At 5/11/06 12:05 PM, SundayBest wrote:
At 5/9/06 05:37 PM, fli wrote:
And all of them have inconsistancies and contradictions. Compare the geneologies of Jesus of Matthew and Luke.There is no contradiction.
Yes because both lineages go through men.
I'm not even sure Mary's lineage is recorded, although we can make one. Infact, women were disregarded from geneolgies.
All versions of the Bible say so. I'll use the King James for this instance. "And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli..." (Luke 3:23-38)
Nope... It's about Jesus's family tree through Joeseph. And this one starts with Joseph being the son of Heli. But in Matthew:
"And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ." (Matthew 1:16)
It's very obvious that the texts do conflict with each other. Is Joseph the son of Heli? or Jacob?
Greek and Hebrews didn't record lineages of women. This is because this is a male dominated world. There are only 4 women besides Mary that's ever mention, and one pretended to be whore, one is a true whore, one is an adulterous, and the last a nice but damnable non-Hebrew.
Go read the texts yourself--
Does Judas hang himself... or slit his gut open?There is no contradiction.
Rubbish only suitable for the heap pile. The Bible didn't say that Judas hang himself, and the rope snapped, and that such a force eviscerated him. To believe so is false because this is made up. It says that he hanged himself. Or that he bursted open. To believe otherwise is your attempt to smooth these very glaring consistancies in the same fashion how Intelligent Designists morph religion, unscrupulous science, and inconsistant rhetoric to make the world palletable.
Read what is in the text.
There are even two accounts of how the Field of Blood got its name.
Compare the last words of Jesus in Luke to Matthew and Mark.There is no contradiction.
"It is not necessary for each writer to record every occurrence and every word spoken by the Lord..." OMG-- more rubbish.
Everyone can create an explaination. Easily. But the fact is that the Bible doesn't say what they say.
And this is because the Bible is a series of books. Bible is an anthology, and rightly so-- because let's observe the etymology of "anthology". "A collection of flowers". Yes-- Bible is a collection of flowers to create one picture.
Now I won't say it's false, but, going back to the Gospel of Judas, everyone is in its own text just like Judas. To say Judas is false text because it doesn't fit with the 4 canonical gospels would be overlooking the fact that even the 4 gospels aren't congruent with several things: genaologies, stories, quotes, etc.
We should read Judas and find out what's important. The importance isn't in the differences, but what's the same. And what is that?
To love thy neighbor. To "circumcize your heart" (Old Testament, but beautiful, none the less...). To have faith.
And faith requires not needing a scientific or logical question. If you feel the need to know that the 4 gospels have to be uncontradictory, that means that you don't have faith.
Science can never measure faith. Or never prove it wrong.
You just need to hope, that's all...