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At 6/9/06 09:09 PM, Pennmannen wrote:

At 6/9/06 08:05 PM, FunnyLittleMan15 wrote: Funny ironic post.

Why cant the arabs team up together and sell some oil. Then support their poor citizens and make a peace treaty. I know for a fact that shit and piss run through Palestinian streets. They should move to one of the many Arab countries where they can have healthcare. Arab governments give them no options because they want poor people to blow themselves up. They have huge agendas with Israel. No options lead to desperate actions.

Good idea! If israel and all the other coutries around palestina gave money to the poor around them the world would be a better place. But i who would do such a thing?

The arab countries should do that because its their people who live in horible conditions. Why cant they do that?

If Israel paid Palestinians to join their army, would they join?

Maybe, maybe not. Probably not. Why? Because israel would probably not pay Palestinians to join their army. And why would you fight for your enemies?

The other guy's point was that the Palestinians die for money. If the Israelis paid them then would they join the army?

When Jews were in desperate situations throughout history theyy didnt blow themselves up. They made money and learned to co-exist. When times were too hard, then they would move to other countries. We finally have our own country and Arabs have many countries for a long time.

There is many religions on earth, some of them dont have a land of their own. Besides i have heard that sometime in history jews was attacked and they burned down their own houses with themselves. That was before bombs was invented.

Jews did that because they didnt want to be ass-raped by their enemies, literally. After pogroms in Russia, there were bloody wounds in the vaginas of pre-teen girls caused by the attacking Russians. Israelis dont rape their enemies. They dont kill innocents for no reason but accidents or people who are associated with terrorists.

Why cant the Palestinians give up the small remaining land and have happy lives in other countries?

Why can't the people in israel give up israel and live happy lives in the USA or in other countries?

We deserve that small country because of our history and background. Others have attacked jews after many years of peace after the diaspora. The muslims have many countries that are muslim based. The jews dont have any but israel. That means that we have less than them. Muslims should help eachother out and let the Palestinians migrate to other countries.

or

Why dont they declare Israel a state and co-exist? They can be citizens of Israel.

Because everytime israel blow something up with their tanks some guy must avenge his father's death. There is also people in israel that hates arabs and they would not be happy if 100.000 arabs moved to israel.

WHY CANT THEY DECLARE ISRAEL A STATE? The army has to protect its borders.(part of war) Im not talking about having people move into israel. Im talking about including the palestinian territories into Israel. Then the Israelis could give all the benefits that Israelis have to the Palestinians. It would be called Israel but all races could live there and have equal rights.

We wont destroy your mosques or history. We havent so far because we believe that everyone should have their own beliefs.

No you have not destroyed all mosques of history. And i dont think that muslims have destroyed all synagogues of history. I belive that 99% of all muslims also belive that everyone should have their own beliefs.

Not mosques of history but mosques or history. When Israelis gave more territories to Palestinians last year, the Palestinians destroyed the synagouges and any jewish remains in the towns. They destroyed our most holy synagouges in history. They have destroyed other places throughout history. Jews have not. We never touched the dome of rock. We havent burnt down their mosques. Islamic fundamentalist declared a jihad (HOLY WAR) on the rest of the world. They hate other peoples values. September 11th was caused by those people. They hate american culture and any other non muslim thing.

We wont destroy your mosques or history. We havent so far because we believe that everyone should have their own beliefs.

Do you also believe that democratic self-determination is a fundamental human right?

At 5/31/06 05:32 PM, StLarry wrote: Well.. the unfortunate thruth is that everyone was/is/will be hated by someone. Discrimination will never die, we can fight it, but never completely defeat it.

Nobody hates Iceland.

Well, I've enjoyed this thread. I for one know I'm leaving my computer today a little more informed about the world.

That's us british for you! Hee hee!

At 6/9/06 06:39 PM, Lidov wrote:

At 6/9/06 05:33 PM, -MuTe_EcHo- wrote: Palestinians or non-Jews maybe.No offense to Jews but I hear that when Jews pass a church they spit on the ground.

Seriously, if you really believe to this shit which is said about us, even the slightest lie, this is a legitimate reason why I should never take what you say as if it is told from a reliable source. Never.
BTW, are you a christian? Because if you are, I need your blood for passover, the Arab christians are now hard to get due to us killing them for fun.

Oops,well I made a mistake in that sentence.I'm not referring to the entire Jewish population in the world.There were just reports from within Israel where Church's are located.Sorry If I gave you the impression that the entire Jewish body were taking part in this.

And I'm Muslim.

Mute please rely to my other post.

Spitting infront of Churches was an old racist jewish thing. No one does it any more. I only heard of it once because my Mother told me that one of her teachers when she was 12 told her to do that. She didnt do that and no one else does it. Its like how some old people have racial tension with black people but to a much lower level. The strange "custom" is probably over 80 years old. Im guesing that in started in Russia.

We've all seen that land reclaimation is possible, and we've got so much spare land going to waste in the form of oceans. Why not recaim israel a new island from the sea, and give palistine back it's land.

this post is not entirely serious. Chillout, k?

At 6/9/06 08:05 PM, FunnyLittleMan15 wrote: Funny ironic post.

Why cant the arabs team up together and sell some oil. Then support their poor citizens and make a peace treaty. I know for a fact that shit and piss run through Palestinian streets. They should move to one of the many Arab countries where they can have healthcare. Arab governments give them no options because they want poor people to blow themselves up. They have huge agendas with Israel. No options lead to desperate actions.

Arab unity in the Middle East would contradict US interests in the region.The US has it's capitalistic agenda there and are over there for the money.If the Arabs strengthen themselves with wealth,the US will declare it being "for dangerous or terroristic means".So your reccomendation is not that simple.There would be involvement of the US and It's control of puppet nations like Afghanistan and Iraq causing trouble for other nations trying to unite themselves and actually help their people.

If Israel paid Palestinians to join their army, would they join?

The Palestinians would find it insulting that Israel would try to hire Palestinians for military operations against their own people.

When Jews were in desperate situations throughout history theyy didnt blow themselves up. They made money and learned to co-exist. When times were too hard, then they would move to other countries. We finally have our own country and Arabs have many countries for a long time.

Your probably talking about the Jews of post WW2.The reasons why Jews in their miniscule and worn down numbers didn't fight is because they didn't have to.After WW2 the Europeans and Americans felt guilty for not preventing the Holocaust.So the Jews were put in a highly advantage posiiton.They were heard by the world.So they got their message out that they wanted their own nation.And they got it.The Palestinians on the other hand haven't had their problems recognised.The world doesn't realise that the nation of Israel was established over land people already owned and worked on.Thousands of people had lives there.But this was for the most part ignored by the world who was still teary eyed over what happened to the Jews.So now the Palestinians that remain in Israel refuse to surrender the land they still have, to the Jews that they see as invaders who really have roots in Europe,America,Russia.

Why cant the Palestinians give up the small remaining land and have happy lives in other countries?

Palestinian arabs have lived in the land since the 700s when Arabs first arrived and secured it.Palestinians were happy on this land before Israel came to be.Now that Israel was established on their land they would rather prevent anymore Israeli holdings.

Why dont they declare Israel a state and co-exist? They can be citizens of Israel.

I would imagine that It would be very hard for thousands of people to declare their land that they feel is part of them and their culture as the rightful possession to another group of people.they just aren't willing to let the land go.

We wont destroy your mosques or history. We havent so far because we believe that everyone should have their own beliefs.

This is what may be said, yet the heads of the Israeli government have different plans for the lands settled by Palestinians.Whatever the Israeli government sees fit they do.And if a religious building belonging to another religious identity is in the way they will knock it down for their own settlers.Governments aren't generous.

At 6/10/06 12:48 PM, FunnyLittleMan15 wrote: Mute please rely to my other post.

Just did.

Spitting infront of Churches was an old racist jewish thing. No one does it any more. I only heard of it once because my Mother told me that one of her teachers when she was 12 told her to do that. She didnt do that and no one else does it. Its like how some old people have racial tension with black people but to a much lower level. The strange "custom" is probably over 80 years old. Im guesing that in started in Russia.

Chances are that If I heard about it recently it is still happening, although not in large numbers anymore.While the magority Jews would not take part in this practise anymore you could still have a couple of people doing it.

i think there is a difference between BLAMING "the jews" (whatever "the jews" is supposed to mean) and trying to look at israels actions in the war objectively. "blaming the jews" implies that youre generalizing, stereotyping, and discriminating against a religious group and accusing them of something they most likely havent done. when youre discussing whats going on in the west bank etc. and happen to bring up some points against israel as a country (no matter of what religion the people in that country are) it has nothing to do with "blaming the jews". why is it impossible to say that some of israels actions arent right without being called anti-semitic?

Anti-Semitism makes me sick.

Your people have endured endless amount of bigotry for thousands of years, because of xenophobic nonsense conspiracy theories.

"OMG! Zionism is wrong! How dare they want othe rpeoples land!"

Zionism is a wonderful idea. The Jews deserve a homeland specifically because of this endless stream of racism they get inside countries.

To any Christian who is anti-Semitic. Read the Old Testament. Guess what religion it comes from?

Love thy neighbour. Especially if your neighbour is a Jew.

<3

I love how the loud angry pro-arabs actually want all 7 million jews to move out of israel just because a few extremist muslims are pissed that they have jews in their country.

Israel DOESN'T ATTACK MUSLIMS. Jews and muslims co-exist all the time in israel. I've spent months in Israel, and I saw nothing but jews and muslims getting along great. Jews and muslims are best friends many times. The government doesn't descriminate against arabs at all. News stories with conjoured-up anti-israeli "facts" don't change the fact that in Israel, ARABS ARE MORE THAN WELCOME. Most people are very happy.

But then there are the extremists who decide to blow themselves up, and the militant governments hundreds of miles away who support them.

I mean, you can hear stories of a few bad american soldiers in Iraq, but does that mean that all american soldiers are evil and hate human rights?

It's just like that. News stories highlighting some crazy incident involving a few dead people does NOT make up for actually visiting and being among the people there.

Paco are you Jewish?Just wondering.

You know it wasn't just the Jews expressing their generousity or kindness.Before the establishment of Israel, Muslims in the Middle East had a mostly positive view of Jews.In fact in the middle ages where Jews were severly persecuted in Christian Europe, Jews in many of the Muslim empires throughout history spanning from Corduba in Spain and Baghdad in Iraq found themselves in high government jobs such as advisors, financial planners,and even posiitons in the military.Saladin himself had a Jewish advisor.Anti-semitism is foreign and alien in Islamic culture since Islam itself has semitic roots.(Arabs are a semitic people).But with the placing of a Jewish state in the middle of Muslim territory it was an offensive move and a spit in the face.To the Arabs it appeared as the west had illegaly taken land without the consent of the original inhabitants.Then arming this new nation,which then proceeded to ethnic cleanse thousands of Arabs who became refugees in neighboring Jordan,and other Arab countries.

At 5/31/06 10:24 PM, Oams wrote: Jews Fuckin Suck they took my land that was givin by the prophet i'm muslim and jews destroyed everything. There religion doesent make sence blah blah star of david blah blah. WE'll screw YOU ALL FUCKIN JEWS. SOUTH PARK ROCKS IN THE WORDS OF CARTMAN FUCK YOU AND GO WATCH THE PASSIONS YOU FUCKIN JEW.

you ignorant mother fucker. the only reason America hasn't kicked your asses yet is because we can't tell the difference from your shithole homes from the shithole land you built them on. why you fuckers believe that some drug addict called muhammid "talked to god" and god gave you that shithole you call home i'll never know.

by the way i didn't know they translated south park into Iraq-anistanian. Don't dicrace that show by quoting it. south park jokes. you sandbiter will get a A-bomb droped on your heads before the end of the decade.

In the words of Stephin Colbert: If god had given me that land i'd blow myself up too.

http://www.cair-net...es/mohammeddrive.gif

I fully agree with you. Sadly, there are way too many close-minded idiots that have no one else to blame, so they blame a group of people thinking that they sound intelligent, or thinking they figured something out, but they just look like morons.

I agree with you completely.
It's nice to know some decent human beings try to stop Anti Semitiscm (i think i spelled it right)
We Jews have had more than our fair share of persecution.
It's stupid how we are continually used as scapegoats.
Just someone to blame.
I get persecuted at school just for believing what i believe.
If I was you I'd write the blaming between teh stop and the on the sign.
Stop Blaming the Jews.
What did we do wrong? Nothing!
Sorry I don't know your name who startd this thread, but you are one of the few decent human beings who deserve to see the light of day.
Anyone who disagrees with this righteous person, go back to your planet.

At 5/30/06 09:25 PM, afterdeath wrote: I've a friend who's jewish, we joke on him all the time, saying that he killed Jesus, etc., but he knows we're just playing, especially because I know history well enough. But, the current trend is to hate Jews, that's always the way its been. However, if they'd give me some of their Jew gold, I'd leave them alone.

Shut up!
Jew gold, you're just another idiot looking for money.
telling your friend to pay you so you'd sotp making fun of him
you are not a friend
just another anti semitic
have fun playing by yourself, loser!

At 6/11/06 06:29 PM, -MuTe_EcHo- wrote: Paco are you Jewish?Just wondering.

You know it wasn't just the Jews expressing their generousity or kindness.Before the establishment of Israel, Muslims in the Middle East had a mostly positive view of Jews.In fact in the middle ages where Jews were severly persecuted in Christian Europe, Jews in many of the Muslim empires throughout history spanning from Corduba in Spain and Baghdad in Iraq found themselves in high government jobs such as advisors, financial planners,and even posiitons in the military.Saladin himself had a Jewish advisor.Anti-semitism is foreign and alien in Islamic culture since Islam itself has semitic roots.(Arabs are a semitic people).But with the placing of a Jewish state in the middle of Muslim territory it was an offensive move and a spit in the face.To the Arabs it appeared as the west had illegaly taken land without the consent of the original inhabitants.Then arming this new nation,which then proceeded to ethnic cleanse thousands of Arabs who became refugees in neighboring Jordan,and other Arab countries.

In all honesty, I don't think that it was really the best thing to do, putting the jews there. The Ethiopia plan would really have been better.

But what's done is done. It can't be undone. There are too many jews living their, you can't deport 7 million people. It's also the only democracy in the middle east.

I just want people to accept how things are and to try to make them better, rather then blow shit up or suggest ridiculously idealistic and undoable ideas (The deportation of all jews from Israel, for example).

At 6/11/06 06:29 PM, -MuTe_EcHo- wrote: In fact in the middle ages where Jews were severly persecuted in Christian Europe, Jews in many of the Muslim empires throughout history spanning from Corduba in Spain and Baghdad in Iraq found themselves in high government jobs such as advisors, financial planners,and even posiitons in the military.Saladin himself had a Jewish advisor.

Jews lived under the dhimma in muslim countries. They were not seen as equals, they were subject to discrimination and abuse, they were not allowed to freely practice their religion, and more. It was not better than in Europe

Anti-semitism is foreign and alien in Islamic culture since Islam itself has semitic roots.(Arabs are a semitic people).

Anti-semitism is not foreign to Islam. Because they are "people of the book" christians and jews are seen as being a level above atheists, hindus, buddists, etc. That is why they are granted the dhimma (a set of discrimination laws that orders taxes, restricts the practice of religion, etc. on christians and jews) instead of being slaughtered. But they are in no way equal to muslims. Islam does not teach tolerance to other religions in any way, shape or form.

But with the placing of a Jewish state in the middle of Muslim territory it was an offensive move and a spit in the face.To the Arabs it appeared as the west had illegaly taken land without the consent of the original inhabitants.Then arming this new nation,which then proceeded to ethnic cleanse thousands of Arabs who became refugees in neighboring Jordan,and other Arab countries.

First, you use "arab" and "muslim" interchangably. Not all muslims are arabs, and not all arabs are muslims. There are jewish and christian arabs.

Second, the "original inhabitants" were not muslims.

Third, Israel did not arm itself and attack muslim nations, brutally murdering their populations. Muslim nations armed and attacked Israel, were beaten, invaded again, were beaten, and still call for the state's total destruction.

And Hammer_and_sickle,
you should be blamed for the environment being destroyed, sky high gasoline prices, inflation, and the homeless.
I have as much ground to stand on saying this as you do.
We both have none.
Stop looking for a scapegoat.
Instead of pointing the finger, try to help the situation.
And no, not by killing the religion who has contributed a great deal to the world.
Albert Einstein was Jewish.
Ben stiller
jack black
David lee roth
golda meir
adam sandler
steven spielburg

so stop pointing the finger, or i'll shove it up your ass

At 6/12/06 12:47 AM, Jayemare wrote:

At 6/11/06 06:29 PM, -MuTe_EcHo- wrote:

Jews lived under the dhimma in muslim countries. They were not seen as equals, they were subject to discrimination and abuse, they were not allowed to freely practice their religion, and more. It was not better than in Europe

Jews and Christians living in Muslim empires were sometimes labeled second class citisens.Yet Jews and Christians were never slaughtered,they were able to practise their faith.Yet under difficult circumstances.Where contrary in Christian lands Jews were simply murdered driven from their homes.Refused by society.This was the period of time when Jews actually left Europe for a more tolerant society.Like in Muslim society,Jews and Muslims worked together as scientists,mathematicians,literature writers.the contributions of Muslims and to a lesser extent Jews brought the Europeans out of the dark ages.

Also the view of Christians and Jews varied by Muslims due to diferent powers leading the empire.One sultan may encourage assimilation with non muslims,yet another sultan after him would take a more extreme view.

Anti-semitism is not foreign to Islam. Because they are "people of the book" christians and jews are seen as being a level above atheists, hindus, buddists, etc. That is why they are granted the dhimma (a set of discrimination laws that orders taxes, restricts the practice of religion, etc. on christians and jews) instead of being slaughtered. But they are in no way equal to muslims. Islam does not teach tolerance to other religions in any way, shape or form.

They aren't labeled a dhimma because they are people of the book.It's because they are non muslims.A tax used to be imposed on non Muslims,but there were benefits.For example, in the Ottoman empire,non Muslims living within its borders had to pay the tax but didn't have to serve in the army.Muslims had to serve in the army yet not pay the tax.It was all about ideology and what the sultan thought was right.As years passed by, you had different sultans implace laws that they saw reflected their view of how Islamic laws should be implaced.

First, you use "arab" and "muslim" interchangably. Not all muslims are arabs, and not all arabs are muslims. There are jewish and christian arabs.

I was referring to Arab Muslim.

Second, the "original inhabitants" were not muslims.

Actually the magority living in Palestine right before the migration of Jews to Israel were predominantely Muslim Arab.

Third, Israel did not arm itself and attack muslim nations, brutally murdering their populations. Muslim nations armed and attacked Israel, were beaten, invaded again, were beaten, and still call for the state's total destruction.

I didn't mean Israel invading Arab countries.I meant that the west more specifically the United States armed Israel.Israel then proceeded to ethnic cleanse thousands of people, the magority being Muslim out of Palestine to make room for Israeli setllers.Now when Arab nations declared war on Israel,they told Arabs to evacuate from the land so they wouldn't get caught in the crossfire.so many did leave.But there were events where the Palestinians were driven out of their land forcefully by Israeli settlers and soldiers.

At 5/31/06 10:24 PM, Oams wrote: Jews Fuckin Suck they took my land that was givin by the prophet i'm muslim and jews destroyed everything. There religion doesent make sence blah blah star of david blah blah. WE'll screw YOU ALL FUCKIN JEWS. SOUTH PARK ROCKS IN THE WORDS OF CARTMAN FUCK YOU AND GO WATCH THE PASSIONS YOU FUCKIN JEW.

umm........r u just kidding or are you really that fucking retarted and narrowminded?

Well, why cant we just blame every country in the world? Exept switzerland (You can't blame them because they are better than us).

At 6/10/06 03:23 PM, -MuTe_EcHo- wrote:
Arab unity in the Middle East would contradict US interests in the region.The US has it's capitalistic agenda there and are over there for the money.If the Arabs strengthen themselves with wealth,the US will declare it being "for dangerous or terroristic means".So your reccomendation is not that simple.There would be involvement of the US and It's control of puppet nations like Afghanistan and Iraq causing trouble for other nations trying to unite themselves and actually help their people.

I agree that Iraq and Afghanistan would cause problems, but what about the other Arab/Muslim countries. There are at least 12 of them in the U.N. and definetly more in the world. They could combine without being declared terrorists. Arabs aren't terrorisits by nature so no one can criticize them combining. Self determination.

The Palestinians would find it insulting that Israel would try to hire Palestinians for military operations against their own people.

If Israel became the only state and Palestinians lived among Israelis, would they join the army. Basically would the poor Palestinians join an army of a Country that replace their old one.

Your probably talking about the Jews of post WW2.The reasons why Jews in their miniscule and worn down numbers didn't fight is because they didn't have to.After WW2 the Europeans and Americans felt guilty for not preventing the Holocaust.So the Jews were put in a highly advantage posiiton.They were heard by the world.So they got their message out that they wanted their own nation.And they got it.The Palestinians on the other hand haven't had their problems recognised.The world doesn't realise that the nation of Israel was established over land people already owned and worked on.Thousands of people had lives there.But this was for the most part ignored by the world who was still teary eyed over what happened to the Jews.So now the Palestinians that remain in Israel refuse to surrender the land they still have, to the Jews that they see as invaders who really have roots in Europe,America,Russia.

Very few jews came to America after WW2. Most american jews are from Russia or Poland.
They came in the early 1900s because of the evil tsars in Russia. They came here with nothing but rose up and are sometimes rich. The U.N. created Israel through a voting process. Its the best place to have sent the Jews. Jews were already there before it was called Israel,so it wasnt a random decision. You should know the jewish history of israel before the 1900s. Canada was the second bet but there is no jewish history in canada besides a few jews who migrated there in the early 1900s (My great great grandparents)

Palestinian arabs have lived in the land since the 700s when Arabs first arrived and secured it.Palestinians were happy on this land before Israel came to be.Now that Israel was established on their land they would rather prevent anymore Israeli holdings.

They could still live together under the title Israel and the Israeli government. Palestinians is a new race compared to Judiasm. We were there under Roman rule and other rule as well.

I would imagine that It would be very hard for thousands of people to declare their land that they feel is part of them and their culture as the rightful possession to another group of people.they just aren't willing to let the land go.

What the Palestinians want is like the Americans handing the land back to the Native Americans after USA was established except that in this case, the Israelis have the original history.

This is what may be said, yet the heads of the Israeli government have different plans for the lands settled by Palestinians.Whatever the Israeli government sees fit they do.And if a religious building belonging to another religious identity is in the way they will knock it down for their own settlers.Governments aren't generous.

You just based this on your own conspiracies. The dome of rock would still be there in Jerusalem. I like how it looks and id like it if you explained its history to me.

Newcomers. This topic has become an Israel debate because people like to blame Israel thus blaming Jews again.

-The average american redneck hates every middle-easter person (thanks to bush and other brainwashing sources).
-The israeli kill lots of middle-eastern-people.
-Shouldn't they love jews?

Allso, america gives enough money to israel to give Everyone israelian about 500 dollars a year. Americans without jobs get less, lol. (or do they).

At 6/13/06 05:37 PM, FunnyLittleMan15 wrote:

At 6/10/06 03:23 PM, -MuTe_EcHo- wrote:

I agree that Iraq and Afghanistan would cause problems, but what about the other Arab/Muslim countries. There are at least 12 of them in the U.N. and definetly more in the world. They could combine without being declared terrorists. Arabs aren't terrorisits by nature so no one can criticize them combining. Self determination.

First of all the Arab governemnts themselves have issues with each other.Maybe over land or how religion should followed.They aren't interested in unity in the sense that they follow one agenda.They all have interests for their people.You can't get millions of people to agree on one solution let alone a dozen countries.Nonetheless the arabs can unite,it's not impossible.They just have to get their act together act more productive.Get on the world scene no matter what the US threatens them with.No matter how the US tries to entice some of the members to stop uniting by bribing them with money or offering the latest military technology.I do believe that if the Arabs want to really offer a legitimate solution to the Arab/Israeli coflict they need to do it in a more sober formal way.Now your probably wondering why I keep saying that the US would want to prevent Arab nations from uniting and acting like one power to solve the Middle East crisis.It's really actually simply.A bundle of nations with all that oil underneath them could go very very far.Almost to the point where they can influence the world markets,and military sales.It would no longer be the US having control or influences.The oil rich countries could become extremely wealthy almost to the point of being able to confront the US.And the US appears to be wanting to be the only superpower.

If Israel became the only state and Palestinians lived among Israelis, would they join the army. Basically would the poor Palestinians join an army of a Country that replace their old one.

Well lets say the Palestinian territories are integrated into Israel.The massive influx of Palestinians entering Israel would seriously undermine native Israelis in their own land.Statistically the Palestinian population is growing much faster then the Israelis.Eventually what would happen in Israel is that the Palestinians could become the magority and earn government jobs.This is how the Jews could eventually lose power.

Very few jews came to America after WW2. Most american jews are from Russia or Poland.
They came in the early 1900s because of the evil tsars in Russia. They came here with nothing but rose up and are sometimes rich. The U.N. created Israel through a voting process. Its the best place to have sent the Jews. Jews were already there before it was called Israel,so it wasnt a random decision. You should know the jewish history of israel before the 1900s. Canada was the second bet but there is no jewish history in canada besides a few jews who migrated there in the early 1900s (My great great grandparents)

Even very rich individuals can be very manipulative with their wealth.This is how the Zionists were able to push their agenda very far.America which after WW2 was a force to be reckoned with already could make anything happen in spite of what anyone said, successfully pushed for the establishment of Israel.the guilty Europeans also backed the US.So it was very easy for the Jews to go back to Israel.The people currently living in Israel at the time were simply sidelined by the decisions made by america.

They could still live together under the title Israel and the Israeli government. Palestinians is a new race compared to Judiasm. We were there under Roman rule and other rule as well.

I think that the Israelis and the Palestinians are 2 distinct cultures, and ethics.They also adhere to their own religons.Therefore 2 nations should be created,with one for the Palestinians.

What the Palestinians want is like the Americans handing the land back to the Native Americans after USA was established except that in this case, the Israelis have the original history.

Yes,but the Jews of Cannan are different from the Jews of todays Israel.Back then the Jews were Middle Eastern.they strongly followed their religon.But today the Israeli Jews are of European,North American descent.Also the magority of Jews are secular.Some don't even follow major Jewish laws.

You just based this on your own conspiracies. The dome of rock would still be there in Jerusalem. I like how it looks and id like it if you explained its history to me.

Sure thing, the dome of the rock

Newcomers. This topic has become an Israel debate because people like to blame Israel thus blaming Jews again.

Blaming Jews is what Neo Nazis and extemists do.And maybe a president whose behind the times.I think the world recognises what Jews have gone through.Many nations will make it illegal to voice anti-semitism such as Germany and Austria which were scaffolds for Nazism.Now just because Israel is the only nation with a majority Jewish population,and It gets critiscised for some of It's controversial actions.doesn't mean people are stereotyping Jews of the world.I mean modern day Israel aren't totaly synonyous with Judaism.I happen to have a good Jewish friend,we both respect each others religion.

At 6/13/06 05:37 PM, FunnyLittleMan15 wrote:

At 6/10/06 03:23 PM, -MuTe_EcHo- wrote:

You just based this on your own conspiracies. The dome of rock would still be there in Jerusalem. I like how it looks and id like it if you explained its history to me.

http://en.wikipedia...iki/Dome_of_the_rock

I have nothing against Jews but i feel strongly that Israel does a lot of bad shit such as killing civilians which is undeniable. One might argue that Israel is justified in it's actions. In some cases it is justified but Israeli policy must be changed, then again how can you negotiate with a country that says you don't exist.

In response to the main subject everyone needs someone to hate, I am not saying it is right but you can hate Jews and no one questions you. If we stop the acceptance of anti-semitism in society we can stop anti-semitism.

ok, i agree with Aznpanda... a bunch of people are strongly against Jews from what they see on tv, as in South Park. South Park is a funny show i admit, but they support many untrue facts and lead the viewers to believe is it true. and everyone that stated that Jews are horrible people to the society and whatever, well, hello? holocaust? do you happen to remember what happened? it just pisses me off how people misjudge people by their religion.

I find it kinda weird how Jews have had a shit time throughout ALL of human history.

Seriously, no offense to them, but i'm sure as hell glad i ain't one.