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At 5/9/06 06:19 PM, Cybex wrote:

At 5/9/06 06:18 PM, Glaiel_Gamer wrote: there's no need for us to try and "punish" him.

But thats not fun :(

neither is what happened to neg. This is a serious issue and having "fun" over it will only make us seem stupid and immature. We don't want to seem immature right now, Ryan is the one being immature about this. But the more we trash and complain and make flashes about it the more it will make us seem like whiney little kids, and people will link that to -1 cause it's about him. Read the reviews, people say that the programmer should stop complaining. He has not publically complained about it in a review or whatever that much. These reviewers are linking our reviews to being "from" neg1. We don't want to hurt his reputation so we can "have fun". It's out of our hands now, we can only wait and see what happens. Ryan will realize the consequences soon enough, and he'll pay then. But for now, we're only making ourselves seem immature.

I would not have know Negative had AS'ed it had this thread not occurred, so yes if you want to be a nice guy coauthor him, but geez, this shit should be agreed upon before - that is why ryan is right. Had ryan been told Neg wanted coauthor before the game was done, he would have the choice of yes or no - but now when he says no - people think hes mean. not his problem.

coauther him.

At 5/9/06 06:46 PM, Snubby wrote: I would not have know Negative had AS'ed it had this thread not occurred, so yes if you want to be a nice guy coauthor him, but geez, this shit should be agreed upon before - that is why ryan is right. Had ryan been told Neg wanted coauthor before the game was done, he would have the choice of yes or no - but now when he says no - people think hes mean. not his problem.

As it's been said in the thread, we had reached such an agreement. He admittedly went back on that agreement without informing me. But yeah, let's not beat a dead horse. I'm just reiterating things now. Anyone who wants the full story should skim the thread and read my larger posts.

lets make a game: kill ryan khatam!
tt
has anyone got a good caricature of him?
(neg one, you'll do the as and this time be mentioned as author (not co-author), lol)
my games and movs suck, so i am not going to do it

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everything above this line is a joke, but you can do it for real if you want

around page 6 there was mention of a tribute - that gonna happen?

we <3 negativeONE

Oh definitely. He did all the boring work, for somebody else's vision. He should most definitely get coauthor.

And no, I'm not an actionscripter.

(Sorry if I'm a little late on this, I saw the topic before but was busy.)

P.S. I'm crediting my voice actor. Then again, his voice really made the flash, well, that and MFP 8. He had the perfect voice.

Dear -Luis-: sorry if this bumping irritates you.

Dear Ryan,

Having only just played your game - Johnny Rocketfingers 2 - I want to compliment your smooth animation and the characters, which can exude personality.

I was driven to write an e-mail though (as opposed to a review) having realised that there seems to be some furore regarding you not giving NegativeOne co-authorship.

It seems that the problem is that you are taking the term 'co-author' in this context too literally. Whilst in the real world, a co-author might be viewed as someone who has equal rights to the vision, co-authoring someone on NG neither diminishes your rights nor will it confuse any members.

In the context of NG, a co-author is simply seen as someone who might have helped in any real way to the game. Anyone whose work helped bring the project to fruition. Doing all the programming certainly qualifies.

If NegativeOne were credited via NG's system, the members of NG would still view you as the artiste. You alone brought Johnny Rocketfingers to life and all the fans will always know that.

'Co-authorship' will simply give Aarron's site some more exposure, whilst diminishing none of your own.

From reading a forum thread I understand that you may have recently suffered torrents of written abuse. Such reactions are indeed childish and I understand to you it may have seemed as if Aarron was responsible for all this. Such e-mails certainly wouldn't encourage me to take action.

I simply beseach you to give thought to Aarron, who put work into the programming, primarily for the exposure. 'Co-authoring' is practically a misnomer on the NG system of crediting. Fans will still give you all the respect and adulation you rightfully deserve.

It will simply grant Aarron the recognition he deserves for the amount of work he did do. Though you may consider it small, the work he did was vital.

Crediting Aarron will lose you nothing but perhaps gain you much respect.

I hope you give this serious thought. If there is some reason why you are not prepared to co-author Aarron, tell the fans in the forums, as there seems to currently be some ill-feeling on both sides.

Unfortunately, the unruly rabble on, drowning out all other noise but there are many intelligent forumites as you must know.

If your only reason for not co-authoring is worry that you won't recieve the full glory you deserve, please know that this is not the case. Fans of the series will always love and respect your work, though this particular action of yours may strike us as obnoxious.

Be funky,
- Bez

its hard to enforce law on the internet....

...perhaps a more restrictive but fairer system could be implimented

but who would put money in to do so

At 5/4/06 10:40 AM, Afro_Ninja wrote: I think you're on to something here. Programmers these days don't deserve credit, they're just lackeys to great artists such as yourself

Especially since programming is what makes a game

geeze it's time to let this topic die now. We've done all we can without looking like fools

Neg, i found your flash on EbUmsworld (okay, ebaum)! you should mail him to take YOUR flash down, or atleast to put YOUR name above it (not ryan)

At 5/13/06 08:34 AM, elmagique wrote: Neg, i found your flash on EbUmsworld (okay, ebaum)! you should mail him to take YOUR flash down, or atleast to put YOUR name above it (not ryan)

What were you doing on eFag's world? Did that whole eBaum = Hitler phase teach you nothing!?

2 reasons
1: because my ip changed i was allowed on the forums again (with jokes i've put an anti-ebaum joke (what's the difference between ebaum and a thief), and i guess my ip is blocked again now
and 2: i read almost all rocketfinger reviews, and ryan (hitler2) has uploaded it to ebaumsworld

(and did you see i spelled it like eBUMsworld in the prevous post?

At 5/13/06 09:25 AM, elmagique wrote: (and did you see i spelled it like eBUMsworld in the prevous post?

I resent that!

Anyhoo, negative is mentioned in the author's comments of JR2.

we know that, but he still isn't coauthor (read the othr pages, i thaught it was already mentioned in like 14, 15 or 16)

;he is been mentioned 3 times THREE TIMES

blah blah blah

whoops, the quote didn't work

does it work with this 1?

Nonsense question. You sould have explain why NegativeOne did put out from credit of author!
I wonder it for long time.

At 10/1/08 11:48 AM, YamadaTaro wrote: Nonsense question. You sould have explain why NegativeOne did put out from credit of author!
I wonder it for long time.

Thanks for bumping a 2 year old joke thread for no reason. Please read the rules before posting again.

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