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Tarantulas shed their shell.

I didn't know this. I didn't even know tarantulas had shells.


If you jump out of a plane and fall to the ground like a rock the fastest you can fall is 45-60m/s.

I thought it was closer to 30, but I guess you've probably Googled it before you set the question.

Can I ask what this proves? By all means try to dismiss your opponent's arguments, but trivia about spiders is totally different to stellar physics. Better questions might be
"How do you find acceleration, given a curve representing velocity" (Differentiate it)
"How do you find distance travelled given a curve representing speed against time (Integrate it)
or
"What is escape velocity, and how much fuel would an 80kg human need to reach this, given that the fuel is the oxidisation of hydrogen" (Chemical bonding)

While I have no doubt that you could answer any of these questions, I would suggest that this is the easy end of rocket science.


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The questions you asked are physics questions. She knows nothing about physics, she also claimed that all fields of physics were complicated. Probably what she was trying to imply was that they were too complicated for us to grasp, which is false.

The questions I asked are just some common knowledge questions, most people would now the answers to these. From what she said in her arguments I formed a conclusion that she doesn't know much. I mean she did make some ridiculous comments about Stalin's funeral, 18th century fashion, corruption around the world and even WWII (yea allies won because of the british). I can't even remember what she said anymore. She refused to click my links, she claimed stuff she couldn't back up. And she even posted links which had nothing to do with her point, infact they further disproved her.


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At 6/17/06 05:21 PM, facksfunny wrote: The questions you asked are physics questions. She knows nothing about physics, she also claimed that all fields of physics were complicated. Probably what she was trying to imply was that they were too complicated for us to grasp, which is false.

I'm very sorry to as this of you again, but would you mind making a new topic about this? I always assumed anyone who didn't believe the official moon-landing story was a *ahem* luner-tic, but you usually seem very level headed, so I'm prepared to say there may be more to what you are saying than the straight dismissal I would usually give. I'd be very interested in hearing your arguments, but I feel sort of guilty doing so in a thread about the Bible, which looks about to die anyway.

Anyway, I promise that's the last time I ask, and if you can't be bothered to repeat your arguments in another thread, that's entirely your perogative.

At 6/16/06 09:53 PM, Exvee wrote: You are very Jaded,you never have true" fun" on Earth without security.

This is a given, but that security dos not necesscary mean security from a spiritual power.

The aftyerlife doesn't depend on Religion, just those who belive in God.

Unless you are judged on the basis of your acts. In this case it depends on neither.


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At 6/17/06 05:49 PM, x_Toadenalin_x wrote: I'm very sorry to as this of you again, but would you mind making a new topic about this? I always assumed anyone who didn't believe the official moon-landing story was a *ahem* luner-tic, but you usually seem very level headed, so I'm prepared to say there may be more to what you are saying than the straight dismissal I would usually give. I'd be very interested in hearing your arguments, but I feel sort of guilty doing so in a thread about the Bible, which looks about to die anyway.

Anyway, I promise that's the last time I ask, and if you can't be bothered to repeat your arguments in another thread, that's entirely your perogative.

Well there was a topic about this earlier, and overall, there have been LOTS of topics about this. The old one died, and I don't think everybody will respond kindly when they see that the topic is back. If I make a new topic, it will probably get deleted or spamed with comments like "not this shit again."

If you want you can go back and read the old topic. I think it is called "Did we land on the moon." If you can't find it, tell me and I'll post a link to it. If you find something you don't agree with, tell me and I guess I'll make a new topic about it.


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At 6/12/06 08:14 PM, JadedSoB wrote:
At 6/12/06 07:58 PM, yoddtacos wrote:
At 6/5/06 04:07 PM, Masakari_Commander wrote:
So why do people believe in the Bible???
Stupitity!!!
This coming from the guy who can't even spell "stupidity." OH the irony!

Fuck I am on NEwgrounds, why the fuck should I type all words correctly!

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guys its pretty obvious what the real message of god was to all people and i do dare quote myself. he clearly said, "I was just kidding." guys come one. religion, chirstianity, judaism whatever all that stuff, is if u want to get down to the basics, a cult, just like witchcraft, if you beleiev that is bad. im not saying its the same cause one is "good" and one is "evil" (if you can even really say that). but all religion have rituals. but honestly, the bible is just a fiction book. there has never been proof that jesus exsited as anything more than a mere human being. and for some who dont know, scientist have been studying that and turns out that tricky little bastard was born in june or something like that. its basically a book on morals which people took way to seriously. it causes wars, and inhibits people, and does not let them do as they wish (for the most part). and dont even get me started on the seperation of church and state. this country is doing a horrible job on that. not that because of seperation than that means there no reason to refuse gay marrige, even tho i dont necessarily like or hate gays, i think they should just be with themselve and not involve others. but when a bible thumper far right wong conservative becomes president and says god told him in a dream that he would lead this country, well thats when you know we're all fucked.


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At 6/16/06 10:31 PM, facksfunny wrote:
Lack of gravity would be similar to what would be on Mars. Mars lacks the Earth's gravity so it's unable to have as much of a rich atmosphere. But... unlock a vacuum, most object or atleast all objects shouldn't instantly explode or implode. But that's what you get in a vaccum.
Mars has gravity. And it does have an atmosphere, allthought it is thin. There is evidence suggesting that mars had a much thicker atmosphere in the past. What held this atmosphere was it's magnetic field. Mars now has no detectable magnetic field, and had hardly any field 1.3 billion years ago, when many of the martian meteorites formed.

Did I say Mars didn't have gravity or an atmosphere. I said its the gravity that Earth possesses.


Objects won't explode in a vacuum if they can withstand the pressure.

That's only if they can withstand the lack of pressure.


We mostly use vaccums other than to clear floors, to test out equipment and to test the likely result of being in outerspace. Unfortunately I bet it's very much inhumane to simply put a human or animal into vaccum chamber and watch it's body suddenly explode or implode.
Nobody said anything about putting bodies in a vacuum.

Nobody said anything about not putting bodies in a vacuum.


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At 6/19/06 03:24 PM, Annunaki_Decendent wrote: Did I say Mars didn't have gravity or an atmosphere. I said its the gravity that Earth possesses.

"Lack of gravity would be similar to what would be on Mars." Did you not say that?

That's only if they can withstand the lack of pressure.

Um, the pressure from inside. If you put a ballon into a vacuum why does it expand and pop? Air pushes outwards, but no counter pressure, the rubber is to weak to hold it.

Nobody said anything about putting bodies in a vacuum.
Nobody said anything about not putting bodies in a vacuum.

Your logic is shitty. Nobody even mentioned bodies in a vacuum. Why are you bringing this up? What you said is similar to this: "Mars has low gravity, but I still think that Italy will lose to Czech republic tomorrow."


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At 6/19/06 11:37 PM, facksfunny wrote:
At 6/19/06 03:24 PM, Annunaki_Decendent wrote: Did I say Mars didn't have gravity or an atmosphere. I said its the gravity that Earth possesses.
"Lack of gravity would be similar to what would be on Mars." Did you not say that?

UM yeah I did but i was talking about the lack of Earth's gravity.


That's only if they can withstand the lack of pressure.
Um, the pressure from inside. If you put a ballon into a vacuum why does it expand and pop? Air pushes outwards, but no counter pressure, the rubber is to weak to hold it.

Like I said, lack of pressure from the surroundings.


Nobody said anything about putting bodies in a vacuum.
Nobody said anything about not putting bodies in a vacuum.
Your logic is shitty.

Your logic is even more shitty.

Nobody even mentioned bodies in a vacuum.

So... does that really mean anything? No it doesn't.

Why are you bringing this up?

Why re you bringing THIS up?

What you said is similar to this: "Mars has low gravity, but I still think that Italy will lose to Czech republic tomorrow."

Oh please... it's more like this to you.

"I don't understand anything you are saying to me, Annunaki Decendent. You are a crazy genius and I would like it if you would stop talking. I cannot comprehend that which you talk about."

That is what is really going on here.


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To be honest, I believe the bible is just a book of morals and tales.
Its meant to teach about ethics more then history, and the reason for some of the most bloodiest events in christian history were resulted from mis-interpretations of the bible. People believed they needed to convert pagans, and to do that they needed to defeat the pagan armies. Then they needed to persecute some pagans so the rest would follow and blah blah.
Its obvious if you look at the stories, they all double meanings or some moral behind it that we all can learn from. And if you look at the history of the bible you can see that it makes more sense.
The bible was made in a time of lawlessness, corruption, murder, betrayal. Christianity offered not only an answer to life, but also a system of rules and moral ethics.

Be kind to thy neighbor, honor thy mother and thy father, dont steal, dont murder. All of these were used to try and teach the poor and uncivilised how to act. How to better themselves. The stories in the bible were used as examples.

In the story of the Garden of Eden, Adam and Eve get kicked out for lying to god and disobeying him, they were punished for breaking a rule they swore to follow.
In the story of Moses, a 400 year old man built a huge ark simply because god told him to. He believed in himself he could do it because he knew he could (also with the story of David and Goliath).
The story of Samson, the long blue haired warrior who was unvincible because his hair connected him and god. But when he let himself get tempted by a women because of her beauty she cut off his hair and made him weak.
Even the story of going to hell and heaven symbolises the ultamite ethic.

Do good, and you get rewarded. Do bad, and you get punished.

At 6/20/06 12:07 AM, Annunaki_Decendent wrote: That is what is really going on here.

I like how in every thread you get beat in an argument and resort to idiotic statements like "NO YOUR RETARDED!". Or editing the guys post, which you did.

Faith tramples all reason, logic, and common sense.
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At 6/5/06 04:07 PM, Masakari_Commander wrote: Or any other religious book/ scripture for that matter.

Obviously the Bible is a book,

(UM...Duh...)
and I dont doubt for a second that it is as old as everyone thinks it is. However, I don't see why people believe in it without question.

(Most People Belive in their religion)

There is nothing proving it is more than a story book that caught on as a good idea and has stuck ever since.

(Nothing has proved that it is either)

And this is a perfectly possible thing to happen. Just look at Scientology. It was only created back in the 60s or whatever along with that crazy set of books, but thats caught on.

(I.....Have absolutely Nothing To Say To That....? Wow.)


So why do people believe in the Bible???

(I Think It Is Because We All Need something Or Someone To Belive In. Something To Look Foward To. Some People Have Had Some Unbelievable Miracles Happen To Them Before. Maybe When They Have A Problem That Isnt In Their Hands..They Need Someone To Ask For Help, SomeOne Who's Hands It Is In. And The Bible Provides That TO Us.)

(That And Those Annoying Door TO Door People Who Come By Your Home A And Will not let you close your door untill you have snatched an issue of some sort of magazine about JEsus out saviour and the lord christ....that, and set-up an appointment.) LOLZ

Why do people believe the Bible?


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they need a hope that their sins will be forgiven


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There was a question here about how a Book that teaches morals can be bad.
I am an atheist. I follow morality and ethics because it is the RIGHT thing to do. I don't need to be told to do so. If people are good human beings, that shouldn't need to be made to act morally because they fear something terrible happening in the afterlife.


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At 6/20/06 12:07 AM, Annunaki_Decendent wrote:
"Lack of gravity would be similar to what would be on Mars." Did you not say that?
UM yeah I did but i was talking about the lack of Earth's gravity.

"Lack of gravity would be similar to what would be on Mars." This sentence has nothing to do with earth. You said that it lacks earth's gravity in a different sentence. This one is out of context.

Like I said, lack of pressure from the surroundings.

It doesn't have to withstand the lack of pressure. It has to withstand the inner pressure. It's the inner pressure that makes a balloon pop. If you put an empty balloon into a vacuum will it pop? No. Why? Becauser there is no inner pressure. Retard take physics.

Your logic is even more shitty.
Nobody even mentioned bodies in a vacuum.
So... does that really mean anything? No it doesn't.

Why are you bringing this up?
Why re you bringing THIS up?

Wow those are some strong arguments right there. You took what I said and rephrased it.

Ok, so just becuase nobody said that we do NOT support putting bodies in a vacuum we automatically do? Fine, I'll use your logic too.

You did NOT say that you hate the KKK. So therefore you love the KKK, you especially support racism and slavery.

You did NOT say that you hate Hitler and the Holocaust. So therefore you support Hitler and his ideas.

You did NOT say that the Annunaki are NOT a bunch of 40 year old homosexual men who like to have sweaty anal orgies. So therefore the Annunaki are a bunch of 40 year old homosexual men who like to have sweaty anal orgies.

What you said is similar to this: "Mars has low gravity, but I still think that Italy will lose to Czech republic tomorrow."
Oh please... it's more like this to you.

A very persuasive argument.

"I don't understand anything you are saying to me, Annunaki Decendent. You are a crazy genius and I would like it if you would stop talking. I cannot comprehend that which you talk about."
That is what is really going on here.

Annunaki Decendent? More like Retard Descendant who can't even spell descendant in his name. Also he cannot compose simple sentences without errors. Just because you think you're a genius doesn't make it so. Infact most people who consider themselves geniuses are actually really dumb.

Everybody here will agree that your agruments are lousy. You just respond with childish remarks.

Who thinks that Retard_Descendant is a genius? Let's have a vote. Because it's really funny. He thinks he is some great philosopher filled with wisdom.


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I stand with facksfunny.


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At 6/20/06 05:29 PM, facksfunny wrote:

Who thinks that Retard_Descendant is a genius?

Those I founded.


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I don't know why they believe in it. It makes no fucking sense.


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At 6/20/06 10:18 PM, Groznik wrote: I don't know why they believe in it. It makes no fucking sense.

There's a good reason, guidance.


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At 6/20/06 05:29 PM, facksfunny wrote:

Your bogus stupidity only proves just how right I am about you. You just love talking and it doesn't matter if you are wrong, because you'll keep talking until one of us is dead. And knowwing that your opponent cannot handel such a stressful situation, you are sure you'll win in every arguement. But you fail to see such arguements amount to nothing in the end, especially when the opposition decides to ignore your gayass stupidity.

So begone, scum of the Earth. Your nihilism is ultimately too retarded to discuss about.

And have a nice day :)


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At 6/20/06 11:34 PM, Annunaki_Decendent wrote:
At 6/20/06 05:29 PM, facksfunny wrote:
Your bogus stupidity only proves just how right I am about you. You just love talking and it doesn't matter if you are wrong, because you'll keep talking until one of us is dead. And knowwing that your opponent cannot handel such a stressful situation, you are sure you'll win in every arguement. But you fail to see such arguements amount to nothing in the end, especially when the opposition decides to ignore your gayass stupidity.

I understand that it is hard to obsevre yourself from the side, but if you ask just about everybody who knows you on NG thinks that you are an idiot.

I like talking? Everybody, turn your attention to the politics forum page. Look at all the latest posts. Who posts in every topic at random with stupid remarks? I believe that would be Retard_Descendant. You always start arguments and you always lose. Not only that, when you realise that you've lost or cannot respond, you start posting stuff like "STFU RACIST." I haven't seen one argument where you have made a valid point, or made a point at all.

So begone, scum of the Earth. Your nihilism is ultimately too retarded to discuss about.

So what I see here is that you cannot respond to what I have written. You fail to prove anything and therefore you lose once again. Another loss for Retard_Descendant.


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It's fun watching people wasting their time and making a complete fool out of themselves. Good thing I have better than to do than to join in on the "fun."


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At 6/21/06 12:14 AM, Annunaki_Decendent wrote: It's fun watching people wasting their time and making a complete fool out of themselves. Good thing I have better than to do than to join in on the "fun."

Yea, you are right it is fun watching you waste your time and make a fool out of yourself.... in every thread! Oh snap.

And you said you had better things to do. Don't contradict youself there, bra.

It is also fun trying to read your deformed sentences.

Your logic is shitty.
Your logic is even more shitty.
Nobody even mentioned bodies in a vacuum.
So... does that really mean anything? No it doesn't.
Why are you bringing this up?
Why re you bringing THIS up?

LMAO. I like arguing with you, it's funy how you can't come up with descent answers. I can't wait to see what you cough up next.

BTW if you can't respond to my post, just don't. Atleast you won't make yourself look any dumber. But then again, your answers amuse me and pretty much everyone else here. Keep up the good work, clown.


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