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At 5/13/06 12:36 AM, SolInvictus wrote: that was my first reaction. but i have to say that for terminally ill patients suffering imensely i doubt becoming addicted and dying sooner is that big a dilemma (though obviously some want to take their time leaving). when you think about it isn't it odd how patients who are slowly dying from a painful illness still have to follow laws that are meant to protect them from themselves.

How is the legal standing of euthanasia in the US? It's an option for those who don't want to suffer, provided both active and passive euthanasia is legal.

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You know every year 80 to 90 % of the worlds heroin is made in Afghanistan. Although it's fairly impossible to measure, how much of that do you think is going to fund terrorism? I'de say a hello of a lot.

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At 7/3/08 03:51 AM, Sajberhippien wrote: How is the legal standing of euthanasia in the US? It's an option for those who don't want to suffer, provided both active and passive euthanasia is legal.

its an option but euthanasia has some nasty side-effects, such as death, which isn't what all terminally ill and chronically suffering patients are interested in.

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At 7/3/08 03:52 AM, Me-Patch wrote: You know every year 80 to 90 % of the worlds heroin is made in Afghanistan. Although it's fairly impossible to measure, how much of that do you think is going to fund terrorism? I'de say a hello of a lot.

Right, so we wouldn't want to make it legal, otherwise it would be produced by a domestic corporation and the terrorists would lose all that funding that they sorely need.

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So you want it legalised for medical uses? Dunno about in the US but it's legal in the UK under the name diamorphine. There's actually shortages of it though as all famers that grow the poppy's or whatever it is that you use to make the stuff are selling to drug dealers rather than the like sof the NHS as they get more money that way.

I'd be very surprised is diamorphine wasn't availiable in the US a prescription medicine as it's main use is as a way to control the access addicts have to heroin, so they can be weened off of it and rehabilitated.


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if you werent a addict yourself you would realize herione does harm to the body, particularly the circulatory and nerve systems legalizing herione would INCREASE deaths particularly if used in hospitals seeing as the patients are already in medical trouble also people with cancer arent necessarily going to die from it.

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No. Legalize euthanasia.

When you're in that much pain, it's time to just die.

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I don't think there's anything wrong with the legalization of heroin for medical purposes.People with terminal illnesses ARE going to die,and if there's a way to ease the painful process of conscious dying then it should be pursued.But I also believe that the legalization of all recreational drugs should be legalized.All drugs can be used for pleasurable purposes with very minimal consequences if they are enjoyed in responsible quantities.Excessive use of drugs can be very detrimental to mind and body,often resulting in dependence,but is the same not true for chocolate?Look at the 600 pound people that flaunt themselves on talk shows like Maury and Montel.These people are not suffering from the evil and addictive effects of Cheetos or Twinkies.People that suffer from depression,loneliness,a sense of societal rejection,past trauma,etc. are shown to be more likely to become dependent on things that increase their sense of well being.Whether it be drugs,food,TV,video games,or forums things of that nature,being over-indulgent leads to negative life trends,poor health,and anti-social behavior.Putting the blame on a chemical is an easy way to scape-goat the problems our society faces,but with strength of will and heart and mind,humans can easily overcome any difficulty that they may face.If we as a people can become more mentally equipped to overcome negative circumstances,then eventually we may one day be able to use drugs for the exciting effects they have on us and simply put them down like the play- things they are and move on with our regular routines.(people still have a very difficult time enjoying the legal drug,alcohol,without going out on the roads and killing others or taking their own lives with excess)Of course those of you who have been programmed to repeat what the media/government/society dictates will naturally have a rebuttal filled with all sorts of anti-drug buzzwords and other such "above the influence" nonsense,but anyone with a valid opinion should respond.

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At 5/12/06 08:31 PM, TheArmyOfOne wrote: Waffles are better than French toast. Now that I got that off my back its for me to turn your attention to why I belive heorine should be legalized.
Herione is the strongest painkiller, stronger than morphine, or anything a hospital can give.And it should be given only to patients with terminal illnesses
The US does not want people to become addicts but people with illnesses like a cancer dont have any reason to be worried of addiction because soon they will die. And they shouldnt be forced to live with so much pain that weaker medicine wont calm.
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i belive you need to study up on your drugs you see heroin maay be a good pain killer but it also
some ver VERY bad drawbacks to it such as withdrawl symptoms can occur with in 6 to 24 hours
so do you reaaly want them in more pain the side effects are depression ,sweating, malaise priapisim , insomnia ,vomiting ,dihharhrea , seizerures , cardiac aresst , DTS and other life threating
side effects the answer is marijuana or as i call it toke n choke weed

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At 7/3/08 03:42 AM, Irukandji12 wrote: Two words: Kurt Cobain

Don't forget Nikki Sixx his book shows how brutal heroin damages you.

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Excuse me OP, but have you ever experienced our latest in medical anesthesia?

With the stuff we have these days, we really don't need heroin. Last time I was given anesthesia, I couldn't get my eyes to focus, the world was spinning, and I felt like I was floating. There was no sensation of the robe on my skin, and there was a real hard to hear echo from the sounds around me.

Its incredibly difficult to describe the whole experience, but if you have been there, you know that the shit they give you is more than enough to relax you and not worry about any pain.


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At 7/3/08 12:41 PM, MercatorMap wrote: Its incredibly difficult to describe the whole experience, but if you have been there, you know that the shit they give you is more than enough to relax you and not worry about any pain.

you're not too familiar with chronic pain are you?

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At 7/3/08 01:16 PM, SolInvictus wrote:
At 7/3/08 12:41 PM, MercatorMap wrote: Its incredibly difficult to describe the whole experience, but if you have been there, you know that the shit they give you is more than enough to relax you and not worry about any pain.
you're not too familiar with chronic pain are you?

Actually I am. I've got a genetic disease known as "Crohn's disease"

Its terrible on the stomach and intestines. Chronic gas that smells like something literally died, and stomach cramps so hard that you have to puke.

Did I mention the sometimes bloody diarrhea?

Fortunately I take pills for the condition that hold it in check, but sometimes you can't control a flare up. And believe me, you WILL miss your brother's wedding because of that type of pain.


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At 7/3/08 01:30 PM, MercatorMap wrote: Actually I am. I've got a genetic disease known as "Crohn's disease"

well its not what i meant by chronic pain, but that does qualify. i was refering to people suffering either from disease induced pain or from an unknown source for which ordinary painkillers have little to no effect. as in they're passed out with the amount of anasthesia in them but it isn't doing much.

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At 7/3/08 01:34 PM, SolInvictus wrote:
well its not what i meant by chronic pain, but that does qualify. i was refering to people suffering either from disease induced pain or from an unknown source for which ordinary painkillers have little to no effect. as in they're passed out with the amount of anasthesia in them but it isn't doing much.

If they are passed out, then they don't feel the pain do they? Ether FTW.


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At 7/3/08 01:57 PM, MercatorMap wrote: If they are passed out, then they don't feel the pain do they? Ether FTW.

as i said, they do.

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At 7/3/08 02:11 PM, SolInvictus wrote:
At 7/3/08 01:57 PM, MercatorMap wrote: If they are passed out, then they don't feel the pain do they? Ether FTW.
as i said, they do.

How is that so? Please, cite your sources.


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