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At 5/29/06 12:21 AM, Kasualty wrote: Is the right justified to say that homosexuality is wrong? I don't understand why, isn't almost everything humans do, besides primal urges, unnatural? I mean the computer your sitting in front of was created by manipulating nature. It wouldn't be here by nature alone, so is it unnatural? And the chair your sitting on, or the room your in, and so on. And if gay sex is unnatural, because it is not for procreation then what about autosexuality and anal/oral in heterosexual relationships?

you are totally right... what is the difference between homosexuals and heterosexuals? we're all humans, homosexual or not.
the homosexual people are the same as the heterosexuals, i've always sayd that! there is nothing wrong with homosexuals, a friend always says that homosexuals are the nixect people, so, whats the difference?

you're*

At 5/29/06 03:41 PM, Wyrlum wrote: Homosexuality is a mental disease because the homosexual life style does not lead to a fulfilling life. For instance, you cannot have kids.

you can have kids, they have a tehcnique tto take eggcels from a womans body, your sperm is puut with it, and voila

At 5/29/06 03:53 PM, shi_huangdi wrote: you're*

i know, i am dutch, i don't speak very good egnlish ya know...

I'm okay with homos, just as long as they don't weird me out too much. >.>

At 5/29/06 03:55 PM, dragonfoxx wrote:

At 5/29/06 03:53 PM, shi_huangdi wrote: you're*

i know, i am dutch, i don't speak very good egnlish ya know...

...um...it was posted before you posted, how could i be correcting you, i was correcting myself.

At 5/29/06 03:47 PM, Wyrlum wrote:

At 5/29/06 03:46 PM, shi_huangdi wrote: so is having children necessary to live a fulfilling life?

For most people, yes.

Yet not everyone. I'm married, I have no kids, and we aren't sure if we want kids right now. Does that mean we are going to live an unfulfilled life?

At 5/29/06 03:41 PM, Wyrlum wrote: Homosexuality is a mental disease because the homosexual life style does not lead to a fulfilling life. For instance, you cannot have kids.

This is exactly why I don't believe in democracy anymore. People like this shouldn't be given the right to decide others' lives.

At 5/29/06 12:42 AM, CrazyDaisy wrote: Well, I don't like the idea of homosexuality. It's against the Bible, and, in my opinon, is just an excuse to have sex with someone, but if that makes your day, I got no problem with it. But Gay Marriages is another thing, I wouldn't want to grow up with two fathers...0_o

First off, the bible "denounces" homosexuality 6 times. Said book denounces heterosexuality 360 times.
Secondly, Leviticus 18:22 (the most commonly used passage to denounce homosexuality) says (in the King James version of the Bible) "You shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. "
However, what people never seem to remember is that this is a rough translation from Hebrew. The word "abomination" translates in Hebrew "to become unclean" and does not refer to sexual relations. The context of this passage refers to fertility rituals and social health practices that were commonly practiced by the Canaanites.

The second argument is that the passages of Leviticus relate to purity laws of cleanliness including identifying animals that can and cannot be eaten (such as shellfish which were unclean due to the pollutants from sewerage in the water where they lived). Other "unclean" practices include sex with a women during her menstrual cycle and wearing cloth of two fibers.

Leviticus is part of the Mosaic Laws in the Bible which are all but ignored in modern society and according to the Bible itself were rescinded by Jesus himself.

http://www.superdrew..tigayarguments.shtml

At 5/29/06 03:41 PM, Wyrlum wrote: Homosexuality is a mental disease because the homosexual life style does not lead to a fulfilling life. For instance, you cannot have kids.

Not true. Lesbians have artificial inseminations all the time. Also, I plan on adopting a child with my life partner. (Don't bother saying some shit like "noone will let you adopt their kid" because there are of foreign children that have nobody to adopt them. It's actually quite easy to adopt, as long as you're not narrow-minded and only accepting of a white baby.)thousands

At 5/29/06 02:28 PM, SupportGlobalWarming wrote: The term 'Gay" nowadays mean's stupid, so gay's are therefore 'gay', why suck a dick when you can have a perfect virgin pussy?

Gay's are so narrow-minded, don't blame them, blame there lesbian mothers..

Actually, my parents are completely and 100% straight. And being gay isn't a choice, so me not wanting a perfect virgin pussy really isn't much different than you not liking certain foods. Not really something either of us can help.

At 5/29/06 12:49 AM, TheVag wrote:

At 5/29/06 12:26 AM, Peternormous wrote:

At 5/29/06 12:23 AM, peedee wrote:

Although I feel that homosexuality is wong, I feel no need to impose my beliefs on others, so I guess I support gay marriage.

Amen!

Marriage it's self is wrong its a abusive relationship right when you get it but think about this Devourse Each gets half of each others property.

At 5/29/06 03:41 PM, Wyrlum wrote: Homosexuality is a mental disease because the homosexual life style does not lead to a fulfilling life. For instance, you cannot have kids.

Seeing that you're a fag and you can speak so expertly on this subject--
er.. oh wait.

after all... "gay" is just another way to say "happy."

At 5/29/06 05:01 PM, mofomojo wrote:

At 5/29/06 12:26 AM, Peternormous wrote:

At 5/29/06 12:23 AM, peedee wrote: Homosexuals are fags.

Thats right.

Although I feel that homosexuality is wong, I feel no need to impose my beliefs on others, so I guess I support gay marriage.

Without imposing one's beliefs on others, we wouldn't have any academic education system.

That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. Presenting FACTUAL INFORMATION on people is hardly the same as imposing a religious belief throguh denial of rights.

At 5/29/06 04:44 PM, Penal_Disturbance wrote:

At 5/29/06 03:41 PM, Wyrlum wrote: Homosexuality is a mental disease because the homosexual life style does not lead to a fulfilling life. For instance, you cannot have kids.

This is exactly why I don't believe in democracy anymore. People like this shouldn't be given the right to decide others' lives.

Nonono!

Education is the key to everything. Democracy works where education on social issues is present. People like that are the minority in more liberal places - they only actually get to "decide" how people live their lives in America.

Even South Africa has gay marriage.

I like it when people make clever posts on the BBS because THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY DO.

At 5/29/06 12:23 AM, peedee wrote: Homosexuals are fags.

obviously

Gay marriages => Allow!

At 5/29/06 06:05 PM, chocolate_penguin wrote:

At 5/29/06 04:44 PM, Penal_Disturbance wrote:

At 5/29/06 03:41 PM, Wyrlum wrote: Homosexuality is a mental disease because the homosexual life style does not lead to a fulfilling life. For instance, you cannot have kids.

This is exactly why I don't believe in democracy anymore. People like this shouldn't be given the right to decide others' lives.

That's how our system of government works; no one citizen can change people's lives independantly.

Untrue. One person can have an influence on the masses. Most people don't "really" hate homosexuality, they were just preached it by someone who does.

It's that kind of control that makes pure democracy just as bad as a republic.

3) Evolution has been proven false.

HAHAHAHAHAHA.

Where is your source for this? Bible times weekly?

At 5/29/06 03:54 PM, dragonfoxx wrote: you can have kids, they have a tehcnique tto take eggcels from a womans body, your sperm is puut with it, and voila

Kids should have both a mother and a father though. All that does it sacrifice the child's needs to the couple's needs.

At 5/29/06 03:59 PM, ReiperX wrote: Yet not everyone. I'm married, I have no kids, and we aren't sure if we want kids right now. Does that mean we are going to live an unfulfilled life?

Let's be honest here. If gay couples could have kids, most would have them and most would consider them a fulfilling part of their lives. I don't think you can argue against that.

At 5/29/06 04:44 PM, Penal_Disturbance wrote: This is exactly why I don't believe in democracy anymore. People like this shouldn't be given the right to decide others' lives.

Why? I'm not trying to deny anyone's rights or anything. Apparently, the only reason you think that is because you don't like my views on homosexuality.

At 5/29/06 05:23 PM, fli wrote: Seeing that you're a fag and you can speak so expertly on this subject--
er.. oh wait.

*sigh* I don't see why I have to be homosexual to legitimately hold this opinion. There are a lot of homosexuals who would agree with me; I just don't expect them to post here saying that.

At 5/29/06 12:26 AM, Peternormous wrote:

At 5/29/06 12:23 AM, peedee wrote: Homosexuals are fags.

Thats right.

Although I feel that homosexuality is wong, I feel no need to impose my beliefs on others, so I guess I support gay marriage.

That doesnt make sense. It would make more sense if you said I oppose gay marriage but I dont care about homosexuality and what they do in bed.

At 5/29/06 07:54 PM, PsychoPilot wrote:

At 5/29/06 12:26 AM, Peternormous wrote:

At 5/29/06 12:23 AM, peedee wrote: Homosexuals are fags.

Thats right.

Although I feel that homosexuality is wong, I feel no need to impose my beliefs on others, so I guess I support gay marriage.

That doesnt make sense. It would make more sense if you said I oppose gay marriage but I dont care about homosexuality and what they do in bed.

Voting against gay marriage is a fine example of forcing your beliefs on someone.

At 5/29/06 08:07 PM, Penal_Disturbance wrote: Voting against gay marriage is a fine example of forcing your beliefs on someone.

No, voting for gay marriage is a fine example of forcing your beliefs on someone.

Actually, let's be honest, they are both fine examples of forcing your belief on someone, which is acceptable in a democracy.

Why? I'm not trying to deny anyone's rights or anything. Apparently, the only reason you think that is because you don't like my views on homosexuality.

The problem is your "views" are invalid as they contradict reality. Homosexuality is not a disease, and I'm not even sure where I should begin with that, it's such an obvious thing. I'm sick of people bitching that people see their prejudice, or in this case, delusion, as a bad thing. If you don't like it, try removing the stick from your ass and make way for a metaphorical penis.

At 5/29/06 08:07 PM, Penal_Disturbance wrote:

At 5/29/06 07:54 PM, PsychoPilot wrote:

At 5/29/06 12:26 AM, Peternormous wrote:

At 5/29/06 12:23 AM, peedee wrote: Homosexuals are fags.

Thats right.

Although I feel that homosexuality is wong, I feel no need to impose my beliefs on others, so I guess I support gay marriage.

That doesnt make sense. It would make more sense if you said I oppose gay marriage but I dont care about homosexuality and what they do in bed.

Voting against gay marriage is a fine example of forcing your beliefs on someone.

Voting doesnt force anything when it comes from diffrent groups of people, its a matter of respecting the citizens vote if its for or against. Your only forcing your beliefs on somone when your making someone vote against their own will but there is little chance of that ever happening in this country.

No, voting for gay marriage is a fine example of forcing your beliefs on someone.

That's even more nonsensical than what you said before. How am I forcing my beliefs on someone? IT DOESN'T AFFECT ANYONE BUT HOMOSEXUALS. I can't cater for people who already have made their minds up they're going to be "affected" by it. They hardly count.

If you vote against gay marriage, you're preventing gay people from marrying because of your personal beliefs. That is forcing your beliefs on someone.

Actually, let's be honest, they are both fine examples of forcing your belief on someone, which is acceptable in a democracy.

I covered that above. Plus, you seem to believe that it's not only equal, but a finer example, which is ludicrous. It's not that I disagree with your "views", it's that they're ridiculous and don't follow logic or factual information.

So, out of nowhere, for ABSOLUTELY no reaosn at all, billions of cells in every single animal's body that ever lived evolved at the same time for absolutely no reason?

Wow, you have absolutely no idea how evolution works. You don't seem to understand the concept of natural selection, which is simply astounding, or random genetic mutation. You talk about how it was "proven" wrong yet every scientist and sane person in the world believes it to be true, and your assheaded assumption based on lack of information suddenly becomes fact?

Voting doesnt force anything when it comes from diffrent groups of people, its a matter of respecting the citizens vote if its for or against. Your only forcing your beliefs on somone when your making someone vote against their own will but there is little chance of that ever happening in this country.

That's entirely incorrect. If you legally vote against gay marriage, you are saying, yes, they state should prevent them from recieving the same benefits and titles that straight couples do. You are LEGALLY ADVOCATING discrimination. You are saying that gay people should continue to have lack of marriage forced on them. To think that's anything but forcing your beliefs on someone albeit in a cumulative group based fashion is nonsense.

People are destined to be homosexual based on the chromosomes in their cells. Homosexuality has also been said to have been contagious if a victim is near a homosexual too long.

Okay, so you're joking, thanks for clearing that up.

So if the state sets up something where gays recieve the same benifiets and some sort of title like a heterosexual marriage even though it would would have a diffrent name than marriage. It would take place in church or a jewish wedding cerimony so the two would be comfortable and be treated just like a marriage would that change anything, just asking how you would feel about that since your a homosexual and you have you own personal views about stuff in gay related situations.

At 5/29/06 06:02 PM, chocolate_penguin wrote:

At 5/29/06 01:50 PM, Doitzel wrote:

At 5/29/06 01:10 AM, chocolate_penguin wrote:

Morality's basis is individual freedom.

Wrong.

http://dictionary.re..om/search?q=morality

Wow, so now we get into a semantical debate. God, I love these! People so secure in their knowledge have to run to dictionary.com.

It defines morality as conduct based on a conception of right and wrong. This concept normally comes from social rules and all that BS. But where it is really derived from is an individual's striving for freedom. "Right" as a concept doesn't really exist. Only wrong does - "right" is the absence of wrong. That said, any action you take that does not infringe upon the rights, freedoms, and liberties of other people is not an immoral action.

Really? I know it did, fucktard, but you failed to answer my question: what makes something immoral? If I go out and kill someone you could say it's not good but HOW AND WHY isn't it good. If you think gay marriage is allowed, anything immoral should.

See above. You obviously totally misintepreted my first post because I said the exact same thing there, essentially. Go back to school and learn some reading comprehension.

Go crawl back into your hive and keep laying your eggs if you're not going to evolve with the rest of us.

1) Humans don't lay eggs.
2) I'm male.
3) Evolution has been proven false.
4) If evolution existed I could not control the rate of which I evolved.
5) I'm not really that Christian.
6) I don't follow everything the Bible says to.
7) I haven't been brainwashed into thinking that something is virtuous because others say so.

You totally missed the allusion to your being a roach. Just like all others of your bigoted type, you refuse to evolve but will outsurvive us all.

I love this reponse, I laughed at how angry you got mad and mindlessly insulted and stereotyped me:

Well perhaps if you hadn't equated homosexual desire with murder you wouldn't have offended anyone? I was merely making an observation that everyone seems to come up with the same idiotic, flawed arguments on this topic. I didn't categorize you - it was your own doing.