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At 9/10/06 03:47 PM, Dream-Theater wrote: Hey. I'd like to join the Dream Theater Crew.

Welcome :).

At 9/10/06 03:59 PM, Nev wrote: Welcome :).

Thanks.

Does anyone else just adore the outro to 'Take the Time' ?

At 9/10/06 05:05 PM, Dream-Theater wrote: Does anyone else just adore the outro to 'Take the Time' ?

I prefer the middle 8 of Metropolis :D.
I love your taste in music by the way. Mars Volta :).

At 9/10/06 05:24 PM, Nev wrote: I prefer the middle 8 of Metropolis :D.
I love your taste in music by the way. Mars Volta :).

New tMV album out... TOMORROW.

At 9/10/06 05:44 PM, Dream-Theater wrote: New tMV album out... TOMORROW.

Ano :D

At 9/10/06 06:01 PM, Nev wrote: Ano :D

I'll be ordering 2 copies, one for me and one for my mate who turned 18 yesterday ;D

At 9/10/06 06:09 PM, Dream-Theater wrote: I'll be ordering 2 copies, one for me and one for my mate who turned 18 yesterday ;D

Ordering? You won't get it for a few days in that case right?
I'm getting it during my free at college. Nipping into Blackpool. I've saved some money for it. If I can I might get Awake too. Depends on how much Amputechture is.

At 9/10/06 06:19 PM, Nev wrote: I've saved some money for it. If I can I might get Awake too.

I was right, I did get Awake. Not listened yet, but I am looking forward.... I've gotta whore TMV's new album into my ears for the next few hours though.

Hey i dont think I heard of them you got any links to any of their songs? I join if they are good to me

I've had a little listen to Awake in the car.
And its fucking amazing. Most of you say Scenes from a Memory is the best works. But I can it hard to see how anything can top Awake. Its like an extended A Change of Seasons - that lasts a full album.

Its catchy and poppy like Images and Words.
Yet, its also as heavy as my (really heavy) testicles.
Plus its just a great show of the the usual Dream Theater virtuosity.

Nev is in love. I've gotta listen to it more later.

Why is it that some people really find enjoyment in listening to pop groups who have little to no talent whatsoever, who don't ever write their own songs, and aren't original in any way? I have never understood how people can enjoy that type of music.

I mean, along with how amazing it sounds, listening to Dream Theater really gives you an appreciation for how great the instrumentalism is.

At 9/11/06 09:07 PM, GraemeW wrote: I mean, along with how amazing it sounds, listening to Dream Theater really gives you an appreciation for how great the instrumentalism is.

And Vai, Satch and Yngwie don't? I think if any song that got me into instrumentalism was Metallicas Orion... Even though it was only one song it opened up the world of music with no vocals to me... Then I started working with Jazz bands, which helped a lot. But not that many people got the same opportunities as I did (working with my dad who was a sound engineer) to hear that type of musicianship, let alone on a live level.

Though I would call DT more of a virtuoso band than an instrumental band, all the members are basically at the top of their game, technically and globally.

Well thats my two cents on the matter,,,

At 9/12/06 08:24 AM, Crashedd wrote:

At 9/11/06 09:07 PM, GraemeW wrote: I mean, along with how amazing it sounds, listening to Dream Theater really gives you an appreciation for how great the instrumentalism is.

And Vai, Satch and Yngwie don't?

He never said they didn't.
Plus Buckethead rocks all those bitches.

At 9/12/06 12:33 PM, Nev wrote: He never said they didn't.

I know.

Plus Buckethead rocks all those bitches.

But... he has a bucket on his head...I find it hard to take him seriously...

At 9/12/06 01:13 PM, Crashedd wrote: But... he has a bucket on his head...I find it hard to take him seriously...

Its only a gimmick. And thats his head, not his fingers. Thats where the talent is.
Plus anyone who wears a KFC bucket and a white mask has to be creative.

At 9/11/06 04:00 PM, Nev wrote: I've had a little listen to Awake in the car.
And its fucking amazing. Most of you say Scenes from a Memory is the best works. But I can it hard to see how anything can top Awake. Its like an extended A Change of Seasons - that lasts a full album.

Its catchy and poppy like Images and Words.
Yet, its also as heavy as my (really heavy) testicles.
Plus its just a great show of the the usual Dream Theater virtuosity.

Nev is in love. I've gotta listen to it more later.

I fucking told you guys and you wouldn't listen. Awake is fantastic from start to finish.

Oh yeah, I was banned. I'm a naughty boy.....

At 9/11/06 04:00 PM, Nev wrote:

But I can it hard to see how anything can top Awake. Its like an extended A Change of Seasons - that lasts a full album.

I heard somewhere that "A Mind Beside Itself" ("Erotomania", "Voices" and "The Silent Man") is supposed to be an introduction to "A Chnage of Seasons".

I've got nothing to back it up though.

All of the outros are intros to the next album. Its called a meta album. Dream Theater is possibly the first group to create a meta album. The sound of phonograph static at the end of "Finally Free" on Scenes from a Memory is the same sound at the beginning of "The Glass Prison" on their next album, Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence. And the last chord that fades out at the end of Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence is the same chord that fades in to "As I Am" on the next album, Train of Thought. And the piano note played at the end of "In the Name of God" on Train of Thought is the same piano note that opens "The Root of All Evil" on their next album, Octavarium. I don't know if they did anymore, but yeah, thats about all I know of them doing.

At 9/14/06 04:35 AM, Phantom_Lord wrote: I fucking told you guys and you wouldn't listen. Awake is fantastic from start to finish.

I pretty sure I would of listened. Afterall I love Kevin Moore. So I wouldn't dismiss an album with the Moorester on.

At 9/14/06 05:32 AM, Phantom_Lord wrote: I don't know if they did anymore, but yeah, thats about all I know of them doing.

LOL at copy and paste from wikipedia.

At 9/14/06 12:03 PM, Nev wrote:

At 9/14/06 05:32 AM, Phantom_Lord wrote: I don't know if they did anymore, but yeah, thats about all I know of them doing.

LOL at copy and paste from wikipedia.

I concur.

Wow, I can't believe I haven't joined this club already. Petrucci is a god, and I absolutely love Dream Theater. Honestly, if I had to name my favourite band right now it would be them. LTE rocks as well, but I guess that isn't the point of discussion here. I've been listening to Octavarium a lot recently. Actually I have been playing Space Dye Vest over and over as well, even though it depresses the hell out of me. Anyway, I'd be glad to join. I'll see what I can do about posting regularly.

At 9/14/06 12:03 PM, Nev wrote:

:: LOL at copy and paste from wikipedia.

Coincidence

At 9/12/06 08:24 AM, Crashedd wrote: think if any song that got me into instrumentalism was Metallicas Orion

Yes! Rust in peace Cliff Burton, you are a god!

A Change of Seasons, Awake and Scenes From a Memory all arrived today... currently loving their rendition of Achilles Last Stand :) The actualy song 'A Change of Seasons' is mindblowing!

At 9/16/06 06:31 AM, DreamTheater wrote: A Change of Seasons, Awake and Scenes From a Memory all arrived today... currently loving their rendition of Achilles Last Stand :) The actualy song 'A Change of Seasons' is mindblowing!

The only flaw is that the 24 minutes doesn't last long enough :(.

Lol. And hands up who thinks longer songs are better if they're good? Or should songs be short catchy and awsum?

At 9/16/06 10:56 AM, Nev wrote: The only flaw is that the 24 minutes doesn't last long enough :(.

I actually think the song is the perfect length :p Caught in a Web is immense. I'm listening through Awake for the second time now. The Big Medley made me smile when Bohemian Rhapsody came on :)

Hangin' on by a THREAEAEAEAEAEAEAEAEAEAD!!! I luv the subtle vibrato. I just plain luv the singer. Sumtimes.

At 9/16/06 11:18 AM, Phantom-Lord wrote: Lol. And hands up who thinks longer songs are better if they're good? Or should songs be short catchy and awsum?

I just prefer songs that are catchy and awesome. No matter the length. Some of the catchiest songs I've heard are long:
And Then There Was Silence - Blind Guardian
The Seven Angels - Avantasia
Black Rose Immortal - Opeth
Blackwater Park - Opeth
A Change of Seasons - No need to name an artist :P.

Length isn't a factor.. its just the enjoyment. Some long songs are too tedious - but so are some short ones..... Symphony X's 'The Oddessy' is pretty boring. And I've not gotten into 'Six Degree's of Inner Turbulence' much.

Hmm.... But what do you feel about hour long songs and the like? Is there a TOO long?