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Homophobe is a word pioneered by leftwing lysenkoism fanatics so they can enforce a sort of one-mindedness. By making up the word "homophobe" and making it seem like being anti-gay is a thing that is as bad as racism.

And why isn't it exactly? Why is it acceptable to discriminate against homosexuals and not black people? Discriminating against their "practice" is the same damn thing - it's still limiting against THEM and what should be their given rights.

Personally I couldn't give less of a shit of being a "homophobe," but most people are afraid of the world because lefties have indoctrinated people into believing such a thing is a sign of intolerance.

It IS a sign of intolerance. What the hell else is it? There is practically no logical base for homophobia. All your "argument" is, is a bullshit reactionary mechanism because you can't deal with being in the wrong. So you just take the oppositions argument - or one of them - that homophobia is indoctrinated - which it it IS, by parents and certain preachers(who exactly is the left "worse equivellant" here?), and reverse it. You can't defend your own actions. It's ridiculous. I'm getting tired of people pulling that one.

Do you actually believe that stupid word existed fifty years ago? It's a B-U-L-L-S-H-I-T M-A-D-E-U-P word.

"Google" is a made up world. Are you going to argue that the left made up Google too? In fact, people made up languages too. What a whole load of horseshit verbal and written communication is.

i agree but on a side not google is a real word its that really big number spellings differ googol is another spelling

Ignorance is BLISS!

At 5/29/06 04:54 AM, Flashthinker wrote: Ignorance is BLISS!

Have you noticed CajunSpirit seems to be very happy all the time?

At 5/29/06 01:27 AM, user001b wrote: i agree but on a side not google is a real word its that really big number spellings differ googol is another spelling

I believe the real word is "Googleplex" or something ridiculous like that. And it's a more recently made up word too.

GunCrave

On Homophobe being made up...

All words are made up. Words are symbols. They are signifiers. People introduce new words to encapsulate a more complex idea so that we all don't have to repeatedly define what we are talking about. Natural progression of language. It can be meaningless. Jabberwocky. To say that Homophobe is meaningless is to say there is no one who fits it's definition.

ho·mo·pho·bi·a
1) Fear of or contempt for lesbians and gay men.
2) Behavior based on such a feeling.

Is there no one who fits this description? I know a couple. So, not meaningless then.

But, that's not even what you said. You said the word was bullshit. A word cannot, by it's nature, be bullshit. Bullshit is a single word 'lying'. It means that no matter how the word is applied it is false. If you call me a homophobe it works, but if you call someone who does show fear and contempt for homosexuals then it is not a lie.

You constantly speak on the behalf of a generalized 'Liberal'. There are no doubt many liberals here. I consider myself one. You then, on the behalf of a group to which you don't belong, accuse yourself by proxy. It's the most fucked up reasoning system ever.

How can you say we hate homophobes, any more than you (in our voice) say we stereotype the people we label? You have to be a hypocrite to even imply 'liberals hate homophobes(a word that is bullshit)'. It's so convoluted and scarry.

You know what works though?

Explaining why you hate (and you said 'hate' in your own words) homosexuals. And we can then tell you that you're stupid. Then you will not have to put the words into our mouths. But remember we are not hating a group. Just you. And it's not a faceless group that thinks you're stupid. Just those of us here that do.

you are really deep for a guy with piss of for his comments your right about all those things and the world would be better if it was a stricter place

I think Guncrave's contempt for the word just shows what a ridiculous example of a human being he is, with no respect for anyone truly different from himself.

One of his latest posts was ridiculous. If he pulls that again someone should report him.

At 5/29/06 01:47 PM, Penal_Disturbance wrote:

At 5/29/06 01:27 AM, user001b wrote: i agree but on a side not google is a real word its that really big number spellings differ googol is another spelling

I believe the real word is "Googleplex" or something ridiculous like that. And it's a more recently made up word too.

Googleplex is 1 with a google zeros a google exsist too

At 5/29/06 02:52 PM, Penal_Disturbance wrote: One of his latest posts was ridiculous. If he pulls that again someone should report him.

Ahh, am I hurting your feelings? Need to tell on me little weakling?

At 5/29/06 04:25 PM, GunCrave wrote:

At 5/29/06 02:52 PM, Penal_Disturbance wrote: One of his latest posts was ridiculous. If he pulls that again someone should report him.

Ahh, am I hurting your feelings? Need to tell on me little weakling?

No, you're hurting my sensibilities. Plus you're one of the worst trolls I've ever seen. I'm looking through your last few posts. For every animal yyou don't eat, I'm going to eat three? Metally Handicapped people are useless? Europe a shtihole comparable to Ethiopa(The standard of living in western europe IS higher than in the US, and this is a fact, by the way, all your "Hard work" idealogy bullshit comes at a price).

You think you're so fucking badass having all these HARDCORE views that the WISHY WASHY liberals would never had. You spend so much time trying to be a badass with your views, that pay absolutely no attention to how incredibly retarded they are. OH BOY I'M A TOUGH GUY ON THE INTERNETS. Really, NEVER seen that one before. Unfortunately some people judge things on a scale that isn't based on how much you think with with your dick.

And besides, the post I was referring to contained the line "Contract AIDs and drop dead, you fucking faggot." That really sums up the kind of person you are, I think. You've yet to display a single redeeming feature on these boards. You only provoke people and shouldn't be allowed anywhere near them.

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i agree

At 5/20/06 05:58 PM, Cajunspirit wrote: We live in a world today where moral and values are rarely found.

Where whores and homosexuals are glorified and looked upon as role models.

Where money and power is the driving force towards success.

We have bad parenting, where children get their way. Hence they grow up to do what they want and are subsequentially jailed or disregarded for it.

Where we have an incredible increase in sexaul activity, further increasing the spread of Sexual Transmitted diseases and the Human Immunodeficiency Virus.

Where youth are disrespectful and ingrateful.

Where people bash religions in narrow mindedness from something they hear or have seen.

Where all our information comes from a box emitting pretty pictures and audio. Which we never question.

People no longer think for themselves, but only follow the crowd. Those with antithesis are thrown to the side and insulted.

Children bear children, because they were usually not brought up properly. Hence their sins and ill knowledge of the world is passed on to the next generation further increasing the mass idiocy we see everywhere.

These are what I can think of at the moment. I would like to learn of others, please post your theories or comments on what has been referenced here.

*Sigh* the ignorance in the world today is just horrible. First off, I am gay. I don't give a F*CK what anyone else says, it is NOT a choice. I'm not promoting some gay agenda. Go ahead and be straight. I don't mind in the least. In fact, I hope that you all ARE straight, because then you don't have to put up with the shit and ignorance that I do.
In fact, I'm not even pro-gay marriage. Here's what would work MUCH better: Everybody (straight couples included) get what are called Civil Unions under the law. Everybody then gets the legal benefits of marriage equally. Then, if a couple wants to to have the title of "married", go to your church and have the ceremony. Churches WILL be allowed to deny the service to any couple for any reason they see fit. As far as I can tell, this plan is pretty much flawless. Gay couples get the equal rights, there is a separation of church and state, AND straight churches that are against gay marriage don't have to marry gay couples.
Please respond/discuss.

I don't like when gay people take on that defeatist attitude. Why should you be only stuck with civil unions? It's the most patronising thing ever.

At 5/29/06 04:46 PM, Penal_Disturbance wrote: I don't like when gay people take on that defeatist attitude. Why should you be only stuck with civil unions? It's the most patronising thing ever.

It baffles me why the hell a homosexual would want a Christian marriage in the first place.

At 5/29/06 06:11 PM, pretentious_asshat wrote:

At 5/29/06 04:46 PM, Penal_Disturbance wrote: I don't like when gay people take on that defeatist attitude. Why should you be only stuck with civil unions? It's the most patronising thing ever.

It baffles me why the hell a homosexual would want a Christian marriage in the first place.

... why does it have to be a "Christian" marriage? And why can't homosexuals be christians?

At 5/29/06 06:23 PM, Penal_Disturbance wrote:

At 5/29/06 06:11 PM, pretentious_asshat wrote:

At 5/29/06 04:46 PM, Penal_Disturbance wrote:

... why does it have to be a "Christian" marriage? And why can't homosexuals be christians?

First off it doesn't have to be a christian marraige.

Second, practicing homosexuals aren't christians.

At 5/29/06 06:23 PM, Penal_Disturbance wrote: ... why does it have to be a "Christian" marriage?

It doesn't.

And why can't homosexuals be christians?

I didn't mean that. In fact, it baffles me why anybody would want a Christian marriage.

At 5/20/06 06:49 PM, click_worm wrote: and are you one of those people that does everything there told by whoevers in authority?and by the way not many people deserve respect

Thats right they have to be rich to earn respect=)

Second, practicing homosexuals aren't christians.

Uh, why not?

Going by that reasoning, neither are "practicing" heterosexuals.

At 5/29/06 07:14 PM, Penal_Disturbance wrote:

Uh, why not?

Actively denying the teachings of the bible.

When I mean actively, I mean knowling doing it repeatedly, not just a one night stand deal.

Going by that reasoning, neither are "practicing" heterosexuals.

Why, adultery is a married person having sex with someone outside of thier relationship. If your not married, your technically not commiting adultery. But likewise, if your catholic, sex outside marraige at all is prohibited.

You don't have to follow the Bible word for word to be a Christian. Also, it denounces Heterosexuality so many times you KNOW it's clear, unlike vague and probably mistranslated Leviticus passages.

At 5/29/06 08:25 PM, Penal_Disturbance wrote: You don't have to follow the Bible word for word to be a Christian. Also, it denounces Heterosexuality so many times you KNOW it's clear, unlike vague and probably mistranslated Leviticus passages.

It denounces adultery, not heterosexuality persay. Sex outside marraige was immoral both know and then.

And the bible denounces homsexuality in more parts then Leviticus but thats beside the point.

If you meaningly partake in the sin reapetedlly and you know full well that it's a sin, then your not a Christian.

Having a one night stand then feeling sorry for it is different.

It is the same with all sins, no matter the sexuality or race.

At 5/29/06 08:35 PM, YankeeFli wrote:

At 5/29/06 08:25 PM, Penal_Disturbance wrote: You don't have to follow the Bible word for word to be a Christian. Also, it denounces Heterosexuality so many times you KNOW it's clear, unlike vague and probably mistranslated Leviticus passages.

It denounces adultery, not heterosexuality persay. Sex outside marraige was immoral both know and then.

And the bible denounces homsexuality in more parts then Leviticus but thats beside the point.

If you meaningly partake in the sin reapetedlly and you know full well that it's a sin, then your not a Christian.

Having a one night stand then feeling sorry for it is different.

It is the same with all sins, no matter the sexuality or race.

So only someone without sin can be a Christian. Yet Christianity teaches that all men are sinners.

Someone needs to read this site; http://www.religious..nce.org/homosexu.htm

At 5/29/06 08:40 PM, Penal_Disturbance wrote:

At 5/29/06 08:35 PM, YankeeFli wrote:

At 5/29/06 08:25 PM, Penal_Disturbance wrote:

So only someone without sin can be a Christian. Yet Christianity teaches that all men are sinners.

Were you paying attention to what I said. If your commiting a sin, willingly and with full knowledge of what you are doing, then at that time, you aren't a christian.

You can repent for it later, which is the lessons that Christ taught us.

Someone needs to read this site; http://www.religious..nce.org/homosexu.htm

Just pull out your point because for the last couple of posts i've been labeling a lot of people that call themselves christian.

Were you paying attention to what I said. If your commiting a sin, willingly and with full knowledge of what you are doing, then at that time, you aren't a christian.

Um, that's bullshit and you're just being an arrogant little sod at this stage. Just about everyone does something like that. Considering homosexuality is undebatedly not a "Chosen behaviour" homosexuals are at a naturally unfair predisposition compared to straight people.

Sorry, but you're just being a jackass. If you follow the teachings of Jesus and believe in God(and that Jesus was his son or somehow else related in some mad metaphysical way we can't understand) and the general message of the bible then you're a Christian.

You're invoking the "No True Scotsman" fallacy, using irrelevant information to define an archetype to suit your bias towards your own notion of what Christianity really is(regardless of whether you're for or against it).

http://en.wikipedia...iki/No_true_scotsman

At 5/29/06 08:44 PM, YankeeFli wrote:
Were you paying attention to what I said. If your commiting a sin, willingly and with full knowledge of what you are doing, then at that time, you aren't a christian.

Then, during much of evey "Christian"'s life, they are actively denying their faith, and are thus not christian?

You can repent for it later, which is the lessons that Christ taught us.

So it doesn't actually MATTER that people aren't "Christian" except at the very end of their life when they repent? So it doesn't even MATTER that you consider homosexuals as "not-christian". Since the only point at which it matters is at the end. I could be a practicing Satanist, forsaking EVERY lesson in the Bible, being the most evil of men... repent on my deathbed and get the ultimate reward. As such, we can't say that ANYONE is a "practicing christian"... and as such cannot allow them a "christian marriage"?

Your logic seems flawed... please correct me if I'm wrong in extending what I think is your train of thought...

Oh, and on the issue of homophobe being a bullshit word... everyone can be quiet about it... Occluded won that topic.

At 5/29/06 08:55 PM, Penal_Disturbance wrote:

Um, that's bullshit and you're just being an arrogant little sod at this stage. Just about everyone does something like that. Considering homosexuality is undebatedly not a "Chosen behaviour" homosexuals are at a naturally unfair predisposition compared to straight people.

How is it bullshit. If I call myself a muslim but don't follow the laws does that mean i'm muslim, of course not.

Likewise, If i'm Christian, and I don't follow the laws, does that make me a Christian.

And If you do commit the sin, you repent and try not to do it again.

And the whole gay thing, being gay isn't a sin at all.
The act is.

Sorry, but you're just being a jackass. If you follow the teachings of Jesus and believe in God(and that Jesus was his son or somehow else related in some mad metaphysical way we can't understand) and the general message of the bible then you're a Christian

And you got that right, of believe in Christ/God( it's the trinity lass, you know father, son and the holy ghost) and follow the words of Christ.

Bullshit. Wearing a cotton-polyester mix is just as abhorrant in the Bible as homosexuality(presuming the meaning most people take is even true). I guarantee you've done that, have continued to do that, and have never repented for it. There's so many bits and pieces like that in the bible that I guarantee you defy without a second thought on a regular basis.

In conclusion, you're a complete assjacket.

Penal your arguing something that can't be won in either sense or side of the argument. So i'm mearly going to leave this before this gets out of any more controll alright. In the Roman Catholic sense(my faith) this is all that is needed to be a Christian-Catholic.

The Profession of Faith (the Creed)
The Celebration of the Christian Mystery (the Sacred Liturgy, especially the sacraments)
Life in Christ (including the Ten Commandments)
Christian Prayer (including the Lord’s Prayer)

Thats all, the Apostles Creed, Mass, trying to follow the Ten Commandments and the words of Christ, and prayer, that is all thats needed.

The thing is, denying yourself one of these is in effect denying yourself from God, but you can always return. I don't harrass or criticize people that are born gay, you could look at it that it could be a challenge in some sense, denying yourself a strong urge for God, a test by the lord.