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At 7/11/06 05:05 PM, earthsea wrote:

At 7/11/06 04:14 PM, JadedSoB wrote:

At 7/11/06 03:08 PM, Little_Benwa wrote: They can't do much (they do get jobs doing simple things) but, if you had a kid and they were born mentally retarted you would love them just the same.

Umm, if I could I would abandon him/her. I need to continue my legacy and not have a low-bred ruin it.

A low-bred ruin it! Your legacy! What great things have done with your life so far? And how would a "low-bred" ruin it, exactly? It sounds very arrogant to me.

Theres already enough bad genes in the gene pool we dont need any inferior genes messing with our future and creating lesser people.

There are 2 retarted kids in my ceramics class and they are really talented. (I am not joking here) They can't communicate too well but, they can make beautiful vases and pots.

Oh great, I suppose making pretty little vases compensate for their low-intelligence, overall unproductiveness and being a burden on the state, government and others around.

Well, if they they got jobs as artist, they could sell their "pretty little vases", make a living, and not require goverment funding.

Only a few of the mentally challenged are able to sustain themselves over all they just leach of the goverment so just cause one does decent dosent mean teh other 90% should be left alive athlrough they do more harm than the ones contributing to society.

While I do agree that we spend too much money on the mentally challenged, the extermination of them, especially ALL of them is simply a stereotype of retarded people.

I have stated that not ALL would die just the ones with really low IQ that cant do anything for society.

For example, I know several retarded people. They live together in a relatively large apartment. One of them has been working as a secretary for 7 years. Plus, killing people due to inferiority is simply unjustifiable. It is a burden to supply them with funding (which, as I said before, I think should continue, although be lessened), it is their simply not right to kill inferior people just for financial gain.

Money that goes to the mentally handicap could go to the poor instead of wasted on leachers

By the way have you ever read the book The Giver ? It shows that when people begin killing to benefit the community, they lose the ability of true emotion.

I will look that up

Well i think that we should kill those who would become an extreme burden to society, example: Needs to eat 20 kilo gold per minute in order to survive, anything below that should be spared. However they should be sterilised so they wouldnt be able to inflict the same suffering on their children.

At 7/17/06 01:27 PM, -Thestalos- wrote:

Theres already enough bad genes in the gene pool we dont need any inferior genes messing with our future and creating lesser people.

being retarded hardly ever is in the genes. It's usaully an incident involving incidents in the childs creation within the mother's womb.

Only a few of the mentally challenged are able to sustain themselves over all they just leach of the goverment so just cause one does decent dosent mean teh other 90% should be left alive athlrough they do more harm than the ones contributing to society.

I'm not even responding to this until you post a link proving this.

I have stated that not ALL would die just the ones with really low IQ that cant do anything for society.

What is really low IQ? under 80? and most of them can do menial physical work. How about illegal immigrants? Some of them (all just randomly throw out the statistic of 90%, like you did) can't speak English, and can't really do much more then physical work, like mentally challenged.

For example, I know several retarded people. They live together in a relatively large apartment. One of them has been working as a secretary for 7 years. Plus, killing people due to inferiority is simply unjustifiable. It is a burden to supply them with funding (which, as I said before, I think should continue, although be lessened), it is their simply not right to kill inferior people just for financial gain.

Money that goes to the mentally handicap could go to the poor instead of wasted on leachers

According to you, mentally challenged are poor. Therefore, that sentence doesn't make sense. Also, the poor are leachers, or, at least they are until they get a proper job.

By the way have you ever read the book The Giver ? It shows that when people begin killing to benefit the community, they lose the ability of true emotion.

I will look that up

Sarcasm or serious? I'm not sure.

How about the terminally ill? Comatose patients? Should they be killed to?

For the record, the ceremonial burials, IQ tests to discover the "stupider" type of mentally challenged, and the genocidal tools to terminate them would cost more money then it would save. Unless, of course, you think we should take of all their clothes and through them naked into a large ditch like they did in the Holocaust.

Mentally retarded people are still human beings! My 9 year old Nephew is mentally retarded, but he is still a good kid.

At 7/18/06 02:43 AM, Soulshackler wrote: Mentally retarded people are still human beings! My 9 year old Nephew is mentally retarded, but he is still a good kid.

You wouldn't have a 9 year old mentally retarded nephew if I had power.

At 5/9/06 04:50 PM, -Thestalos- wrote: Yep, i said it they are a burden.
They use millions of dollars and do nothing for society. Sure there are a few who do help but mostly we would be better of with them dead and in their place a full functional human being. It may sound horrible but if a mentaly challenge person were to be born and killed in its first hours a lot of money would be spare. I have met many mentaly challenge people in my life and i have seen many horrible hardships they have had to endure. They should be put down after minutes of being born and by doing this benefits like lowering popullation and more jobs would be opend.
Yes, insult me for my narrow minded idea but give and intellegent response.

STUPID BASTARD! THEY ARE PUT IN SOCIAL CARE HOMES AND HAVE A GOOD LIFE, MY MUM LOOKS AFTER THOSE TYPES OF PEOPLE FOR PETE'S SAKE! YOU'RE AN ASSHOLE!

Here's my solution to the problem. Whenever a person with down-syndrome or mental-retardation is born that they be subject to retroactive abortion and disposed of. The government wastes too much money giving these people too much consideration by relocating them and keeping special care homes operating on tax dollars. Not only that, but most of them continue to draw on welfare and are fucking actually allowed to reproduce.

We have enough bad genes in the human gene pool. We don't need retards alive to further add to it.

your a monster

At 7/18/06 05:27 PM, Yusuke-Urameshi wrote: your a monster

Who? Me? Couldn't be!

At 7/18/06 05:10 PM, ArchFascist wrote:

We have enough bad genes in the human gene pool. We don't need retards alive to further add to it.

Even if you kill all retarded people, other can still become retarded. It's hardly ever in your genes. And even if it was

1) the human race's genes are far too melded together. Even if the mentally challenged are killed, the genes would still reside in other non-retarded people.

2) People can suffer retardation later in life from an injury (e.g. shot to the head). No one can help that.

Whether or not they waste money, they have the right to live. It's as simple as that.

At 7/18/06 06:00 PM, earthsea wrote:

At 7/18/06 05:10 PM, ArchFascist wrote:

We have enough bad genes in the human gene pool. We don't need retards alive to further add to it.

Even if you kill all retarded people, other can still become retarded. It's hardly ever in your genes. And even if it was

1) the human race's genes are far too melded together. Even if the mentally challenged are killed, the genes would still reside in other non-retarded people.

2) People can suffer retardation later in life from an injury (e.g. shot to the head). No one can help that.

The point is that with the execution of retarded people that gene will be alot less prevolent because they're no longer many retards too breed. Of course it will exist as long as humans remain in this stage, but mental retardation is a problem of today. So I propose we dispose of all the obviously retarded to reduce the financial burden they are on society.

Whether or not they waste money, they have the right to live. It's as simple as that.

Bullshit. If they aren't productive and are social parasites they shouldn't live. Some people deserve death.

i think they shoudn't do that cos they are humans.
it's you opinion any way im not going to insult you.

At 7/18/06 06:00 PM, earthsea wrote:

At 7/18/06 05:10 PM, ArchFascist wrote:

The point is that with the execution of retarded people that gene will be alot less prevolent because they're no longer many retards too breed. Of course it will exist as long as humans remain in this stage, but mental retardation is a problem of today. So I propose we dispose of all the obviously retarded to reduce the financial burden they are on society.

Being retarded in not in the genes, right? Being retarded is hardly ever is in the genes. It's usaully an incident in the childs creation within the mother's womb. If I'm wrong, please post a link disproving my statement. And like I said above, (this is word for word, so some of it may not apply to you) the ceremonial burials, IQ tests to discover the "stupider" type of mentally challenged, and the genocidal tools to terminate them would cost more money then it would save. Unless, of course, you think we should take of all their clothes and through them naked into a large ditch like they did in the Holocaust.

Whether or not they waste money, they have the right to live. It's as simple as that.

Bullshit. If they aren't productive and are social parasites they shouldn't live. Some people deserve death.

We'll just agree to disagree. Your and my opinion won't and can't be changed. It just depends on how you were raised and your value on human life.

At 7/18/06 08:45 AM, Saulx_X wrote: STUPID BASTARD! THEY ARE PUT IN SOCIAL CARE HOMES AND HAVE A GOOD LIFE, MY MUM LOOKS AFTER THOSE TYPES OF PEOPLE FOR PETE'S SAKE! YOU'RE AN ASSHOLE!

They built a building for them, therefore they robbed america of it's precious money

imjoking>:(

At 7/17/06 05:55 PM, earthsea wrote:

At 7/17/06 01:27 PM, -Thestalos- wrote:

Theres already enough bad genes in the gene pool we dont need any inferior genes messing with our future and creating lesser people.

being retarded hardly ever is in the genes. It's usaully an incident involving incidents in the childs creation within the mother's womb.

Well due to genes or not the mentally challenged should be rid of just for being a burden.

I'm not even responding to this until you post a link proving this.

yes i did throw a random statistic but the in the end why give a job to some retard that could have been given to a head of the familly in need of this job to support a family.

I have stated that not ALL would die just the ones with really low IQ that cant do anything for society.

What is really low IQ? under 80? and most of them can do menial physical work. How about illegal immigrants? Some of them (all just randomly throw out the statistic of 90%, like you did) can't speak English, and can't really do much more then physical work, like mentally challenged.

Yes immigrants may not speak English or do much but physical labor but they have familys to feed. unlike some retard who may just want to buy a shiny object. Overall i impossed immirgation so we should get rid of them too.

Money that goes to the mentally handicap could go to the poor instead of wasted on leachers

According to you, mentally challenged are poor. Therefore, that sentence doesn't make sense. Also, the poor are leachers, or, at least they are until they get a proper job.

Exactly the poor ones helped could become functional people in society unlike a retard that will spend most of his/her life doing nothing.

By the way have you ever read the book The Giver ? It shows that when people begin killing to benefit the community, they lose the ability of true emotion.

I will look that up

Sarcasm or serious? I'm not sure.

serious, it sounds interesting

How about the terminally ill? Comatose patients? Should they be killed to?

like stated before the terminally ill and comatose patients etc, etc, would be left alive because they have already contributed to society during their life span.

For the record, the ceremonial burials, IQ tests to discover the "stupider" type of mentally challenged, and the genocidal tools to terminate them would cost more money then it would save. Unless, of course, you think we should take of all their clothes and through them naked into a large ditch like they did in the Holocaust.

no i figure as soon as one is born it will be easy to snap their necks or just inject them with something, i mean how much can it take to kill a baby. but hey burning the older ones sounds simple even do is a bit of a cliche.

At 7/23/06 03:57 PM, -Thestalos- wrote:

At 7/17/06 05:55 PM, earthsea wrote:

At 7/17/06 01:27 PM, -Thestalos- wrote:

This is probably the last time I'll post here. We both have an opinion, and we're exchaging them. They can't be changed. But, I'm finding myself repeating constantly. You're opinion makes sense, I just value human life more.

Theres already enough bad genes in the gene pool we dont need any inferior genes messing with our future and creating lesser people.

being retarded hardly ever is in the genes. It's usaully an incident involving incidents in the childs creation within the mother's womb.

Well due to genes or not the mentally challenged should be rid of just for being a burden.

I'm not even responding to this until you post a link proving this.

yes i did throw a random statistic but the in the end why give a job to some retard that could have been given to a head of the familly in need of this job to support a family.

I was recently with a newly-wed retarded couple (don't say I'm lying because I'm young, they came to my Hebrew school). They had a child who was smart, not retarded at all. They originally were in a group home, but with the marriage benifits, they went to an apartment, and they should eventually get a house.

I have stated that not ALL would die just the ones with really low IQ that cant do anything for society.

What is really low IQ? under 80? and most of them can do menial physical work. How about illegal immigrants? Some of them (all just randomly throw out the statistic of 90%, like you did) can't speak English, and can't really do much more then physical work, like mentally challenged.

Yes immigrants may not speak English or do much but physical labor but they have familys to feed. unlike some retard who may just want to buy a shiny object. Overall i impossed immirgation so we should get rid of them too.

Nearly every retard will place a house over a shiny object. Maybe 15% percent of retards are so dim as to do that. (I don't really know, though. It's impossible to get an exact statistic).

Money that goes to the mentally handicap could go to the poor instead of wasted on leachers

According to you, mentally challenged are poor. Therefore, that sentence doesn't make sense. Also, the poor are leachers, or, at least they are until they get a proper job.

Exactly the poor ones helped could become functional people in society unlike a retard that will spend most of his/her life doing nothing.

Many retards can function in society.

By the way have you ever read the book The Giver ? It shows that when people begin killing to benefit the community, they lose the ability of true emotion.

I will look that up

Sarcasm or serious? I'm not sure.

serious, it sounds interesting

You should read it, it's a great book. It's by Lois Lowry.

How about the terminally ill? Comatose patients? Should they be killed to?

like stated before the terminally ill and comatose patients etc, etc, would be left alive because they have already contributed to society during their life span.

Many of them are child or babies.

For the record, the ceremonial burials, IQ tests to discover the "stupider" type of mentally challenged, and the genocidal tools to terminate them would cost more money then it would save. Unless, of course, you think we should take of all their clothes and through them naked into a large ditch like they did in the Holocaust.

no i figure as soon as one is born it will be easy to snap their necks or just inject them with something, i mean how much can it take to kill a baby. but hey burning the older ones sounds simple even do is a bit of a cliche.

Wow, umm... OK. Sounds reminiscent of Adolf Hitler.

Again, your opinion is respectable, and your not being belligerent at all. I just respect people's right to live more than you.

At 7/16/06 06:21 PM, ThorKingOfTheVikings wrote: Studys show that since the seventies the average school grade point average has droped and "cowincedentaly" the # of handicapt people in the population has risen.

Oh my god, that was the funniest thing I have heard all week.

At 5/9/06 04:50 PM, -Thestalos- wrote: nazi-style bullshit.

MentalLy ChallengeD.

You suicidal or something?

At 5/9/06 04:55 PM, darkfiretime1 wrote:
I really dont see the difference between that and other mass murder, like abortion. But, it is kind of disgusting.

I kind of had a thing against killing those who have experienced at least most of there senses with the outside world. In this case I believe in "It's better to not love something if you never see it again." It's also better "To save someone who would lead a worse life in death" Therefore, someone whose already born. Touched the outside world, seen it, smelt it, heard it, tasted it, should not be teased out of life, but for those who do not expect life change because their still in the womb, let them stay at peace forever.

Your point exactly? They have familes just like us. May not live lives just like us, but still they have a foggy concept of life, but they do understand the difference between life and death, and everything in between. Lots of money is going towards helping them, which is quite pointless, so your right about that issue.

You sound exactly like Hitler dude. Some of my homies have mental illnesses, and they're not a burdon at all. In fact, they're cool. YOU R A HUGE DICK, BASTARD, FUCKER! I wish I could kick your ass right now!

Oh yes. Millions spent on disabled people. What a waste. It's a good thing we don't waste BILLIONS of dollars on things like the entertainment industry. After all, why pay a few extra tax dollars per person to give the disabled a chance at life? They're just a total waste of money. Oh well, I'm gonna go see the 100 million dollar budget movie superman returns! WHOOPEE!!!

since we are getting rid of anyone who cant function in society, i assume you want to ban alcohol too? and make this all stepford style? and we might as well get rid of politions too, they waste more money than anyone.

On the subject of getting rid of useless things that take up human resources, let's kill off senior citizens. What do they do, grow old and eat prunes? Pffttt...let's kill handicapped too. And African Americans, like they need a fund! All we did was enslave them! Jeez...we even fed em too. For that matter, let's just kill all babies, kids, and adolescents, what do they contribute? All they do is get on message boards and make stupid topics! We'll just make a grow up serum, so there will be no more kids. I mean after all, disabled people must be living soooo well with the couple of hundred dollars they recieve each month, why, they might even afford a one bedroom apartment! The cockroaches are complimentary! Let's just kill em all!

GLORY TO THE MOTHERLAND!!!

There have been countless movies made about just this topic, science fiction of couse. All ended with the immoral civilization in ruins.

But lets talk about reality, I had a brother with Down Syndrome, he enriched my life and as far as I can tell the lives of everyone who was around him, he was energetic, he made people smile and just put everyone in a good mood around him. The key word in all this is 'was,' he died of cancer when he was two weeks away from his third birthday. The head of the childrens cancer ward, who was supposed to have never gotten emotional over one of the childrens deaths cried for an hour before taking the rest of the day off. I was eight at the time. It changed my life forever, apparently others too, and I wouldn't be the person I am today if he was never around. So maybe the soloution is not that they kill people who are mentally challenged but that they kill intolerant assholes like you a couple hours after birth, just long enough for your mother to get a good look at you.

Just die.

lol are you telling me that a retard took your job lol ooshit what does that say about you lol

At 7/25/06 02:38 AM, Thewolf4000 wrote: You sound exactly like Hitler dude. Some of my homies have mental illnesses, and they're not a burdon at all. In fact, they're cool. YOU R A HUGE DICK, BASTARD, FUCKER! I wish I could kick your ass right now!

like someone stated before hitler was a man who didnt drink a war hero and model citizen and good husband. dont throw the hitler card to evry argument.

fact of the matter is...that mentally challenged people...arent at fault for anything....at least there always happy....have u ever heard of a retarted person beig convicted for pre meditated 6 man slaughter.......NO....mentally chalenged people are a just as good of a contribution to society as any other person....think....they cost money...but they give back too....this is worse than the whole debate on mexicans not giving back to society....mentally challenged people have made great sucsess for their mental state. At some point they get jobs...they really aren't that big of a burden if at all! =)....heres the person whos really destroying our country...

At 7/18/06 02:56 AM, ArchFascist wrote:

At 7/18/06 02:43 AM, Soulshackler wrote: Mentally retarded people are still human beings! My 9 year old Nephew is mentally retarded, but he is still a good kid.

You wouldn't have a 9 year old mentally retarded nephew if I had power.

u son of a bitch,thats the sickest thing ive ever heard in my entire life!...wth is wrong with you???retarted people shouldnt have to die.....think of it as a from your perspective thing....what if your parents of family were mentally challenged...would you like me to come bashing into your home pull out a gaun and kill them????u sick fuck!.

y r u people even replying into this topic...anyone who thinks money is more precious than life is one sick fuck...and there seems to be a lot of them...so dont even have conversation with thes bound to go to hell bastards!