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At 9/1/09 04:18 PM, Nev wrote: Home is great. I just don't think they're be space to fit it is. ACos and Octavarium are gonna take up a lot of disc space :P.

That's probably the reason you couldn't have those on a best of album. Unless it's a 2 disc album ofcourse.

Ok, lets put it this way better.....if you could choose any 15 DT songs (however long they be) to be on a best of album, what would they be?

As far as I know, he is saving it.

Good man.

At 9/1/09 07:21 PM, Life-Stream wrote: That's probably the reason you couldn't have those on a best of album. Unless it's a 2 disc album ofcourse.

It'd have to be a two disc album. It's in the essence of Prog to have those two songs in the mix.

Ok, lets put it this way better.....if you could choose any 15 DT songs (however long they be) to be on a best of album, what would they be?

I'll answer tomorrow or something, I'm gonna do it my way though, 2 70min albums :).

15 songs?

Fuuuu

In the presense of enemies part 1
This^ part 2
In The Name Of God
Octavarium
The Glass Prison
This Dying Soul
A change of seasons
Finally Free
New Millennium
The Count Of Tuscany
Scarred
Voices
Lifting Shadows off a dream
Surrounded
Learning To Live.

My 15.

At 9/1/09 07:47 PM, Nev wrote: I'll answer tomorrow or something, I'm gonna do it my way though, 2 70min albums :).

That's way more complicated though. :P

So much so, we're still waiting. :D

At 9/4/09 05:41 AM, AniMetal wrote: That's way more complicated though. :P

Not really. Just make a playlist in iTunes :). Does the numbers for ya :).

So much so, we're still waiting. :D

Yeah, I couldn't be bothered looking for the topic :P. I'll do it now.
In the order I think would be best for listening too (which has been tested of course :)).
Sadly songs like Scarred and The Glass Prison had to be missed out in order to have some diversity of era.
Disc two is particucarly difficult to order as the last three songs are all capable of ending an album.

Disc 1:
1. A Fortune in Lies
2. Stream of Consciousness
3. In the Presence of the Enemies, Pt. 1
4. A Mind Beside Itself: II. Voices
5. In the Presence of the Enemies, Pt. 2
6. Wait for Sleep
7. Scene Seven: I. The Dance of Eternity
8. Learning to Live
Running Time: 1:12:13

Disc 2:
1. Metropolis, Pt. 1: The Miracle and the Sleeper
2. Octavarium
3. Scene Nine: Finally Free
4. A Change of Seasons
5. Space-Dye Vest
Running Time: 1:16:09

At 9/4/09 04:42 PM, Nev wrote: I'll do it now. In the order I think would be best for listening too (which has been tested of course :)).

I'll have to test out your album when i have 2 and a half hours free :)

Nice song choices.

At 9/5/09 07:31 AM, Life-Stream wrote: I'll have to test out your album when i have 2 and a half hours free :)

Let the session begin!

At 9/5/09 06:28 PM, Life-Stream wrote: Let the session begin!

Sweet :).

I listened to it all yesterday. I thought it worked well on the whole. Octavarium to Finally Free isn't a great transition but if you look at it with an encore mentality I think its okay :).

At 9/5/09 06:31 PM, Nev wrote: I listened to it all yesterday. I thought it worked well on the whole. Octavarium to Finally Free isn't a great transition but if you look at it with an encore mentality I think its okay :).

They're both awesome songs, so it's all good! I think if FF was on a best of album they'd have to edit it and cut it to just the actual song though, as if it's not listened to on Scenes from a memory, the sound parts don't really make any sense.....if you know what i mean.

At 9/5/09 06:58 PM, Life-Stream wrote: They're both awesome songs, so it's all good! I think if FF was on a best of album they'd have to edit it and cut it to just the actual song though, as if it's not listened to on Scenes from a memory, the sound parts don't really make any sense.....if you know what i mean.

I do. But if you don't know what the sound parts mean then you don't deserve to be listening to my creation :).
Greatest Hits shouldn't be a cheap way of making new fans by selling out your current ones by dumbing it down.

At 9/5/09 07:05 PM, Nev wrote: Greatest Hits shouldn't be a cheap way of making new fans by selling out your current ones by dumbing it down.

I wouldn't say it's dumbing it down. Just think of it as making precious album time. You could probably cut down FFs sound bits and squeeze in Vacant instead. I'd much prefer listen to vacant. Especially right before SoC, they merge so well :)

Dream Theater have released a new EP all of sudden for digital stores and there are only two words to describe it:

UTTER DISAPPOINTMENT

This is the track list for the Wither EP:

01. Wither (Album Version) (5:25)
02. Wither (Piano Version) (5:07)
03. Wither (John Petrucci Vocal Demo) (5:24)
04. The Best of Times (Mike Portnoy Vocal Demo) (13:04)

So just alternative versions of Wither and The Best of Times? Goddamn, considering how awesome A Change of Seasons was, I'd have expected a second EP of theirs to be also great with actual new tracks to listen to, not this.

At 9/15/09 10:35 AM, Bahamut wrote: So just alternative versions of Wither and The Best of Times? Goddamn, considering how awesome A Change of Seasons was, I'd have expected a second EP of theirs to be also great with actual new tracks to listen to, not this.

Plus I don't really want to hear Mike and John singing.
James is bad enough, so they can't be much better :P.

At 9/15/09 10:35 AM, Bahamut wrote: So just alternative versions of Wither and The Best of Times? Goddamn, considering how awesome A Change of Seasons was, I'd have expected a second EP of theirs to be also great with actual new tracks to listen to, not this.

Of all the tracks to make 2 new versions of, i wouldn't have chosen wither. I wouldn't mind hearing the John vocal version though - just to see how he does it compared to James.

Have you heard it yet Bahamut?

So i've just come across this awesome video. I think it works pretty well....what do you guys think?

Also, i've been listening to the count of Tuscany quite alot lately, and i damn love it. I just read that John Petrucci wrote that song from a personal experience he had. Sounds like an awesome story, but quite scary - I mean, to be frightened for your life it had to be kinda scary for him.

At 9/15/09 07:06 PM, Life-Stream wrote: Have you heard it yet Bahamut?

Nah, the EP's not worth my purchase. If it had at least one actual new track, I would have considered getting it. However, since it doesn't, I'll pass.

At 9/20/09 08:28 AM, Life-Stream wrote: So i've just come across this awesome video. I think it works pretty well....what do you guys think?

The original thing was awesome enough already but this is also great to hear.

At 9/20/09 09:58 AM, Bahamut wrote: Nah, the EP's not worth my purchase. If it had at least one actual new track, I would have considered getting it. However, since it doesn't, I'll pass.

Yeah, even though Petrucci does an okay job on vocals, and Rudess and LaBrie do a quite soothing piano version, i don't think it's worth it.

The original thing was awesome enough already but this is also great to hear.

I don't think there are covers or different versions of DT songs that are actually better than the originals, but i thought that was pretty damn awesome.

Hey guys! I've been a Dream Theater fan for years thanks to my older brother, and I've seen them live several times in the Dallas area.

Go ahead and personalize your own variation of a sig I compiled a year or so ago. Ytse jam!

At 11/24/09 05:08 PM, Phobotech wrote: Hey guys! I've been a Dream Theater fan for years thanks to my older brother, and I've seen them live several times in the Dallas area.

Go ahead and personalize your own variation of a sig I compiled a year or so ago. Ytse jam!

Wow someone who isn't Lifestream, Bahamut or myself.
Welcome :).

Theres been plenty of lists like 'Favourite Songs' 'Albums in order of preference', etc, etc. So indulge us :P.

At 11/24/09 05:11 PM, Nev wrote:
Wow someone who isn't Lifestream, Bahamut or myself.
Welcome :).

Thanks!

Theres been plenty of lists like 'Favourite Songs' 'Albums in order of preference', etc, etc. So indulge us :P.

Oh jeez...Favorite songs? Hmm...Off the top of my head, either "Endless Sacrifice" or "Lie"

(I prefer their heavy stuff, but I still like songs like "I Walk Beside You" and "Another Day" and the likes.)

Albums? Very first album I ever heard of theirs was "A Change of Seasons" and it's because of the nostalgia from hearing it, that puts it on top of everything else. "Six Degrees of Inner Turbulance" was brilliant and so were most of the orchestral covers from that album in Score XOX, but from there on out, I can't play favorites. :D

At 11/27/09 05:10 AM, Phobotech wrote: Oh jeez...Favorite songs? Hmm...Off the top of my head, either "Endless Sacrifice" or "Lie"

Thats a new response :P.
Endless Sacrifice is a nice song for live shows.
And Lie is off Awake so it has nothing but love from me.

Kinda rare choices though. But to each their own :).

Albums? Very first album I ever heard of theirs was "A Change of Seasons" and it's because of the nostalgia from hearing it, that puts it on top of everything else.

A fine choice, good sir.
I don't care for the album though. The covers are meh in my opinion. So in terms of an album it loses points there. Song wise A Change of Seasons is untoppable.

"Six Degrees of Inner Turbulance" was brilliant and so were most of the orchestral covers from that album in Score XOX, but from there on out, I can't play favorites. :D

I'm not fond of 6DOIT. But Bahamut will like you.
What albums of theirs do you have?

At 11/27/09 04:07 PM, Nev wrote:
I'm not fond of 6DOIT. But Bahamut will like you.
What albums of theirs do you have?

6DOIT? If my assumptions are right in that they're the guys that performed with DT in Score XOX, then nothing but.

At 11/27/09 10:53 PM, Phobotech wrote: 6DOIT? If my assumptions are right in that they're the guys that performed with DT in Score XOX, then nothing but.

6DOIT = Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence.

At 11/28/09 07:42 PM, Nev wrote:

At 11/27/09 10:53 PM, Phobotech wrote: 6DOIT? If my assumptions are right in that they're the guys that performed with DT in Score XOX, then nothing but.

6DOIT = Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence.

Ahh.

I lost my copy of Awake way before I got my own computer, but I have

-A Change of Seasons
-Falling Into Infinity
-Images and Words
-Octavarium
-Scenes from a Memory
-The three disc Score:XOX
-2-disc Six Degrees of Inner Turbulance
-Systematic Chaos
-Train of Thought

and somewhere I have Black Clouds and Silver Linings...I just haven't synced it up yet.

At 11/29/09 09:17 PM, Phobotech wrote: I lost my copy of Awake way before I got my own computer, but I have

You definately need Awake back :P.
Can't complain about the rest though :).

To compare with that little picture I have:
29 albums (although iTunes counts each disc as a seperate one... I have 18 counting my CD rack).
238 songs.
1 day, 7 hours, 18 minutes and 35 seconds of music.

At 11/24/09 05:11 PM, Nev wrote: Wow someone who isn't Lifestream, Bahamut or myself.

Apparently I don't exist.

At 11/29/09 11:48 PM, AniMetal wrote: Apparently I don't exist.

You exist, I just forgot about you :P.

At 11/27/09 04:07 PM, Nev wrote: I don't care for the album though. The covers are meh in my opinion. So in terms of an album it loses points there. Song wise A Change of Seasons is untoppable.

At least the covers were something new unlike alternative versions of tracks they had for Wither so I take it for granted. Infact, I find them to be a nice bonus to the EP when they could have put just ACOS on there and nothing else.

"Six Degrees of Inner Turbulance" was brilliant and so were most of the orchestral covers from that album in Score XOX, but from there on out, I can't play favorites. :D

I'm not fond of 6DOIT. But Bahamut will like you.

Got that right. :D

At 11/29/09 11:48 PM, AniMetal wrote: Apparently I don't exist.

Do we know you? XP

At 11/30/09 11:25 AM, Nev wrote:

At 11/29/09 11:48 PM, AniMetal wrote: Apparently I don't exist.

You exist, I just forgot about you :P.

WAY TO ADORE ME, ABUSE ME AND THEN IGNORE ME!