Forum Topic: Flash stolen from Newgrounds..

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Posted at: 6/5/06 11:32 AM

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I know this is an old topic, but I've been noticing recently that a couple of popular flash are been taken from Newgrounds and then the flash is being posted on popular bookmarking sites (e.g. www.digg.com) and therefore the artist gets no recognition, even though millions are watching the flash through this bookmarking site.

For example, Animator vs Animation is currently on the frontpage of Digg.com. Digg.com gets 400-500 million hits a day. That means about 300-400 million people will watch the Flash on the site that stole it (abum.com, similar to ebaums - even the name =P) yet the author gets no recognition at all. If all these millions of people watched the Flash on Newgrounds, the authors name would become recognised as a good author and people would vote on the flash, so he could win prizes that NG has to offer (not that the flash won't, it probably will anway).

So yeah, stealing flash sucks ass.

Digg.


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Lord-Sonx

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Posted at: 6/5/06 11:37 AM

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can't the auther email these websites demanding/asking to have theri mvoie removed?

or sue them :P


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I totally agree with you. There are several swedish sites that are pretty known over here that steals tons of flash movies/games from big sites such as newgrounds, and they give no credits to the artists at all. They don't even have the source listed where they took the flash from.

This pisses me really off.


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liaaaam

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Posted at: 6/5/06 11:41 AM

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At 6/5/06 11:37 AM, Lord_Sonx wrote: can't the auther email these websites demanding/asking to have theri mvoie removed?

Well, eBaumsworld.com (the worst one) has a notice up saying that if the original author of content they have hosted on their site e-mails them asking for it to removed then they will do so, but they don't.

or sue them :P

Good plan, but I doubt many people want to take it that far - most couldn't afford it, mainly.


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Kenney

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Posted at: 6/5/06 11:41 AM

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Wise lesson; next time put your name in the movie.

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Nick

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I can see what you mean, but your never going to be able to stop it. As long as you put a link to your site in your Flash, that's just a tonne more visitors for you :P


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At 6/5/06 11:41 AM, _Nick_ wrote: but your never going to be able to stop it.

unless you put up anti stealing AS so the flahs wont play unless its hosted here at ng or your website.


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At 6/5/06 11:41 AM, liaaaam wrote:
or sue them :P
Good plan, but I doubt many people want to take it that far - most couldn't afford it, mainly.

Newgrounds needs to turn a law firm to it's cause and hire out it's lawyers to portal users who want thier toons off sites they didn't submit it to...

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What if you don't have a website :(

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Nick

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At 6/5/06 11:43 AM, Lord_Sonx wrote:
At 6/5/06 11:41 AM, _Nick_ wrote: but your never going to be able to stop it.
unless you put up anti stealing AS so the flahs wont play unless its hosted here at ng or your website.

Enlighten me as to why you wouldn't want your site and/or flash movie getting loads of visitors/views. :P


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liaaaam

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Posted at: 6/5/06 11:56 AM

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At 6/5/06 11:53 AM, _Nick_ wrote: Enlighten me as to why you wouldn't want your site and/or flash movie getting loads of visitors/views. :P

Make the flash redirect to your site if it is on somewhere you don't want it to be, simple.


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Holy crap, 500,000,00 hits a day?! are you SURE?

wait, surely thats 1/12 of the population?
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Nick

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At 6/5/06 12:02 PM, J1mp wrote: Holy crap, 500,000,00 hits a day?! are you SURE?
wait, surely thats 1/12 of the population?

The key word here is hits.

Although they must still get an incredibly large amount of uniques :P

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At 6/5/06 12:04 PM, _Nick_ wrote:
At 6/5/06 12:02 PM, J1mp wrote: Holy crap, 500,000,00 hits a day?! are you SURE?
wait, surely thats 1/12 of the population?
The key word here is hits.

Although they must still get an incredibly large amount of uniques :P

Still, fuck.

wonder how much it costs for a month of advertising... O_o

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A admin has uploaded Metal Gear Awesome at http://2009.txmafia.com/ That sucks for the authour..


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yep, put your name in it! Not puting your name on your work is insanity!

But yeah, check the sig for copyright shite.

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I agree with you. I see that cases everywhere. Actually, I just known this website existed after I saw a flash from NG in another site(OK thats good but Ithink steeling other peoples hard work is unracional


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You should throw this in to General, not enough people hang here.

And by the way, you owned thoes fuckers.

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Ya know... this should be some little rule or something. Within your flash, put in some as or something that'll put your name on it. Make the AS well hidden so that if the person tries to decompile the thing, then they would have a hard time finding the as that makes a name. :3


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Well, one way to solve the problem is to put "Made by SonicFreak12" or whatever your internet name may be. Then the thief would be required to hack your Flash to discredit it. Better yet, you could put "If this Flash is found anywhere without credit to SonicFreak12 or Danny Cooley other than dannyinc.com or newgrounds.com, it is stolen. Please email me at flan_99 AT hotmail DOT com to report theft." Of course, replace all stuff related to me with your info. And make the email address in non-spamblock format. Good solution to Flash theft, I say. :D

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At 6/5/06 11:32 AM, liaaaam wrote: a load of boring bullshit

i hope u did well on ur maths test 2day hunny xoxo MWAH


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At 6/5/06 02:18 PM, Brendan_Harris wrote: i hope u did well on ur maths test 2day hunny xoxo MWAH

I didn't have a maths test today :P


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you'd have to be a complete moron if you didnt include your name in the flash itself. So by "the artist gets no recognition" you mean they get 1 less peice of text saying their name.

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It can't be 400 million people a day. If it is, then take a look at this
http://traffic.alexa..=myspace.com/&u=

I'm sure myspace doesnt recieve 40,000 million hits a day.
Their graphs are a little hard to read.
Digg actually gets around 7,000 hits day according to this:
http://www.alexa.com..com&url=digg.com


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Posted at: 6/5/06 03:35 PM

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According to my chart it's definitely getting pie...

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Alexa is crap. They track people who have an alexa toolbar only. And the daily reach thing is Per 1000000, how many people went to that site.


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Posted at: 6/5/06 03:55 PM

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Okay, I am not an actionscripter so I do not know if this is possible. However, if it works this would be funny as hell.

The "protection" actionscript where the flash checks to see if it is hosted on a particular domain before executing I imagine would similar to the php commands

$_SERVER['PHP_SELF'];
$_SERVER['SCRIPT_NAME'];
$_SERVER['REQUEST_URI'];

Where basically you can do an if, elseif, else based on the results.

Well, how about this, write those commands in, even give access to run on localhost, but the trick would be in the "else" command. being any result that is not already covered to play (ie, not NG, whatever else you submit, your page, and localhost).

Have the else command start to run the show for about a minute (to let it slip by admins who give a cursory view before allowing it to go live on steal sites), but after that minute have all hell break loose. Purposely execute pop-ups to your site, to porn sites, stupid shit, a page explaining that the flash is stolen, whatever,

Basically a way to try and get the viewers annoyed with the unauthorized site hosting the file.

Thoughts? Possible? not sure how the actionscript works but I know I could write something like that in PHP.


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Posted at: 6/11/06 07:38 AM

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See if tou recognize this stolen game from NG. (the site is portuguese)

Stolen flash here!!


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