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Video game Violence 2003-02-12 19:59:22 Reply

Do you think that video game violence influences kids to kill?

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Response to Video game Violence 2003-02-12 20:14:45 Reply

It is really hard to say. Man has a violent nature. I believe in many ways, violent video games provide a safe outlet for our bloodlust. I am very much a pacifist, and always have been. At the same time, I love playing violent video games.
I must admit, however, that when I was a kid I was playing an Atari 2600... not a great deal of graphic violence there. A game like Grand Theft Auto: Vice City may have a much more profound effect on a young child.
Then again, games are clearly labeled if they contain violent or sexual content. Being that no small child should be alone at the mall with $50 to burn, the responsibility lies with the parents who purchase these games for their children.

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Response to Video game Violence 2003-02-12 21:10:37 Reply

I need to agree with Labanzab personnaly I don't see video games as being a direct cause of violence among youth however they can still be of influence. For example I volunteer at a homework club for an elementary school and I find it a little disturbing to hear a grade 4 say something like "GTA3 is awesome because you get to kill innocent people and have sex with hookers." When I heard that I realized that kid should never have been allowed to play a game like that but I doubt he'll go to his school with a gun because of it.

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Response to Video game Violence 2003-02-12 23:21:56 Reply

It's problem, but not "Jimmy will bring a gun to school! Run!" Parents try to entertain their kids, and plain spoil them nowadays. Threat of a tanrum? Oh no! Let's buy him a videogame we just heard of now, and know nothing about! Then when they see what it's like, they automaticly sue the game makers. Main problem being overlooked: Irresponsible parents

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Response to Video game Violence 2003-02-13 02:21:38 Reply

Most parents are stupid. They buy all kinds of crap and let their children see crazy things without even an explanation of whats happening. If you play Street fighters or Quake knowing that violence is wrong and that this is just fiction, then you will grow up almost normal (almost no girls play video games where i come from. nothing to be gained by staying in you house. I'm so happy i can dance). If a parent hand their son or daughter Quake or let them see Scream without a parent child talk they run the risk that the childs mind will think of the killing of others is alright and that it's ok to kill someone if you are pissed off.

While parents are trying to work to give their children a better life and trying to make ends meet, nothing is to be gained if we are all dead.

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Response to Video game Violence 2003-02-13 02:47:43 Reply

If you applied the logic of "He/she/it plays violent video games with guns," then you can apply the same logic to "He/she/it plays flight simulator, therefore they can fly a 747 Jet."

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Response to Video game Violence 2003-02-13 02:49:22 Reply

At 2/13/03 02:47 AM, SoySauce2242 wrote: If you applied the logic of "He/she/it plays violent video games with guns," then you can apply the same logic to "He/she/it plays flight simulator, therefore they can fly a 747 Jet."

Oops, meant to add "he/she/it plays violent videogames with guns, therefore they are a killing machine"

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Response to Video game Violence 2003-02-13 02:56:58 Reply

I think that my post was a little bit misleading. What i really ment to attack was school violence. While my post was about how playing shooting games might make a person want to shoot some people, i really ment to post about how games like that give people ideas, not the power. Violence is very easy and that is what makes it so dangerous. It's not that hard to throw a rock or kick something. While those are basic ideas games replace those with even worse ideas like using guns and using trip wires. Some may even go so far as to recreate something they saw. Like those kids that did the bbq thing from jackass.

While that got off the subject after a while i think that while it sucks to be told that it'n not funny to this and doing stupid crap could kill you it is for the best.

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Response to Video game Violence 2003-02-13 03:00:05 Reply

Most violent video games contain an "M" rating. And nowadays stores are strictly enforcing the age 17+ rule. Most of these 'violent' video games are bought by the child's parents.

It blows my mind when some frantic soccer moms find out what is really in games like GTA3. Then they go preach to the media about it when it was in fact themselves that started the whole conflict.

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Response to Video game Violence 2003-02-13 06:12:00 Reply

I like to play Return To Castle Wolfenstein, Grand Theft Auto 3 and I used to player Unreal Tournament and Tactical Ops (I have to buy UT2003...) and I am never agresive!
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Response to Video game Violence 2003-02-13 12:13:42 Reply

When I was a little kid, Pong was the big game on the block, and I was a pretty violent kid. Perhaps the culprit goes further back in time like T.V., or maybe it's just human nature. Video games now just teach kids how to kill more effectively.Hand held flak cannon vs. frying pan.

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Response to Video game Violence 2003-02-13 12:35:51 Reply

The problem is not the games. any repulican parent who blames anything on games is an idiot. if anything, it's the constant warmongering by the republicans.

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Response to Video game Violence 2003-02-13 14:51:27 Reply

At 2/12/03 07:59 PM, Deathman33 wrote: Do you think that video game violence influences kids to kill?

The short version: No.

The long version: Do you particularly want to read a 3500 word essay, complete with endnotes, bibliography, and a musical number by Burt Bacharach?


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Response to Video game Violence 2003-02-13 16:48:57 Reply

David Cross addressed this issue in one of his stand up specials. He said something to the effect of "oh yeah, video games are the cause of violence. What was the name of that video game Hitler used to play?"

Joking aside, a manager at a video game store wrote a letter to Game Informer a couple months ago. He said a very young child came in to purchase GTA:VC. He refused to sell the game to him. The child left the store and returned with his mother. The mother proceeded to chastise the gentleman for refusing to sell the game to her child. He explained why, and she was still angry and bought the game anyway.
This is a clear example of how the fault lies with the parebts and not the industry. The fact is, males between the ages of 18-35 are the majority of video game buyers. The industry must make products to appeal to its customers if they are to make money. There ARE many games aaimed at children. The parents must distinguish which ones are appropriate.

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Response to Video game Violence 2003-02-13 16:52:18 Reply

Nope me i play violent video game and im not violent.


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Response to Video game Violence 2003-02-13 19:19:42 Reply

yes i do think it does

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Response to Video game Violence 2003-02-13 20:46:51 Reply

Eh, bullshit. Video games only make an impression on those who lack the sense between real and fantasy.

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Response to Video game Violence 2003-02-13 22:51:06 Reply

First off, you'd have to fucked up to begin with if you shoot up a school...
Second, video games are things we can't get away with in real life,(Vice City) but some times they can be outragous like state of emergencey that push the boundries with ultra-violence...but overall it's harmless to the sane members of society

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Response to Video game Violence 2003-02-14 00:34:29 Reply

At 2/13/03 08:46 PM, Paul138 wrote: Eh, bullshit. Video games only make an impression on those who lack the sense between real and fantasy.

Exactly. Take the game grand theft auto vice city for instance. Studies show that people who have played the game get a taste of what not to do.

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Response to Video game Violence 2003-02-14 00:39:14 Reply

Oh, another thing, every case that has envolved a minor killing or attempting to kill another person that was linked to video games, they were only blaming video games because the parents of the kid did not want thier marital problems or the kids school problems to be all over the world. The last kid that tried to blow up a school couldnt go through with it. He wanted to kill all the people who were icking on him in school. He had many psycological problems from being messed with sience he was 6 years old. The other kid that ran into a cafeteria with a handgun was also trying to kill the people who picked on him. Oh whats that? The same was with every single case where a minor killed or tried to kill other people? huh, whoda thunk it.

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Response to Video game Violence 2003-02-14 04:44:07 Reply

At 2/12/03 07:59 PM, Deathman33 wrote: Do you think that video game violence influences kids to kill?

Humans are born to be violent. That is our nature. I think that children are desenstized to violence in many ways. I believe the same media that blames video games is at fault mostly. The other day in my home town a child was shoot. And the fucking media just had to show a shot of blood stains in the snow. We are living in a strange world.

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Response to Video game Violence 2003-02-14 04:51:20 Reply

a violence word on the screen will scare them, if they play that game or watch that movie, that means it means nothing to him/her

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Response to Video game Violence 2003-02-14 04:52:37 Reply

At 2/13/03 06:12 AM, Big_Boss_Man wrote: I like to play Return To Castle Wolfenstein, Grand Theft Auto 3 and I used to player Unreal Tournament and Tactical Ops (I have to buy UT2003...) and I am never agresive!
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Response to Video game Violence 2003-02-15 10:34:44 Reply

At 2/12/03 07:59 PM, Deathman33 wrote: Do you think that video game violence influences kids to kill?

I think that Video Games are not the first and only responsable of making kids agressive and angry nowadays.. Is the environment in wich thew live. If a kid always see his parents in eternal conflict and discutions, what do you want him to do? The fathers must give to their sons and daughters a good ambient to grow up not only physically, but mental and intelecual too.

But of course! there is always a stupid that when he see a teenager shooting at his classmates in a highschool he says: "It´s video game´s fault, they are full of violence" and they only make stupid anti video game propaganda

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Response to Video game Violence 2003-02-15 11:32:12 Reply

Hey... I seem to recall being told by Bob Dole that the movie "Natural Born Killers" was the cause of teen violence. Now they tell me its the video games.
Simple fact... today's kids grow up in a world constantly filled with mayhem and violence. It has really always been so, but out technological advances have made it possible for all of us to see death and suffering from all corners of the globe. The violence in movies and video games pales in comparrison to the horrors of reality. If anything, games and movies allow us to face our fears head on in a safe and healthy way.

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Response to Video game Violence 2003-02-16 04:00:08 Reply

personally, in my opinion, without violance all the games would just be another britney dance moves sequal, it makes me happy to know that when i cut that monsters head off, that he's really dead and wont start dancing like a slut/britney

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Response to Video game Violence 2003-02-17 01:18:48 Reply

You can no more become a vigilante by playing video games than you can become an astronaut by watching Apollo 13 every hour of every day.


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Response to Video game Violence 2003-02-17 20:08:59 Reply

It makes me laugh every time I see a post like this. As if violence didn’t exist before video games. What video game was it that Jack the Ripper was really into again? Perhaps it was “Hack the Whores 4". And I bet Hitler was into “Sim Dictator”.

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Response to Video game Violence 2003-02-17 20:56:51 Reply

"The Quest to Save Hitler's Brain!"


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Response to Video game Violence 2003-02-17 21:32:16 Reply

I think people who blame killings on violence in video games are fucking idiots. If you're kid is that stupid, don't let him buy mature games.