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Response to planned terrorism on Canada 2006-06-05 18:26:48 Reply

Replace "Peacekeeping" with "Pacfist", and you'll be a lot more accurate.

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Response to planned terrorism on Canada 2006-06-05 18:28:26 Reply

At 6/5/06 03:42 PM, BigBlueBalls wrote: Congratulations to Harper on being handed a terrorism card... just like Bush got in his first year in office. Just look at Harper's version of the "beacon of freedom" speech.

"Their alleged target was Canada, Canadian institutions, the Canadian economy, the Canadian people," Harper said. "We are a target because of who we are and how we live, our society, our diversity and our values values such as freedom, democracy and the rule of law. The values that make Canada great, values that Canadians cherish."

Hoooo boy, here we go alright... it has begun.

Terror arrests give novice leader election boost

The arrests will help Harper persuade Canadians that a closer security relationship with the US is necessary, as well as shore up support for the 2000-strong Canadian military presence in Afghanistan.

Yeah, because it's not Osama Bin Laden didn't say anything about going after Canada...

Oh wait, he did. The same Osama that has stated several times that he doesn't like the idea of church and government being seperate and declared Jihad on us.

Whether you like it or not, the reason why Islamic extremists are after us is because it's us.

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Response to planned terrorism on Canada 2006-06-05 18:28:52 Reply

At 6/5/06 06:26 PM, MarkyX wrote: Replace "Peacekeeping" with "Pacfist", and you'll be a lot more accurate.

I'm not saying we are peacekeepers more so then pacifists, but people do know us as peacekeepers more then pacifists.

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Response to planned terrorism on Canada 2006-06-05 23:43:01 Reply

Well, lets just agree we aren't known for our "Military Might" :P

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Response to planned terrorism on Canada 2006-06-06 10:33:49 Reply

Well, immediatly after world war2, Canada was the fourth most powerful country, after US, USSR and Britian.

Then, it slowly declined through 50s, 60s and 70s.....

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Response to planned terrorism on Canada 2006-06-06 15:02:29 Reply

At 6/5/06 06:28 PM, MarkyX wrote: Whether you like it or not, the reason why Islamic extremists are after us is because it's us.

Yeah I know the whole spiel, I heard it from Bush after 9/11 that they hate our freedom... but what's really sad is when the government is the biggest threat to that freedom in the event of a terrorist attack. Except that it's the government that comes up with new laws that invades privacy rights or restricts freedoms we once had, using terrorism as an excuse. I think if you want to defeat the terrorists, then don't let them take away freedoms we once enjoyed. Fine if we have increased security at airports and other sensitive areas or spend more on sting operations by the RCMP, which I applaud them for using in this case. Never a problem with attracting the enemy to you. Other than that, I don't see a reason why we have to start monitoring private citizens, without a judge's permission. Police should always require a warrent to search you. Also, unlike the U.S. Canada doesn't permit random searches, which is something I hope we can maintain. Yes we may be safer, if we all had cameras in our homes and chips in our hands, to track our movements, but I don't need that kind of pervasive protection from the government. If the government wants to protect me, then do it without invading my privacy, it's that simple.

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Response to planned terrorism on Canada 2006-06-06 15:16:18 Reply

Canadian freedoms are taking another turn for the worst.

It's an elaborate scheme to scare the working masses into submission. Forget about many of the problems that face us today, like the report that said Canadian children having extreme levels of carcinogenic chemicals in their blood, and focus on the hate to 'protect our canadian Ideals'

Lest we forget our Canadian ( and also American) Ideals.

-Promotion of diversity uniquness and equality (liberty and justice for all)
-That freedom is not just for the powerful, but for everyone

And so on...

I would like to question Harper on what they were taking away that their government has not allready hindered, either here or in the US.

We, again being us and Americans, should not play the victims. For the amount of shit we have thrown to many nations around the globe, I'm surprised more of this is not happenening. We are the oppressors, and we are the unjust.

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Response to planned terrorism on Canada 2006-06-06 17:26:02 Reply

Other than that, I don't see a reason why we have to start monitoring private citizens, without a judge's permission.

You do know the reason why this investigation started was some internet monitoring in a chatroom, right? In 2004 (the time when Paul martin was in power)?

http://www.thestar.c..amp;col=969048863474

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Response to planned terrorism on Canada 2006-06-06 17:57:05 Reply

Burn the mosques, deport the Arabs, firebomb the middle east. Problem solved.

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Response to planned terrorism on Canada 2006-06-06 18:06:34 Reply

At 6/4/06 01:48 PM, -Michael- wrote: Perfect example of an America-hating Canadian. You hate freedom, don't you.

wtf are u talking about? canada is way more free than america. ooo we cant have guns... so its safer here.... GOD FORBID IT BE SAFER! gays can get married in canada. anyone can buy beer at the convenience store. they dont card you in the french speaking places.

usa is a slave country, your jsut too stupid to realise it.

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Response to planned terrorism on Canada 2006-06-06 18:07:40 Reply

At 6/6/06 05:57 PM, -Ubermensch- wrote: Burn the mosques, deport the Arabs, firebomb the middle east. Problem solved.

Habitat: Montreal, Canada

Go away.

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Response to planned terrorism on Canada 2006-06-06 18:10:31 Reply

At 6/6/06 06:06 PM, fallen_son wrote:
usa is a slave country, your jsut too stupid to realise it.

As an informed and politically active Canadian citizen, I would say we're treading on very thin ice. The world is heading into a full-blown war of ideologies and Canada needs to wake up to take adequate measures.

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Response to planned terrorism on Canada 2006-06-06 18:14:44 Reply

At 6/6/06 06:06 PM, fallen_son wrote:
At 6/4/06 01:48 PM, -Michael- wrote: Perfect example of an America-hating Canadian. You hate freedom, don't you.
wtf are u talking about? canada is way more free than america. ooo we cant have guns... so its safer here.... GOD FORBID IT BE SAFER! gays can get married in canada. anyone can buy beer at the convenience store. they dont card you in the french speaking places.

usa is a slave country, your jsut too stupid to realise it.

I wouldn't say safer if you live in Toronto, although it is dying down fortunately.

As for the french, DO not get me started.

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Response to planned terrorism on Canada 2006-06-06 22:10:59 Reply

Mkay...1st. Vive les franco-canadiens. 2nd Canada Rocks....That's bout all I got. Thanks :)

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Response to planned terrorism on Canada 2006-06-07 14:05:00 Reply

I would hate to see Canada become a country where people from other places were unable to come here and become citizens. They don't have to be perfect, everyone makes mistakes.

But, I believe that if immigrant's come to this country and even if their children are born as Canadians, if you participate in a terrorist plot ( your child becomes a terrorist)or becomes involved with terrorism in any way you should spend the maximum sentence that can be imposed, here then deported.
I believe that terrorism should have a death penalty if a terrorist action results in the death of anyone.
If you kill any person that is going about their business, you should be executed.
As well after a conviction you are to be executed quickly (no 20 years of appeals)& all family members are to be deported to the country the terrorists ancestors are from. does not matter if born here or not, EXAMPLE-born here of an Iraqi parent,back to Iraq you go-
deport the parents, siblings, if there are grandparents,uncles aunts send them all back to the country they originated from.
This is extreme and very harsh.(and most of you won't agree)

But I believe we can not use traditional sentences on these lunatics.

They care about nothing, they are attempting to bully us into fear & submission.
The only way to stop the cruelty of a bully, is for the bully to know anything he does will be returned 10 fold.
THe catch to our system is :By commiting suicide they make themselves untouchable by the laws of our country,
so when the fact that , the law will act against your surviving family is known it could make a difference.
I have heard reports many times of how these lunatics only care about their causes. I have seen news reports from mothers proud of 'the heroic suicide bombing' carried out by their child.
So if family is all they care for, then make sure their family will suffer for their act(s).
And if Mama wants to be proud she can be so back where her ancestors come from.
Have a nice day.


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Response to planned terrorism on Canada 2006-06-07 14:41:00 Reply

At 6/4/06 09:58 AM, Makaio wrote: i mean Jesus Christ were fucking peace keepers

That made me laugh. We only send token forces on peace-keeping missions; i.e. 79 people to Rwanda, etc...