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Momo-the-Monkey

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Java:

JAVA:

Beginner:
Java: Embeding Into Html Documents by doodle_flash

Intermediate:
Java: Arrays by seel
Java: Simple Paint Program by doodle_flash

Advanced:
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Resources:

FreeWareJava
JavaBoutique
Tutorialized Java Section

If there is anything wrong about this list or there is a bug let me know.
Keep on posting those tutorials. We can always use more :)

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At 6/9/06 12:04 PM, doodle_flash wrote:
At 6/8/06 11:46 AM, unit_243b wrote: And yes, having a program as a tutorial is good, but it must demonstrate a concept and be well documented to be effective. Like the paint program one is okay, because users can take that and add things to it themselves.
i made a paint program because people that are new to java dont want to read arrays tutorials and variables tutorials blah blah and try and make something of there own.
they need to get a program, use tutorials like arrays and variables to work out what each bit of the code does and edit it according to what they want the function to be.
i'm not saying that arrays and variables tutorials are bad, infact they are VERY usefull for more intermediate programmers.

Variables and arrays are beginner topics. An intermediate programmer would have no use for very basic tutorials like that. I see what you are saying about using them both together, and that's a common teaching practice, but you should learn to primarily invent your own programs, not how to edit others' programs to your needs. Of course when you get into team projects, building on existing classes with inheritence, and updating/debugging existing programs, that's a great skill, but beginners shouldn't focus on that.

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Well, the Beginner section is mostly for beginners. The intermediate and advanded sections aren't for beginners. Beginners shouldn't use those tutorials unless they are lazy (no offense).

We need more beginner tutorials anyway. So, instead, let's all focus on the beginner tutorials

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Another thing to recources, free Compilers, SDK's?
Here are a few,

BlueJ
I reccomend this one to all begginers, I have only been doing Java for a few
months and have been throught quite a few Java IDEs during this time.
BlueJ isnt the flashiest IDE around, but by far the easiest to use. Also
creates .jar files for you. great interface. Download it Here.

Eclipse
I found it easier to use than NetBeans, its alot less comlicated. But the tuts in
Eclipse are not very good. For the more experienced programmer eclipse is
a good thing to have, but i still reccomend BlueJ for everyone. You can
download Eclipse Here.

NetBeans
I dont like NetBeans, to complex. It has some good recourses on it none the
less, if you want to give it a try, then download it Here.

Please remember that there are no perfect Java IDEs. Have fun learning Java.

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I prefer Eclipse, but I really like the way BlueJ lays out your classes much like a UML diagram. That's very helpful for design reasons.

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Hi,

Momo_the_Monkey and I have been talking about the Java: Main, and we had an idea for a more structured application of a main thread and tutorials that involves an exterior site and email. If you are interested in making tutorials and reviewing others' tutorials, send me a pm. Hopefully after the 19th we'll get the wheels rolling, and send out pms letting everybody know. If this works, like we hope, it might be a good plan for other :Mains to follow, for better coherence and structure.

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I made a tutorial about loops, I know it is very basic, but it's a start. Maybe later on I will post about classes or methods or something.


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unit_243b and I are about to open the java main tutorial submit feature. This feature will let you submit tutorials to the heads (momo_the_monkey and unit_243b) and have it checked over before you send it in to java: main

This tool is going to be used to prevent errors and mistakes in tutorials so when you post it up to the BBS, it will be clutter free and it won't have to have 6 pages of "Oops, fix this".

To create a tutorial, you need to sign up to be an author. Only authors can write tutorials, any body else write one, and it will not go into the java: main thread.

Right now this system isn't up, but when it is, you need to sign up to be an author, and once you are on the authors list, you can submit as many tutorials as you want.

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anyone want to help with this? I know that people aren't going to learn from this (like php: main) if there're not enough tutorials...............

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At 7/25/06 09:30 PM, Momo_the_Monkey wrote: anyone want to help with this? I know that people aren't going to learn from this (like php: main) if there're not enough tutorials...............

I would make more tutorials, but people of my age arn't accepted in this forum.


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At 7/25/06 09:33 PM, doodle_flash wrote:

I would make more tutorials, but people of my age arn't accepted in this forum.

ah screw it. If you make a good enough tutorial, they will come to accept you.

sorry for the off topic ness.....
if you level up and raise your post count, people will immediately see a high status.

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I'll think about it.


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Last I checked the only Main topics allowed for this forum were PHP. When did this change? If so please slap me on the ass and call me uncle. I think you're making a Main topic which shouldn't be here.

I mean seriously, there's 2 people here that know Java.

holy jesus what are these goddamn animals


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At 7/26/06 01:10 AM, Pilot-Doofy wrote: Last I checked the only Main topics allowed for this forum were PHP. When did this change? If so please slap me on the ass and call me uncle. I think you're making a Main topic which shouldn't be here.

I mean seriously, there's 2 people here that know Java.

*slaps* Uncle Dan.

This topic came up a while ago from everybody wanting to learn Java. It was allowed, but it does not get allot of traffic.


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At 7/26/06 01:10 AM, Pilot-Doofy wrote: I mean seriously, there's 2 people here that know Java.

hmmm yeah.. And I don't even like it

"no sound in ass"


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At 7/26/06 01:10 AM, Pilot-Doofy wrote: I mean seriously, there's 2 people here that know Java.

I'm "getting better" at Java, that makes 3.


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At 7/26/06 06:50 AM, doodle_flash wrote:
At 7/26/06 01:10 AM, Pilot-Doofy wrote: I mean seriously, there's 2 people here that know Java.
I'm "getting better" at Java, that makes 3.

I doubt he counted me, so it probably makes 4.

nobody ever counts me :(

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At 7/26/06 11:21 AM, CronoMan wrote:
I'm "getting better" at Java, that makes 3.
I doubt he counted me, so it probably makes 4.

nobody ever counts me :(

yea, you're not alone. That happens with me as well..

At 7/26/06 01:27 AM, Craige wrote:
At 7/26/06 01:10 AM, Pilot-Doofy wrote: Last I checked the only Main topics allowed for this forum were PHP. When did this change? If so please slap me on the ass and call me uncle. I think you're making a Main topic which shouldn't be here.

I mean seriously, there's 2 people here that know Java.
*slaps* Uncle Dan.

This topic came up a while ago from everybody wanting to learn Java. It was allowed, but it does not get allot of traffic.

There was a lot of java questions at the time. A lot of n00b askers.

Sorry to offend you

*slaps* Uncle Dan....

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Here's a Java socket programming tutorial I wrote.

Java: Sockets


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http://newgrounds.co../topic.php?id=555387

Java: Hello, World!

In the next update can you change where it says doodle_flash to -Jordan-?


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At 7/26/06 01:10 AM, Pilot-Doofy wrote: Last I checked the only Main topics allowed for this forum were PHP. When did this change? If so please slap me on the ass and call me uncle. I think you're making a Main topic which shouldn't be here.

I mean seriously, there's 2 people here that know Java.

I'm very good with Java, and I use it all the time.

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Hey I'm interested in Java too :)

Perhaps you could make a link to the Eclipse IDE? That's a very good one for beginners, it compiles at runtime and shows you your syntax mistakes while you're coding.
(http://www.eclipse.org/)


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At 7/26/06 11:21 AM, CronoMan wrote:
At 7/26/06 06:50 AM, doodle_flash wrote:
At 7/26/06 01:10 AM, Pilot-Doofy wrote: I mean seriously, there's 2 people here that know Java.
I'm "getting better" at Java, that makes 3.
I doubt he counted me, so it probably makes 4.

nobody ever counts me :(

He proly didn't cont me either.. But thats good, i dont want to be aknowledged as a java dude.. :P (Not that i dont like it, i just dont use it).


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Wow, thanks everyone for the great tutorials. I think we have 3-4 news ones. It's actually growing. Well, let's keep on adding them!

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Apparently I messed up the link. Here's a second attempts


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grr I've had it with the link button >:(

http://www.newground../topic.php?id=555703


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At 8/26/06 03:48 AM, Togukawa wrote: grr I've had it with the link button >:(

http://www.newground../topic.php?id=555703

it's alright. I copy and pasted it anyways.

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Alright, since i have to leave, and can't moniter this, no one post anything. I'm about to update it.


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