wade doesn't care

[HappyCheeseGuy]

i emailed him a few months back about the big loop hole in NG that allows people to steal flas content easily. as i was able to view the source, i could download the ultimate showdown and edit it as i wanted. nothing seems to have been done, and surprise surprise, someone's been taking advantage of this and stealing front page content.

please fix the loop hole and make the source unviewable :(

[Scarab]

I need some more info on this...

[Truth]

give example

[HeinousDude]

Does that surprise you?

[Rucklo]

Well, to begin with, you DID set the subject to "newgrounds help" right right RIIIGHT????

[HappyCheeseGuy]

At 6/12/06 02:26 PM, shohaib wrote: give example

aBum. every front page bit of material is stolen.

as you can view the source, it is extremely easy to steal flash content. I don't know why this hasn't been fixed.

[liaaaam]

You can't make the source unviewable, you idiot. Any way, people can use firefox to download the swf through the "Page Info" thing.. and many programs are out there to let you do it easy too. It's not a NG loophole, it's just how the Internet works - it's like saying it's a loophole that you can right click an image and save it to your computer.

[HappyCheeseGuy]

At 6/12/06 02:26 PM, Rucklo wrote: Well, to begin with, you DID set the subject to "newgrounds help" right right RIIIGHT????

i did, yes.

[TjA]

At 6/12/06 02:27 PM, The_Happy_Cheese_Guy wrote:

At 6/12/06 02:26 PM, shohaib wrote: give example

aBum. every front page bit of material is stolen.

as you can view the source, it is extremely easy to steal flash content. I don't know why this hasn't been fixed.

because no one on ng is that sad to steal flashes

[ScaredOfTrees]

Theres a firefox plugin that allows you to download flash content..and vids.

[HardcoreEmoGothRebel]

waid sux, all he evur doez is b meen to the SS and not give them collectoins and tell ppl to suck off horses he sux dont u agree!

[WadeFulp]

As far as I know there is no way for us to prevent this. In order to watch a .SWF file it needs to be downloaded into your computer and then it's saved on your HD while you watch it. Now it's more up to the Flash artists to encrypt their Flash and there are ways they can set it so it will only play if the viewer is on Newgrounds.com. Meaning if some other site steals it and hosts it, it won't play on their site.

Many of these features weren't available to Flash artists in past versions of Flash, so a lot of the older Flash entries can be downloaded, editted, etc.

It's not really my department to try and improve our security. That's stuff LilJim and Tim deal with and as far as I know they always do everything possible to prevent this type of thing as much as they can, but some things can't be prevented short of making it so when you go to Newgrounds.com no one can view Flash. :)

[Scarab]

Very well said Wade. It was either that, or stop using that damn Internet.

[HappyCheeseGuy]

At 6/12/06 02:28 PM, liaaaam wrote: You can't make the source unviewable, you idiot. Any way, people can use firefox to download the swf through the "Page Info" thing.. and many programs are out there to let you do it easy too. It's not a NG loophole, it's just how the Internet works - it's like saying it's a loophole that you can right click an image and save it to your computer.

many websites don't allow you to view the source. I don't see why NG hasn't done this

[Jake]

He's a busy man and you're an impatient kid.

Just wait. If he doesn't reply, that's because he was too busy. However, Wade is NEVER too busy to read his emails.

[liaaaam]

At 6/12/06 02:29 PM, WadeFulp wrote: bla-bla-security.

if(_root._url.indexOf("newgrounds") == -1) {
_root.gotoAndPlay("StolenFrame");
getURL("http://www.newgrounds.com");
}

Ah.

[ScaredOfTrees]

At 6/12/06 02:31 PM, The_Happy_Cheese_Guy wrote:

At 6/12/06 02:28 PM, liaaaam wrote:

many websites don't allow you to view the source. I don't see why NG hasn't done this

Please show me these websites.

Every site I've been to can easily be viewed.

[Joshbad]

umm wrong forum dude this is for chit chat post it in a dif forum. . .

[liaaaam]

At 6/12/06 02:31 PM, The_Happy_Cheese_Guy wrote: many websites don't allow you to view the source. I don't see why NG hasn't done this

There are many ways to download swfs - viewing the source is actually the hardest way. You can't actually stop people viewing the source as that is a function built into the browser, the best you can do it place the embed in a php section like this:

<?php
echo "<embed src='flash.swf' width='$flwidth' height='$flheight' />";
?>

But that only stops people being able to see the flash URL in the SOURCE. They can still download the swf through much easier methods.

[HappyCheeseGuy]

At 6/12/06 02:29 PM, WadeFulp wrote: As far as I know there is no way for us to prevent this. In order to watch a .SWF file it needs to be downloaded into your computer and then it's saved on your HD while you watch it. Now it's more up to the Flash artists to encrypt their Flash and there are ways they can set it so it will only play if the viewer is on Newgrounds.com. Meaning if some other site steals it and hosts it, it won't play on their site.

Many of these features weren't available to Flash artists in past versions of Flash, so a lot of the older Flash entries can be downloaded, editted, etc.

It's not really my department to try and improve our security. That's stuff LilJim and Tim deal with and as far as I know they always do everything possible to prevent this type of thing as much as they can, but some things can't be prevented short of making it so when you go to Newgrounds.com no one can view Flash. :)

thanks for the feed back, if your doing everything you can that's good in my books. possibly a different sort of flash viewer may stop source-stealing? or maybe reminding the authors to use anti-piracy may help. i still feel dirty about downloading the ultimate showdown :) just a few suggestions.

[jubedube]

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