who would die in an invasion. Its about the billions to them.

German isnt currently supporting an invasion on iraq. This mainly has to do with their own past. One they are using an anti american stance. Two alot of people in germany still cannot accept what the nazi's had done. Even regular german Wehrmacht soldiers who were off fighting while certain nazi groups were killing the jews, pols, homo's, and so on, couldnt believe what was done.

For the most part they do not want to participate in most wars because of their past history. They dont want the world to think they are a bunch of heartless jew killing nazis.

In a veto for war with iraq i could almost garantee that germany would allow an invasion at the last second. china and russia would never veto against an invasion. its not china's style and russia doesnt want to risk trade relations with the united states.

that leaves only france who would veto against war with iraq. and its because of money.

[karasz]

they will abstain, if and when teh new resolution comes to the UN security council...

they aren't stupid... the US invades Iraq, the US will win the war, then the new Iraqi gov't comes into power and France and Russia with their oil contracts will pay for the this new government... my guess is the new government will be weak at best...

[Kemamine]

At 2/15/03 05:06 PM, karasz wrote:

... my guess is the new government will be weak at best...

Well OF COURSE the government is going to be weak! Whenever the US gets tangled up in some impoverished country's business and puts a puppet government up, it never works. When the US was in the Cold War and got mixed up with Afghanistan and Korea, nothing good happened there. I admit it wasn't all our fault, but it was pretty childish. If the US sets up a new government in Iraq, it's almost garunteed to suck.

[TheEvilOne]

It's quite obvious that France is going to veto any war resolution. We don't need their help anyway. It's time to act without the UN. It's time for the United States and its TRUE allies to move in and rid the world of the menace known as Saddam Hussein.

I will laugh at the French after we're finished, when the Iraqi people are dancing in the streets, happy to finally be free, and our troops are uncovering massive numbers of weapons of mass destruction. I really hope the French will be proud of themselves after that.

[Alakazam]

At 2/15/03 07:57 PM, TheEvilOne wrote: I really hope the French will be proud of themselves after that. :

No the French will claim that it was their plan all along and think proudly of how well it was carried out.

[karasz]

At 2/15/03 07:57 PM, TheEvilOne wrote: It's quite obvious that France is going to veto any war resolution. We don't need their help anyway. It's time to act without the UN. It's time for the United States and its TRUE allies to move in and rid the world of the menace known as Saddam Hussein.

well let's not forget the purpose of the UNITED NATIONS is to protect small nations that can't protect themselves... what you suggest is voiding teh UN, which in course would make teh world even more dangerous then it is now...

I will laugh at the French after we're finished, when the Iraqi people are dancing in the streets, happy to finally be free, and our troops are uncovering massive numbers of weapons of mass destruction. I really hope the French will be proud of themselves after that.

the French wont care... just like everyone after saddam is ousted... way to go best military in the world against Iraq... then what... that is the key question no one thinks about, do we help the new nation or not??? Also, what happens to the old governments trade agreements, cuz France and Russia have tons of money involved in Saddams govt... and who do we attack next?

[Sweden-Forever]

france can go and fuck themselves

[rezgwu]

No, the French only care about their investments in Iraq. If the US attacks, they will lose money.
After the US defeats Saddam, the new Iraqi government may find other trade partners. French contracts may not be honored. France will lose the income they receive from the Oil for Food Program.

the French wont care...

Yes they will care. You already told us why:
:cuz France and Russia have tons of money involved in Saddams govt

If you want to know why anything in the world is the way it is, follow the money.

[JMHX]

You know, either way you look at it, France is going to end up losing. If they keep away from the war (as we know they will, as they've said it so many times), they'll probably lose the contracts if a new regime comes in (as was said). If they go ahead with the war, they'll lose the contracts anyway. It shows you how much they're thankful that we came through and helped them with that little thing called LIBERATION. Oh well, I'm against the War on Iraq, too, but you don't see me standing up and sa...oh yeah, I do.

[Sweden-Forever]

eh france sucks

[Slizor]

Why is it that the same people who will deny that America is in the war for the oil will also claim that France don't want to go to war because of the oil?

I really do hate the Israeli and American propaganda machines "Anti-Americanism" "Anti-semitism" it's such bullshit.

[NEMESiSZ]

France and Germany are both hypocrites, they say USA only wants to go to war for oil, meanwhile, they only DON'T want to go to war because of THEIR oil.

They're ingrates too, if it weren't for the USA, Europe would be a giant pile of rubble.

[RoguePunk]

we should go kick some ass and france is not bhind anyone because they got there head to farup there asres and there yellow belly wankers and god know why we gave them a veto

[JMHX]

At 2/18/03 12:37 PM, NEMESiSZ wrote: France and Germany are both hypocrites, they say USA only wants to go to war for oil, meanwhile, they only DON'T want to go to war because of THEIR oil.

They're ingrates too, if it weren't for the USA, Europe would be a giant pile of rubble.

Yes. The French are just as bad as us Americans. It's just the opposite with them. Oh well. The less diplomatic side of me wishes they get at least one good reminder of who saved them in WWII.

[kremlorn]

Forget Iraq, lets invade France! :)

On a side note, a long forgotten thing called the "war on terrorism" seems to have escaped to back of everyones mind. We should ally ourselves with Hussein and invade Saudi Arabia, the breeding ground and financier of most of todays terrorism. Who is the bigger threat, the country that never did anything to us or the country that is raising and funding the people that crash airplanes into our buildings?

[JMHX]

On a side note, a long forgotten thing called the "war on terrorism" seems to have escaped to back of everyones mind.

You know, I heard someone talking about that. They said that George W. Bush's ability to turn the world's eyes from Osama Bin Laden to Saddam Hussein in such short time is one of the most amazing feats of political flexibility ever. I have to agree, though it's really not a good thing. Now Bin Laden is alive and mad that we've forgotten about him.

[karasz]

At 2/18/03 04:18 PM, JudgeMeHarshX wrote: You know, I heard someone talking about that. They said that George W. Bush's ability to turn the world's eyes from Osama Bin Laden to Saddam Hussein in such short time is one of the most amazing feats of political flexibility ever. I have to agree, though it's really not a good thing. Now Bin Laden is alive and mad that we've forgotten about him.

well if i were a smarter person i would figure bin laden has to do soemthing to get his cause back on the forefront ...

but if u really think about it how would a terrorist act really help his cause? any attack would most likely be fuel to war fire bush has set... giving him the reason to attack saddam...

[therazorsedge555]

WHy does everyone assume the U.S. will win this war? North Vietnam won a political victory with the American people during the Tet Offensive in 1968. I predict a hellish, drawn out campaign to take Baghdad. Lots of U.S. casualties.

[mysecondstar]

i think the only bump in the road we'll see in this whole war is when the US hits baghdad. and even then i doubt it should be too hard to take. i think that iraq will fold as quickly as it did in 1991 on the outer stretches of the country but the US will have quite a time taking the capital. we just aren't prepared enough for urban warfare of this kind of magnitude.

[NEMESiSZ]

To quote the simpsons, Iraq will fold faster than Superman on laundry day.

[JMHX]

At 2/19/03 07:06 AM, mysecondstar wrote: i think the only bump in the road we'll see in this whole war is when the US hits baghdad. and even then i doubt it should be too hard to take. i think that iraq will fold as quickly as it did in 1991 on the outer stretches of the country but the US will have quite a time taking the capital. we just aren't prepared enough for urban warfare of this kind of magnitude.

I'll side with this scenario. Baghdad is going to be a sore in the side of the military.

[MrTrivia]

The French are jealous of America's power and wealth. A few centuries they were a very powerful nation and they feel that if they can't have power, they'll limit ours.

[Ted-Easton]

Canada has made it clear that we will NOT go to war with Iraq without a security council resolution stating the UN's support.

Well, as clear as it's going to get.

[RegisCartoons]

France did one serious mistake yesterday. President of France said that newcomers to EU (my country - Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Poland and other)should no support USA in war with IRAQ. Now we will know a real face of France and won't forget it after the war.

[Russian37]

France can kiss my ass. I mean up unitl we bailed them out in WWII France would be known as Germany, and how do those frogs pay us back? By standing in our way in defending the well being of the world. I mean it would be ok if they thought many lives would be lost, but that is not what they are thinking. They have their minds set on the investments that they have in Iraq, and worried about what we are going to do with the oil when we take over all the oil in Iraq. It's not like we going to let other countires suffer without oil. That won't happen we will do the noble thing thing like always, well almost always. So basically France and the US are a like (obession with oil).

[JMHX]

At 2/19/03 06:47 PM, Russian37 wrote: France can kiss my ass. I mean up unitl we bailed them out in WWII France would be known as Germany, and how do those frogs pay us back? By standing in our way in defending the well being of the world.

Defending the well being of world oil...

I mean it would be ok if they thought many lives would be lost, but that is not what they are thinking. They have their minds set on the investments that they have in Iraq, and worried about what we are going to do with the oil when we take over all the oil in Iraq.

Just like America...except America is doing the opposite

It's not like we going to let other countires suffer without oil. That won't happen we will do the noble thing thing like always, well almost always. So basically France and the US are a like (obession with oil).

Good. Good. Now, which one is more insane? The one who doesn't want to kill for it, or the one who wants to go in guns blazing and shoot anyone who stands in the way of oil?

[NEMESiSZ]

I'd rather see arabs die than americans.

End of discussion, asshole.

[implodinggoat]

Yes we need the French I mean they have such powerful and couragous soldiers....HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!