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Posted at: 5/14/06 01:32 AM

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i am a bit jealous of the guy. at 12she's probably really tight. mmm

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At 5/14/06 01:11 AM, HeinousDude wrote:
And they do believe so, judging from the paper. Yes, they're bad parents and they probably don't know it, that doesn't necessarily mean the parents who would adopt the baby would certainly be better parents.

You do have a good point there. But I see it this way, would you buy a car from a dealership that has a bad reputation, for cheating it's customers; or do you go to a dealership you've never been to before? Do you go to a place that's extremely likely to screw around, or a place that MIGHT screw around?

You only pointed out indications of her potentially being a bad parent. You have not proven it. Remember these standards are just characteristics that are gathered up from a number of bad parents. We come up with the pattern, the patterns don't follow what we make up. Nobody expected Seabiscuit to win either, and that was a true story.

I believe those indicators do prove that she'll make a bad parent. The thing with Seabiscuit is, that horse was willing to train hard to be a Champion. This 12 year-old has exhibited zero positive traits. (And no; I don't consider wanting to keep her baby, instead of giving it up for adoption, as a positive trait). There is no indication that she plans on working hard to give her baby a good upbringing........ even to the incredibly limited extent to which an immature 12 year-old child CAN give a baby a decent upbringing.


This argument is getting off topic. The main thing is you don't think a 12 year old is mature enough to raise a child. Her parents have proven that people can be old and still be bad parents, why must there not exist an opposite exception?

I don't see how we're getting off-topic. We're still talking about the same immature 12 year-old, and her "Sure, do whatever you want," folks. (I refuse to refer to them as "parents" anymore. That's a title that should be reseved for adults who at least try to raise their children and have the balls to make tough decisions). But you are correct; I don't believe a 12 year-old is mature enough to raise a child. I don't believe any child is mature enough to raise a child. And this particular 12 year-old has clearly shown that she is LESS mature than an average 12 year-old.

As to your last point: Do you really believe than an "opposite exception" can exist? Do you really believe that a child is capable of raising another child, to become a mature adult? (I say, no. That's why I believe there is no opposite exception with this topic. You need an adult to raise a child to become an adult) I might be wrong, but didn't you say that you also believe that a 12 year-old is not going to make a good parent, in an earlier post?.......... And with this specific example, you pointed out the reason why an exception to the rule simply won't happen; no one involved has ANY parenting skills! The 12 year-old clearly has no parenting skills, her folks (considering how she turned out) also have zero parenting skills. 3 individuals with zero parenting skills, taking care of a baby......... This is a case of 3 + 0 = forget the possibility of an exception, a miracle is needed for THIS baby!


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If you people keep arguing, you might just change the world.

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At 5/14/06 02:23 AM, Monocrom wrote:

I think I know where the disagreement stems now. I don't trust the news anymore ever since I realized how even CNN of all news channels localizes itself by selecting different news topics to broadcast in different regions according the interests of that region to gain the highest viewer counts. I still don't think they've reported the whole story on this 12 year old.

I might be wrong, but didn't you say that you also believe that a 12 year-old is not going to make a good parent, in an earlier post?

where?


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I read in The Daily Mail that most of the girl's family had disowned her mother, and that her mum was a heroin addict who never paid any attention to her own children (of which there are 6, by 4 different fathers).
Suffice to say, the 12 year-old shouldn't be having a kid.


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At 5/14/06 02:50 AM, HeinousDude wrote:
At 5/14/06 02:23 AM, Monocrom wrote: I might be wrong, but didn't you say that you also believe that a 12 year-old is not going to make a good parent, in an earlier post?
where?

Found it........ Page 5, yesterday at 3:07am - "No, I don't believe a 12 year old is capable of raising a baby, but it's her life, not mine, that's why I won't say for sure she cannot."

Also, your last post makes it look as though I said the comments about CNN. (No big deal though).


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At 5/14/06 03:50 AM, Monocrom wrote: Found it........ Page 5, yesterday at 3:07am - "No, I don't believe a 12 year old is capable of raising a baby, but it's her life, not mine, that's why I won't say for sure she cannot."

I'd let her do it anyway, I don't know enough about her to be certain that she's not an exception.


Also, your last post makes it look as though I said the comments about CNN. (No big deal though).

That's not what I meant. News pick and choose the juiciest of the info of a news to broadcast the same way they choose the juiciest news to broadcast.


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At 5/14/06 03:55 AM, HeinousDude wrote:
At 5/14/06 03:50 AM, Monocrom wrote: Found it........ Page 5, yesterday at 3:07am - "No, I don't believe a 12 year old is capable of raising a baby, but it's her life, not mine, that's why I won't say for sure she cannot."
I'd let her do it anyway, I don't know enough about her to be certain that she's not an exception.

You're one Hell of an optimist, HD. Based on what we DO know about her and her folks, I can honestly say (with a more than reasonable amount of certainty) that she's definitely not the exception to the rule....... not even close. Maybe when Hell freezes over, and The Devil starts handing out free snowcones......... maybe then.

Also, your last post makes it look as though I said the comments about CNN. (No big deal though).
That's not what I meant. News pick and choose the juiciest of the info of a news to broadcast the same way they choose the juiciest news to broadcast.

I know that's not what you meant. I'm not upset with you........ And the more I think about it, the more I think you're right about the way News organizations do things.


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At 5/14/06 04:07 AM, Monocrom wrote: I know that's not what you meant. I'm not upset with you........ And the more I think about it, the more I think you're right about the way News organizations do things.

Flip channels. The domestic CNN and the international (or non US) CNN channels broadcast different subjects.


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At 5/14/06 02:42 AM, ZekeySpaceyLizard wrote: If you people keep arguing, you might just change the world.

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That sounded pretty pedophilic. :P


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thank god shes not going to have an abortion.


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uhhh...ya...thats just somethin you dont do...15 and 12...


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At 5/12/06 12:20 PM, BuddersTitters wrote: Anyone who is not finacially, emotionally, and physically stable to raise a child SHOULDN'T.

I totally agree. I'm almost 23 and can't do it.... i always wonder how those kids that age can.

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At 5/18/06 12:16 AM, KWAS71KCK wrote:
At 5/12/06 12:20 PM, BuddersTitters wrote: Anyone who is not finacially, emotionally, and physically stable to raise a child SHOULDN'T.
I totally agree. I'm almost 23 and can't do it.... i always wonder how those kids that age can.

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