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At 6/24/08 09:40 PM, genee wrote: May i join? i just found this post , cause my friend is part of it already.
thanks for making a club like this :)

At 6/24/08 11:07 PM, Alpharius120 wrote: I'll join, yo.

If you want to join up here, then I would start by reviewing the list Shanus posted on page 156. It is the current list for this week. Once finished, make sure to tally up your points and post them here. The point system is as follows:

You get 5 points for reviewing a requested movie/game
You get 7 points for reviewing a requested audio submission
You get +3 points for posting here at some point throughout the week
You get +7 points for reviewing all the requests for the week
You get +1 point for each time you put "Review Request Club" in your reviews

Once you're done with the requests for the week, use that system to find out your point totals and post them here. :)

Specifically for the Metal songs on my profile. *Hint, Hint*

Even as a member you can request your own submissions. And to answer a possible question: You will still get 100% for the week if you request your own work to be reviewed.

To take a page out of Haggard's book, it would look like this:

Say you requested 2 audio submissions

Person A, reviews completed: 8/8

You, reviews completed: 6/8

It still = 100%, but you are excused from reviewing your own work. :P

Just for future refrence. :P

At 6/24/08 11:24 PM, Metal-Therapy wrote:

You, reviews completed: 6/8

It still = 100%, but you are excused from reviewing your own work. :P

Just for future refrence. :P

Excuse me, I meant:

Person A, reviews completed: 8/8

You, reviews completed: 6/6

I knew I had to fuck that up somehow...

Stuck on a Name (Audio)

http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1 53609

Please listen and review
Thank you,
jxl180

Maybe you'll like my music. Wanna review my song Ake 2?

Looks like there is a couple more submissions to review then there was last week. That's always a good thing. Keep them coming guys.

Hmmm, if i participate in a collab, and then request it to be reviewed. BUT i am not co authored, do i still have to review it?
Even if i have 2 or 3 pieces in it?

I would like to request to rejoin the RRC again. I know I left a while back, but I haven't gotten to review much in a long time, and I would love to get back into it. Hopefully you guys can afford to let me back in as I'm very sure it's getting fairly busy here lately. Thanks in advance.

w00t my hotel has internet so I'll be here for next week

At 6/25/08 09:24 AM, AnalPenguinFarming wrote: I would like to request to rejoin the RRC again. I know I left a while back, but I haven't gotten to review much in a long time, and I would love to get back into it. Hopefully you guys can afford to let me back in as I'm very sure it's getting fairly busy here lately. Thanks in advance.

Welcome back!
I think you still know how this thing works, right? So, start reviewing! ;)

At 6/24/08 09:40 PM, genee wrote: May i join? i just found this post , cause my friend is part of it already.
thanks for making a club like this :)
At 6/24/08 11:07 PM, Alpharius120 wrote: I'll join, yo.

Welcome! As already said, review the requests posted in the last list, then after reporting back to state how many points you've gotten, you'll be added to the next list.

Remember to actually give some specific constructive criticism - maybe say something you liked, state something you didn't, saying how it can be improved and also maybe give a summary of your overall opinion.

I'm not sure asking for reciprocal reviews after a 1-liner is polite.

Specifically for the Metal songs on my profile. *Hint, Hint*

Give us a few direct links before tonight and they'll be on the next list!

At 6/25/08 09:00 AM, Shadow-1409 wrote: Hmmm, if i participate in a collab, and then request it to be reviewed. BUT i am not co authored, do i still have to review it?
Even if i have 2 or 3 pieces in it?

I would say no.

Just make sure to let Shanus/Haggard know in this thread so they know to change your quota.

At 6/25/08 09:24 AM, AnalPenguinFarming wrote: I would like to request to rejoin the RRC again. I know I left a while back, but I haven't gotten to review much in a long time, and I would love to get back into it. Hopefully you guys can afford to let me back in as I'm very sure it's getting fairly busy here lately. Thanks in advance.

Sure thing! I'm sure you know the jig and also know that more reviewers are ALWAYS welcome.

Review the stuff on Shanus's update, then tell us your points and you'll be included in the next list.

http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1 53664

My chocolate rain cover! It has pterodactyl screams!

here is 1 i want 2 be reviwd: http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1 51282

To requestors - if you made a request since my last list and it is not listed below, I have made a mistake. I am, after all, only human. Let me know if I missed your request or got the link wrong.

To reviewers - this is the list of requests made between the last update and now. Haggard or Shanus will probably tally the points for these reviews on the 6th/7th July. If you haven't already completed them, I suggest you first review some stuff from Shanus's list on page 154.

General Rules for Requesters:
If you are planning on requesting reviews, please:
-Make no more than 3 requests within one week.
-Respond to reviews.
-Be patient. Due to the points system, you may not see reviews until up to two weeks after you request.
-Post a direct link to the submission(s) you want reviewed.
-Do NOT request without posting a link.
-Do NOT just say "Review everything".
-Do NOT request reviews for the same submission more than once.

Movie Requests:(4)
Bahamut's Favourite PMs by Bahamut
Jim and Pals Shorts: Ep 6 by Peter (Jimtopia)
Dragonball Z Episode 2 by Formalz
The Music Video Collab by Asbjorn Ottesen Steinskog (GlowingMonkey)

Game Requests:(1)
Awesome Sprite Tutorial by Swizardv2

Audio Requests:(10)
.:Sweeping Through Life:. by GronmonSE
DKC- Ice Cave Chant Slow Mix by no name (mariomusicmaker1)
-rT- Nexus by ReaperTechno
HIT ME Organ Donor by David Franco (SymbolCymbal)
Enigmatic Automatic by gregaaron89
+Utopia+ by Loveblimp (WritersBlock)
Stuck on a Name by jxl180
Ake 2 by Fredrik Svensson (svere)
Chocolate Rain by The Stig (OctaneVein)
just rock on by jet (piggy123)

Spotlighted Recommendations:
none

You get points for reviewing recommendations.
You may make a recommendation if you reviewed 100% of the previous weeks requests and recommendations. It should have fewer than 30 reviews.

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Early list because I leave Scotland tomorrow. 15 requests despite the earlier list - an active week!

Welcome to new/returning members.

Deleted a few words from the rules for sake of brevity. As usual, tell me if you think it was better before.

I have 2 small suggestions/questions regarding 'official' club business. Firstly, how about some 'form' of the rules for reviewers/requestors to be posted on the top of each page? Normally we only move about 1 page each week, but for more active weeks like last week, it might be nice to have a little thing to copy/paste to the top of each page, so those who click a link to the last page can quickly see what goes on here. I know I mentioned it a while back and there was some reason it never happened, but I can't remember what that reason was.

Secondly - how would you two review-list-maintainers (Shanus/Haggard) feel about raising the max.# of reviews in a permitted reccommendation? I really wanted to reccommend a game, since there's only one-ish on the list, but the ones I'd reccommend have over 30 reviews. Would 40 reviews make the list-making unmanagable?

At 6/21/08 10:09 AM, Haggard wrote:

How's the seperated lists been working out for you guys?

I think it works really well, especially with Shanus or me reposting the list in the update posts. This gives us more time to do the reviews AND everything looks as always. So, I think it's a win-win situation. ^^

I remember you being a supporter of the idea back when, so it was little surprise to hear you say that.

Little_rena and others who originally disliked the idea - have you totally changed your minds, or do you still have quibbles?

At 6/25/08 07:52 PM, Bezman meant to write:

To reviewers - this is the list of requests made between the last update and now. Haggard or Shanus will probably tally the points for these reviews on the 6th/7th July. If you haven't already completed them, I suggest you first review some stuff from Shanus's list on page 156.

Seems to be becoming a tradition. Sorry.

Sorry, the whole point of that 2nd post was to link to page 156, where Shanus's last list actually is.

can i join plz.

Could I get some reviews for my new song please?

Thanks!! :D

hey could i get a few people to review me and some friends jammin?

At 6/25/08 09:50 PM, piggy123 wrote: can i join plz.

If you want to join, then I would suggest checking out the post I made earlier on page 158. Also, if you're going to write reviews for the requests here you're going to need to put a bit more effort into your reviews. And try not leaving reviews like "you suck". Even if what you're reviewing did suck, the point is to offer constructive criticisms to help the author improve, not just generally insulting them. ;)

ok..... so can i join.

At 6/25/08 11:53 PM, piggy123 wrote: ok..... so can i join.

Yes, if you want to join then review the requests on Shanus' list on page 156. It is the current list for this week.
As I said before, check out my post higher up on the page for more info.
Any other questions, feel free to ask.

I have a few criticisms directed towards the memebers criticism regarding audio reviews :)

1. It seems like a lot of you hand out lower scores to loops just because they are short - just remember that the audio portal was originally designed for loops to be used in flash games, even though there's not a lot of them loops on NG very much do have their purpose

2. A common criticism I hear is "it could loop better" - make sure the track has played through a couple times, a lot of times the Flash player has to "warm up" before the music plays seamlessly, it often lags when looping the song the first or second time through. There is also a natural small silence added at the end of mp3 files, so no loop in this file format will loop 100% perfectly. Compositional wise, it takes a musical ear to know what sounds good and what doesn't. Sometimes the average listener can point out something that doesn't loop well - if the piece ends and there's a few seconds of silence transitioning back into the beginning, that's a rather obvious one. some things that you need more of an ear for regard the way "circular" chord progressions are looped and whether they flow from the end right back into the front.

3. Kind of like the first criticism, if a track is too short, it can still serve its purpose. If you still think its too short, give reasons why "the guitar riff was not elaborated enough", "the intro was to short; you need to make your tracks longer and let the individual parts buildup", "the intro was unproportional with the rest of the track, make the body longer" those are some broad examples.

4. "It's too repetitive"...Be aware of the genre...some genres especially the EDM styles have repetition as part of one of the elements in the song...be specific and say what is repetive, and why it needs variation

5. Mainly, just give reasons why you think things are this way...or that...and give suggestions or replacements in how they would be able to make their track better.

Peace!

At 6/26/08 06:31 AM, Suspended-3rd-Chord wrote: I have a few criticisms directed towards the memebers criticism regarding audio reviews :)

It's always handy to hear constructive feedback on our reviewing. Even more useful, though, would be to point out issues as and when they arise - if there's a particular example of a poor criticism we've made in a review, tell us in a response! That ways, we may know better whether we're guilty of these oversights and as we spend the time reviewing stuff, we generally like to know how to do a better job. :-)

2. A common criticism I hear is "it could loop better" - make sure the track has played through a couple times, a lot of times the Flash player has to "warm up" before the music plays seamlessly,

If playing the file on an external media player (winamp/iTunes or whatever) this shouldn't be an issue.

4. "It's too repetitive"...Be aware of the genre...some genres especially the EDM styles have repetition as part of one of the elements in the song...be specific and say what is repetive, and why it needs variation

What is EDM? I'm not familiar with all genre names.

I understand the reasoning for dance music to have a repetitive tempo and rhythm - to make it simpler to dance to - but there seems no reason to preclude melody progression or some changing of a few background layers at least - we can get into the 'trance' (no pun intended) and let our body flow, but it's good to have some change-ups or progression to keep our ears entertained when clubbing.

5. Mainly, just give reasons why you think things are this way...or that...and give suggestions or replacements in how they would be able to make their track better.

That's something I try to keep in mind, but I'll redouble my efforts. ;-)

Good points, clearly made. I'll bear them all in mind.

Can someone review the dot of excellence 1 and 2? thanks!

I'd like to join, I will review the ones on this week. Also can my button finder 2 be added to next weeks?
Cheers.

At 6/26/08 12:27 AM, Metal-Therapy wrote:

At 6/25/08 11:53 PM, piggy123 wrote: ok..... so can i join.

Yes, if you want to join then review the requests on Shanus' list on page 156. It is the current list for this week.
As I said before, check out my post higher up on the page for more info.
Any other questions, feel free to ask.

so.... do i just start reviewing now?

At 6/26/08 03:04 PM, piggy123 wrote:

so.... do i just start reviewing now?

Yup. Start reviewing the requests from Shanus' list. (I posted the link in my other post)

Be sure to tally up your points and post your total here when you're done, too.

5 pts for reviewing movies/games
7 pts for reviewing audio
+7 pts for reviewing ALL requests for the week. (All on the list)
+3 pts for posting here throughout the week.
+1 pt for each review you write "Review Request Club" in.

Any more questions be sure to ask.

5 pts for reviewing movies/games
7 pts for reviewing audio
+7 pts for reviewing ALL requests for the week. (All on the list)
+3 pts for posting here throughout the week.
+1 pt for each review you write "Review Request Club" in.

sorry to ask but what are pts for?

At 6/26/08 03:45 PM, piggy123 wrote:

5 pts for reviewing movies/games
7 pts for reviewing audio
+7 pts for reviewing ALL requests for the week. (All on the list)
+3 pts for posting here throughout the week.
+1 pt for each review you write "Review Request Club" in.

sorry to ask but what are pts for?

To motivate the members of this club to do the reviews. ;)

To motivate the members of this club to do the reviews. ;)

no i mean do u get any thing.