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Wow I'm glad that's all over. Whew!
I think that must have brought the NGDD back to life once again, a good ol' argument!
Haha, I'm glad things have been sorted out. Oh and GRANDRAGON (Or whatever, the post above this one) you actually have to finish your post before you even try to join.
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At 2/5/09 02:21 AM, Lizzardis wrote: Wow I'm glad that's all over. Whew!
I think that must have brought the NGDD back to life once again, a good ol' argument!

Not really, i think the NGDD will only be brought back to life when the new system is released. I've thought about making a temporary system which i call The Laura Doffman System aka The LD System. The LD System will basically be the beta system of what's soon to come. The LD System will have a converter that can convert NGDD points earned from doing things on Newgrounds to the new system. So points will not be erased when the new system (not the LD System) is released. My main plan all along was bringing back the NGDD to it's golden age but I probably won't include prizes from the Newgrounds Store as i think helping out newgrounds shouldn't really earn you a $20 gift from beating everyone who participated in a contest. Maybe what I'll have users do is they must reach a certain number of contest points and trust me the number of points needed will be HIGH to earn a $20 gift.

I'll give you guys more information on the LD System when i finish up working on what I'm going to say about the departments in the LD System.

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At 2/6/09 09:16 AM, DarkSoldier wrote: Not really, i think the NGDD will only be brought back to life when the new system is released. I've thought about making a temporary system which i call The Laura Doffman System aka The LD System.

I understand that you will be giving us more details on the temporary system in which you will call The Laura Doffman system aka "The LD System," but I'm really curious as to who Laura Doffman is. And why is the system named after her. If it isn't too top secret at the moment at least.

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At 2/6/09 06:45 PM, AnalPenguinFarming wrote:
At 2/6/09 09:16 AM, DarkSoldier wrote: Not really, i think the NGDD will only be brought back to life when the new system is released. I've thought about making a temporary system which i call The Laura Doffman System aka The LD System.
I understand that you will be giving us more details on the temporary system in which you will call The Laura Doffman system aka "The LD System," but I'm really curious as to who Laura Doffman is. And why is the system named after her. If it isn't too top secret at the moment at least.

Haha, i knew someone would ask that xD
Well.. i was thinking about system names and if any of you played the Metal Gear Solid series you will know that the Patriots Artificial Intelligence is divided into 4 parts (if i remember correctly). I only remember JD aka John Dowe and GW aka i fogot what it stands for... But yeah, Laura Doffman was just something that randomly popped into my head when i was thinking for a system name and looking at games that I've played with system names such as Metal Gear Solid 4. I was thinking of naming it after a MGS4 Patriots AI but i preferred Laura Doffman aka LD.

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The LD system sounds very cool I have not played Metal Gear Solid, only a brief demo, but it sounds very promising. Got one of those rare messages I saved a flash, and got the "your vote was the last to save this congratulations this is saved". Gotta say I really miss the old flash you got when you either saved or blammed, a flash the message is nice but cannot compare to it. It good to see more activity on here and hopefully the new system will make it busy here again.

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At 2/2/09 03:57 PM, djconnect wrote: I say now all members need to vote now.

Haha, good luck. And remember, have fun with it!


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At 2/7/09 06:41 AM, Gu-rrilla wrote:
At 2/2/09 03:57 PM, djconnect wrote: I say now all members need to vote now.
Haha, good luck. And remember, have fun with it!

You should really read the posts after the one you quote before posting. As a former member of the BBS Department you should know better than anyone else but i guess i failed to have thought you the basic's.

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At 2/6/09 06:52 PM, DarkSoldier wrote: Explanation.

Sounds as good as any explanation to me. However, I unfortunately have not joined the PS3 world yet :( Still using the good old XBOX 360. Still fun though, hasn't really lost its flavor.

So lacrosse season has started and I'm fairly busy, but not as busy as I had thought I would be which is really good for me. And in case you all didn't notice I finally got to level 31! It only took me most of the year to reach. Now my next goal is to get another stat up to 10,000. Next closest thing would happen to be my B/Ps.

Is everyone here still into reviewing? I lost my reviewing touch a long time ago and really would like to get it back in the upcoming months. There are a ton of good flashes out that I would love to leave my input on.

Anyway, thanks again for the explanation DarkSoldier and I'll see everyone else around.

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I can't wait until the The Laura Doffman System/LD system takes effect. It will keep everything more organized and easier to keep track of. My main concern is though, I'm not sure it will be enough. Don't get me wrong, it is a great start to get the NGDD back into the "golden age", but there needs to be more to not only attract new, aspiring members with great potential, but to keep the ones we already have from going back into the inactive state.
My suggestion would be to renew the departments. If I'm correct, there are four departments, one of Flash, one of BBS, one of audio, and one of B/P.

The flash department deals with lending a helping hand to new artists who are struggling along with flash. This is a difficult job, because if you write a review, more times often than not, it will be deleted along with the artist's flash game/movie. It also is time consuming, since you have to walk them step by step into improving their flash skills, which takes 2-3 weeks minimum. What members have been doing currently, is avoiding this department because of its thanklessness and hard work.

The BBS department deals with helping new users to newgrounds improve their post quality, also, by walking them through step by step. This job is hard, since if you try to help them too aggressively, (try to make them improve at a rate too fast for them to handle) then they will get worse at posting and you will most likely be labeled a "grammar Nazi" or another similar, demeaning title. It is also difficult in a sense that you do not know if the users are purposely posting like they way they are or not, and they might even be alts. What I've noticed the NGDD members do is just simply point out that users are "spammers" and nothing else.

The audio department is very similar to the Flash department, by having the same circumstances and results as listed above.

Last, The B/P department. This department deals with regulation of the portal, meaning to try to "blam" entries by known portal Spammers. This job in my opinion, is the easiest, since the NGDD member benefits the most from it by improving their b/p as well as there is no commitment needed, such as helping to try to change spammers, which is another big issue.

Life, the creator of this club, but not its idea, knew these tasks were difficult, which is why he made the rewards great. My suggestion is to change how we go about in the departments so we will be moving somewhere as before instead of just "stat-whoring" and using this club for only our self-benefit. I know I cannot change anything with my current rank or lack of, which is why I give you, the NGDD members suggestions on how to better this crew and yourselves as a whole.

I am also open to any suggestions you may have.

end of my "essay" ;)

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SupraAddict great post you got a good point about the different departments, I'm in the B/P department I think. Which as you pointed out is the easiest with reporting, and checking out dodgy flash with spammers. I like the new system is sounds, what maybe this club needs. Well APF I have got very lazy with reviews I only write one or so a month, I do enjoy writing reviews, but find it can be time consuming and using the same words. I tend to repeat in my reviews is a bit tedious at times. But I do love the feeling of being rated Helpful! makes it worth while.

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At 2/7/09 12:01 PM, AnalPenguinFarming wrote:
Sounds as good as any explanation to me. However, I unfortunately have not joined the PS3 world yet :( Still using the good old XBOX 360. Still fun though, hasn't really lost its flavor.

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At 2/7/09 01:09 PM, SupraAddict wrote:
I can't wait until the The Laura Doffman System/LD system takes effect. It will keep everything more organized and easier to keep track of. My main concern is though, I'm not sure it will be enough. Don't get me wrong, it is a great start to get the NGDD back into the "golden age", but there needs to be more to not only attract new, aspiring members with great potential, but to keep the ones we already have from going back into the inactive state.

I know activity would be a problem and asking members to increase their rate of doing good things for Newgrounds would only decrease their rate. When you join the New-NGDD you have to help make Newgrounds better in every department the NGDD has to offer since the 4 (not including IA) are what make up the NGDD and being a member of the NGDD would mean you help out every department but the department you wish to join would be the department you help Newgrounds out the most. I don't know if this is really making sense as i haven't had time to really think about this but i thought i should post it since I know what I want to say but I just ain't sure if the words are used correctly.

My suggestion would be to renew the departments. If I'm correct, there are four departments, one of Flash, one of BBS, one of audio, and one of B/P.

Soon to be a Photoshop Department because of the Photoshop Portal coming out soon :)

The flash department deals with lending a helping hand to new artists who are struggling along with flash. This is a difficult job, because if you write a review, more times often than not, it will be deleted along with the artist's flash game/movie. It also is time consuming, since you have to walk them step by step into improving their flash skills, which takes 2-3 weeks minimum. What members have been doing currently, is avoiding this department because of its thanklessness and hard work.

The departments will all be changed but in a way of simplicity.

The BBS department deals with helping new users to newgrounds improve their post quality, also, by walking them through step by step. This job is hard, since if you try to help them too aggressively, (try to make them improve at a rate too fast for them to handle) then they will get worse at posting and you will most likely be labeled a "grammar Nazi" or another similar, demeaning title. It is also difficult in a sense that you do not know if the users are purposely posting like they way they are or not, and they might even be alts. What I've noticed the NGDD members do is just simply point out that users are "spammers" and nothing else.

The BBS Department is pretty easy actually. If the teachers in school thought them well in English class then my job is pretty easy :P

The audio department is very similar to the Flash department, by having the same circumstances and results as listed above.

Last, The B/P department. This department deals with regulation of the portal, meaning to try to "blam" entries by known portal Spammers. This job in my opinion, is the easiest, since the NGDD member benefits the most from it by improving their b/p as well as there is no commitment needed, such as helping to try to change spammers, which is another big issue.

Life, the creator of this club, but not its idea, knew these tasks were difficult, which is why he made the rewards great. My suggestion is to change how we go about in the departments so we will be moving somewhere as before instead of just "stat-whoring" and using this club for only our self-benefit. I know I cannot change anything with my current rank or lack of, which is why I give you, the NGDD members suggestions on how to better this crew and yourselves as a whole.

What do you mean by changed how we go about in the departments? You mean change the application/probation system because trust me I've already planned my idea for it.

I know WastedWizard suggested having a program in the NGDD that would train the new users on Newgrounds but i personally don't think that would work because the NGDD doesn't really have any spare management at the momemt. Plus, it won't really benefit us. If the NGDD gets a lot of New Newgrounders and we don't really have the management fit to "train" these new users then it could cause a catastrophe. And.. let's just say we put a lot of work into these new members but there computer end's up breaking or they're banned from Newgrounds by their parents and we never hear from them again, then that's time wasted. I think the NGDD should be about showing what you can do for Newgrounds. Not having others teach you step-by-step. To avoid management problems we have set-up guidelines which guide's these users or... I don't think we have set-up guidelines yet. But anyhow, if you guys want the Training System it is by far a stretch in my opinion but I'm not in favor of using management to train "New" users. I'm in favor of having guidelines.

And about your rank or lack of rank, well... since it was your choice to re-sign. I can't help you in any way.

I am also open to any suggestions you may have.
end of my "essay" ;)

Honestly, these explanations i have laid out in this post might change. I haven't really finalized a lot of this or rather even talked to The-Thing and Phantom about it. Which is what i should have done first...

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Either way, the fact of the matter is that the NGDD HAS to change at least once a year. Newgrounds as a website is constantly changing - whether it be through the users or the layout. I think it's great that you guys are working to change the system and make it better and easier to work with.

The only problem I ever really encountered was trying to find a way to keep members in the NGDD. It seemed we were at our prime as soon as the changes were made last year. But that's besides the point, and I think that you all will be able to hold members better this year with a new system.

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At 2/8/09 07:58 AM, AnalPenguinFarming wrote: Either way, the fact of the matter is that the NGDD HAS to change at least once a year. Newgrounds as a website is constantly changing - whether it be through the users or the layout. I think it's great that you guys are working to change the system and make it better and easier to work with.

Yeah, i was actually going to point that out later on that if Newgrounds has a drastic change then that could cause a lot of changes and probably delays on the LD System or the system after the LD System.

The only problem I ever really encountered was trying to find a way to keep members in the NGDD. It seemed we were at our prime as soon as the changes were made last year. But that's besides the point, and I think that you all will be able to hold members better this year with a new system.

I noticed activity is a problem and between the EGB, NGDD and NGPD, the NGDD has the toughest job since we protect newgrounds in every way while the EGB and NGPD specialize in the Flash Portal. But, i actually sort of no longer care if users are active or not. This site consists of over a million users so if one goes inactive for a stupid reason then i couldn't care less.

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I noticed activity is a problem and between the EGB, NGDD and NGPD, the NGDD has the toughest job since we protect newgrounds in every way while the EGB and NGPD specialize in the Flash Portal. But, i actually sort of no longer care if users are active or not. This site consists of over a million users so if one goes inactive for a stupid reason then i couldn't care less.

I don't quite agree completely, although I do think the Newgrounds department of defense isn't working to its fullest. This site does have over a million users, but only a select few members in the NGDD. if you count them all(the active ones), then I'm sure you'll be surprised to find we have a count that is less than 10, so if one member, who pulls his/her weight around here equally, goes inactive, that means we will only work at a maximum quota of 90%, which is a surprising amount. Since the NGDD has been on a "vacation", much like what was referred to my passive watch over here, I think we should get in gear and become more organized by creating an update occasionally.

Regarding the update-I suggest we have an update sorted into the departments, with each dept. duty heading itself respectively. From there, the members would be listed under each department, and then their daily/weekly stats depending on the rate at which the updates occur. That way, not only will the NGDD members know what their job is, but they will also be reminded of their daily/weekly points up to their reward which will keep them focused and determined, hypothetically.

Now it is only fair that I point out the cons as well as the pros to my solution to the NGDD.

Cons of this solution
-More work for the leaders to post updates.
-More work for the members to reach their goals, as would be with the LD system.
-More work for the leaders and/or members to post their stats in the update.
-Everyone will have an active purpose.
-The new NGDD will noticeably increase member join rate, creating more spammer posts.

Pros of this solution
-A more organized, functional club dedicated to the welfare of newer users.
-an easier way to keep track of one's goals and rank.
-Post count will be raised due to the amount of legit updates.
-Users of newgrounds will be helped as originally intended.
-Updates will make members post more frequently, increasing overall activity within the club.
-Everyone will have an active purpose.
-The new NGDD will noticeably increase member join rate, overall increase the workforce.

I believe this is the solution to make the NGDD function with a purpose and to attract new members.
Any thoughts about my solution, whether to improve it or build upon it?

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I am sorry for my recent long posts. I realize that it must be more difficult than the easy 1-2 line posts, but please, take the time to read them, since if I use up that much posting space, then it usually means I'm addressing something important, such as a solution to many NGDD problems(see above)

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No problem SupraAddict I really like your suggestions about stats especially, about reporting on a weekly update, that's sounds to me just what is needs only my opinion though. I think your ideas are excellent as well as your posts on the club at the moment. On what is going on in the portal I do tend to try to let people know about certain spammers for example ,I mentioned before about the Cyberen series always passing the latest one here will no doubt pass

I'm not saying to vote o vote on what you think. I find the spam annoying but I think its a pity there are not more people posting here. I do try to post here.

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At 2/8/09 10:21 PM, phantomlassuk wrote: No problem SupraAddict I really like your suggestions about stats especially, about reporting on a weekly update, that's sounds to me just what is needs only my opinion though. I think your ideas are excellent as well as your posts on the club at the moment. On what is going on in the portal I do tend to try to let people know about certain spammers for example ,I mentioned before about the Cyberen series always passing the latest one here will no doubt pass
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/48 2402
I'm not saying to vote o vote on what you think. I find the spam annoying but I think its a pity there are not more people posting here. I do try to post here.

I think that is a great way to go about the B/P department. I'm glad that you like my ideas and that you went an extra step by messaging the authors of the spam submissions, as well as posting them here so that the crew can also partake in judging whether or not it is Newgrounds worthy or not. In a way, you're bringing your work here for everyone to get a glimpse of how the B/P department works, which is overall beneficial to the promotion of that section. Great work, phantomlassuk.

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I think that is a great way to go about the B/P department. I'm glad that you like my ideas and that you went an extra step by messaging the authors of the spam submissions, as well as posting them here so that the crew can also partake in judging whether or not it is Newgrounds worthy or not. In a way, you're bringing your work here for everyone to get a glimpse of how the B/P department works, which is overall beneficial to the promotion of that section. Great work, phantomlassuk.

No I did not message the author I just posted the link, I don't know if sending a message to the author would do much good. They don't tend to take much notice but thanks for the post.

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No I did not message the author I just posted the link, I don't know if sending a message to the author would do much good. They don't tend to take much notice but thanks for the post.

Oh well, it is still a start. Perhaps thoug, we could find a way to successfully influence the spammer's personality so he/she could correct their ways and it would be one less problem for newgrounds.

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At 2/8/09 11:24 PM, SupraAddict wrote:
No I did not message the author I just posted the link, I don't know if sending a message to the author would do much good. They don't tend to take much notice but thanks for the post.
Oh well, it is still a start. Perhaps thoug, we could find a way to successfully influence the spammer's personality so he/she could correct their ways and it would be one less problem for newgrounds.

Once a spammer, always a spammer. At least in 95% of cases. I can count on my right hand how many spammers have forgotten their old ways and turned into helpful, or at least average, Newgrounds users. Most spammers just give up or are banned from NG.


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At 2/9/09 12:02 AM, TheThing wrote:
At 2/8/09 11:24 PM, SupraAddict wrote:
No I did not message the author I just posted the link, I don't know if sending a message to the author would do much good. They don't tend to take much notice but thanks for the post.
Oh well, it is still a start. Perhaps thoug, we could find a way to successfully influence the spammer's personality so he/she could correct their ways and it would be one less problem for newgrounds.
Once a spammer, always a spammer. At least in 95% of cases. I can count on my right hand how many spammers have forgotten their old ways and turned into helpful, or at least average, Newgrounds users. Most spammers just give up or are banned from NG.

That is why we are here, so it goes. To increase that number of 5% to something...more. If we can do that, then this club will positively change Newgrounds than from before. But it shouldn't stop there, we should try to help out new artists, posters etcetera. It is the same principle I've been stating over and over, but there will be change in the NGDD, and it will be for the better. I believe we as a whole can make it change, but like I said, we need everyone's participation, from the leader, all the way down to the new members.

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On the case of spammers I'm afraid that its a utter waste of time leaving a message, I left a good comment why don't you put more effort into your flashes? here is the reply http://princess-laucherella.newgrounds.c om/news/post/262343 Well as you can see a waste of time, I got insulted and the reply was so dumb. I know not all spammers are like this look at BigFuzzyKitten, a really good poster who just won $250 dollars for his flash here. http://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/1026 083. Sadly with Cyberen it seem to be a spam series he even admitted it in a post somewhere. I think he got his account deleted a few times as well

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At 2/9/09 12:23 AM, SupraAddict wrote: That is why we are here, so it goes. To increase that number of 5% to something...more.

In my experience, we can't do much to increase that 5%. Spammers are spamming for a reason; to get attention or to make people mad which will get them attention. The ones that have actual talent in Flash will likely stay, while the rest will fade into obscurity (Barney Bunch? Robot Rangers? Beatles Bunch?). Most spammers aren't here to make a name for themselves; they want to piss people off. If they become infamous, so be it.

But it shouldn't stop there, we should try to help out new artists, posters etcetera.

Of course we should help there. That's an area that can be easily be improved. You don't have to change some one's ideology to make them a better poster, artist or musician. This right here was one of the founding principles of the NGDD


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Just wanted to let you know what's going on in the portal, well some spam stuff. The awards have all been stolen I think. Lots of rightly outraged people including myself at the abuse of power. I'm sure just a year ago the same thing happened. Lots of well know spammers all on the list, how long they will remain there is uncertain, but I think it wont be long now. Another terrible Cyberen one passed Chris Beer aka FFF got some crap UJ. Checking for abusive content got a few b/p points today.

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Posted at: 2/12/09 01:02 AM

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At 2/11/09 11:36 PM, phantomlassuk wrote: well some spam stuff.

That's just a given. they submit spam for years and years, and one clear day, wade will knock it all away, just like nature wanted it to be.

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Posted at: 2/13/09 10:10 PM

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At 2/12/09 01:02 AM, Phantom wrote:
At 2/11/09 11:36 PM, phantomlassuk wrote: well some spam stuff.
That's just a given. they submit spam for years and years, and one clear day, wade will knock it all away, just like nature wanted it to be.

I can't tell who has more fun:

- Wade who deletes all the spam groups shit work?

or

- The spam groups who basically just waste a bunch of mouse clicks making shit and submitting it and earning us blam points?

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Posted at: 2/13/09 11:40 PM

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At 2/13/09 10:10 PM, DarkSoldier wrote:
At 2/12/09 01:02 AM, Phantom wrote:
At 2/11/09 11:36 PM, phantomlassuk wrote: well some spam stuff.
That's just a given. they submit spam for years and years, and one clear day, wade will knock it all away, just like nature wanted it to be.
I can't tell who has more fun:

- Wade who deletes all the spam groups shit work?

or

- The spam groups who basically just waste a bunch of mouse clicks making shit and submitting it and earning us blam points?

Alright, it looks like the B/p Department is in good shape. Now we must focus on the others. The system I have recommended is still up for grabs, and it would improve quality within Newgrounds. If any member has forgotten my system, I will be more than happy to repost it.

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Posted at: 2/14/09 04:36 AM

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I think you should re-post it.
Darksoldier i think, he made an LD system, on which he is working on and would like to make it the new system.
If we have your system and his, then we can compare. And maybe we can combine the two somehow.

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Posted at: 2/14/09 05:28 AM

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Glad to see the topic is more active now. I joined a couple of weeks ago and if im not on the list put me on again. As you know I B/P everyday and made this site a huge part of my life at my stats show.

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Posted at: 2/14/09 05:52 AM

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At 2/14/09 05:28 AM, Basspro55 wrote: Glad to see the topic is more active now. I joined a couple of weeks ago and if im not on the list put me on again. As you know I B/P everyday and made this site a huge part of my life at my stats show.

Wow!
Very nice!
It's nice to see your a Sup. Commander, ranked 10th! You have THAT many reviews? and what did you do with all of the stickers?

Oh and here is his stats, for those lazy people who can't be bothered clicking his profile link.

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