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Posted at: 5/3/06 08:41 PM

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How do you think the world will look in 2050?

I think the world will be multi-polar, and the US, though still influencal, will step down from the position of dominant super power.

The world super powers powers will be China, Russia, India, US, Brazil, and EU.

Also, oil will be like jam in soilent green: 200 dollars a liter. Alternative fuels will take over after the oil collapse around 2020.


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Posted at: 5/3/06 08:48 PM

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thats an alright right future.

but i don't think russia and EU will be super powers by then.

we will step down but still be in the top ten super powers

2030 is when we use hydrogen as fuel cheaply and ethanol will be a fad until 2010, when something else comes into play. oil will run out and phase out roughly 2035


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China and Russia will never make it.

Russia is still to weak to prove benificial at all and is still coping insurgency.

China will never make it. I'm thinking of some sort of open rebellion, union formations or something.

China's economic increase is mainly due to it's controll of it's currency and how they can keep it low and due to a US trade imbalance.

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The chinese will bcome the superior for a while, but you gotta look at india they are really going to shine, as in 10 years, they will have more peeps than China.

Europe if it ever get's over its inferiority complex shall also be come a power.


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At 5/3/06 08:41 PM, sdhonda wrote:
Also, oil will be like jam in soilent green: 200 dollars a liter. Alternative fuels will take over after the oil collapse around 2020.

only problem is that in "soilent green" the product was made of humans. i don't think that fuel could be made of humans, we just don't produce enough gas.
by the way, this post is mostly sarcasm and joking around.


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At 5/3/06 08:41 PM, sdhonda wrote: The world super powers powers will be Russia

HAHAHAHA

Russia is the only country in the world where the mob actually has a shot of taking the country over. Their economic and political situation is in the shitter right now. They're pretty much a 2nd world country at this point.

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Russia has a lucrative arms business.

HOOP.

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At 5/3/06 08:41 PM, sdhonda wrote: I think the world will be multi-polar, and the US, though still influencal, will step down from the position of dominant super power.

The US will still be the premeninet superpower in 2050, barring no major economic collapses or wars or whatever.

I think 2050 is around the time China would speed past the USA as the number one economy if their current growth is sustained, which I have major doubts about. You can only grow at 10% a year for so long and especially considering the changing energy situation and Chinas smaller sway over the big energy producers compared to the USA doesnt help matters.

The world super powers powers will be China, Russia, India, US, Brazil, and EU.

Russia has no where to go once they are done with their oil exports. It is the only thing that is bouying their GDP at the moment. Brazil has lots of opportunities to grow but they have a LOT of room to make up. The situation for the rest of the countries are anyones guess.

Also, oil will be like jam in soilent green: 200 dollars a liter. Alternative fuels will take over after the oil collapse around 2020.

When peak oil will happen is anyones guess.

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At 5/3/06 08:55 PM, YankeeFli wrote: China and Russia will never make it.

Russia is still to weak to prove benificial at all and is still coping insurgency.

China will never make it. I'm thinking of some sort of open rebellion, union formations or something.

China's economic increase is mainly due to it's controll of it's currency and how they can keep it low and due to a US trade imbalance.

They're still communists, they make sure no one outside of the party get's too rich.


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Posted at: 5/4/06 01:38 PM

Russia will no longer exist.


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At 5/4/06 01:53 AM, JMHX wrote: Russia has a lucrative arms business.

That's not nearly enough to make them a superpower. I can actually see them getting their shit together and getting some form of power back, but that necessitates them taking advantage of the vast potential that is Siberia. While the climate is harsh, there's most likely a veritable treasure trove of natural resources up there that has yet to be tapped.

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only problem is that in "soilent green" the product was made of humans. i don't think that fuel could be made of humans, we just don't produce enough gas.

by the way, this post is mostly sarcasm and joking around.

I was reffering to the fact that in the book/movie soylent green, jam and other foods cost hundreds of dollars for even a small jar, while soylent green costs 2 dollars a kilogram.


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At 5/4/06 01:32 AM, Gunter45 wrote:
At 5/3/06 08:41 PM, sdhonda wrote: The world super powers powers will be Russia
HAHAHAHA

Russia is the only country in the world where the mob actually has a shot of taking the country over. Their economic and political situation is in the shitter right now. They're pretty much a 2nd world country at this point.

what about colombia?


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At 5/4/06 02:16 PM, mayeram wrote: what about colombia?

Columbia is already owned by the Cartel. So, technically, they can't take over what they already control.

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At 5/4/06 01:40 PM, Gunter45 wrote:
At 5/4/06 01:53 AM, JMHX wrote: Russia has a lucrative arms business.
That's not nearly enough to make them a superpower. I can actually see them getting their shit together and getting some form of power back, but that necessitates them taking advantage of the vast potential that is Siberia. While the climate is harsh, there's most likely a veritable treasure trove of natural resources up there that has yet to be tapped.

I doubt Russia will hold superpower status, but its arms business will certainly allow for it to play a role as a power status within the next few decades, if the pendulum of Russian infrastructure can calm down enough to allow for more permanent government constructions.

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At 5/4/06 01:25 AM, Tervos wrote:
At 5/3/06 08:41 PM, sdhonda wrote:
Also, oil will be like jam in soilent green: 200 dollars a liter. Alternative fuels will take over after the oil collapse around 2020.
only problem is that in "soilent green" the product was made of humans. i don't think that fuel could be made of humans, we just don't produce enough gas.
by the way, this post is mostly sarcasm and joking around.

No, in Soylent Green, jam was made of jam, which is why it was so expensive. Soylent Green was the product that was made of people, and that was given away for free.

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At 5/4/06 02:16 PM, mayeram wrote:
what about colombia?

Columbia will be annihilated as well.


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At 5/4/06 02:51 PM, JMHX wrote: I doubt Russia will hold superpower status, but its arms business will certainly allow for it to play a role as a power status within the next few decades, if the pendulum of Russian infrastructure can calm down enough to allow for more permanent government constructions.

Yes, it's obvious they're going to maintain some form of power. They're the source of arms for most militant nations in the world and they also have nukes, a lot of them. However, I'm arguing with the ridiculous notion that Russia will regain prominence as a superpower within 50 years.

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interesting theories everyone. in 2050, assuming i'm still alive then, i'll be 67 years old. i'd be retired and probably relaxing, not giving one damn about the rest of the world.... actually, minus being retired, i see it that way right now.

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No, in Soylent Green, jam was made of jam, which is why it was so expensive. Soylent Green was the product that was made of people, and that was given away for free.

Ya. I wasnt reffering to itssource, I was reffering to its price.

It was an analogy...


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it will be run by apes


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The world in 2050... will be vastly different from the world of today, no doubt. America will not longer be a hyperpower.

The world economy will be in the shitter with the drying up of oil resources and a lack of replacement. America will nearly, if not totally, crumble because of said complications because of how reliant we are on oil to do everything. Nothing gets anywhere without oil. We might make up somewhat by reintroducing rail systems and bio fuels but we're really screwed.

China will probably have another revolution by this time, for better or for worse, and with the problems in the U.S. economy they'll also have serious economic problems. Brazil and India will be major powers, possibly superpowers. If France can get over themselves between now and then, Europe may be unified and will likely also be a major power, if not a super power, assuming it includes key countries such as the UK, Germany, France, Spain, Sweden, Norway, Italy, the Low Countries, Poland, Greece, etc. Japan will probably have some problems and will wane in economic power as their population stagnates. Russia will continue to be Russia - unstable both economically and politically - until they're either destroyed or they re-create the Soviet Union.

Alternatively, we'll all be dead by 2015 because of a nuclear war. I prefer this ending because it's far simpler.


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Ya, death is bliss......


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I think the US will certainly have surrendered its position as the world superpower, or atleast there will be several others to rival it.
China will be right up there, even if they dont continue to grow at the same rate, although it largely depends on how democratic they become.
The EU has the most potential of everyone, it includes several powerful countries - Germany, UK, France, Italy - but the EU also seems to be unable to agree on absolutely anything, and refuses to take the role that it should on the world stage. At the present it is the only thing that could challenge the US. I think the EU will eventually sort its self out though, and by 2050 could well be the biggest superpower in the world.
Russia will have collapsed long before 2050. 'nuff said.
India will continue to be the land of all call centres, but I don't think its increasing population will do it any good at all, and will only stretch its wealth. Probably have huge divisions between the rich and the poor.
As for Brazil, I can see some potential there, but I doubt it'll be a superpower. By 2050 it'll probably be at a fairly comfortable level of living, maybe comparable to Australia today.
Also, I reckon there could be one surprise superpower that we just don't expect today. Alot can change in 44 years, so i wouldn't be amazed if some currently developing country leaps to the front. A few Asian countries have the potential to do this, maybe Malaysia. And who knows what will have happened to the likes of North Korea and Iran by then?
And finally, Africa will still be a mess, with the usual assortment of cival wars and rebel groups etc, and will be just about as poor as it is today, regardless of how much help it is given, because the rich countries will all be too concerned with each other.


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Fourty four years from now I'll still be alive, but you'll all be dead and force to reincarnate into beings that suffer twice as much as you had in your previous live or to such an extensive account that I could never comprehend.

This isn't a belief and doesn't require proof. It's the truth and if you can't accept that. Then I can never take you seriously on any account. Regardless of what power you have to simply shut me up, what ignorance you have in never being able to fully understand what I'm saying, and what influence you may bring to make me feel differently about you as a human being.

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My dog gets up at night and walks around like a human, and kills people and other ****.

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Masakari_Commander makes a good point. Its hard to predict, and there will probably be suprises.

If I were to go to the 1920s and tell them that within the next 50 years there will be a massive worldwide economic deppresion, that germany would recover and start world war even bigger than the one that just happened, that the soviet union would become the dominant super power in eurasia, that the US would also be a super power, and that the british empire and other european emipres will collapse, and that all the racial and eugenics theories are flawed, and that technology and knowledge would further increase, they would say:"WTF, where did you come from" and then laugh......


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All this talk about what country would gain power and all and no mention of Canada? What?

The oil sands in Alberta have already caught the eye of the world and it's value is constantly increasing as the rest of the worlds oil depletes. Obviously theres not nearly enough to sustain the world but I'm sure it will be sold at a very high price between now and 2050 making Canada rich.

Also I read somewhere that in the next 100 years the world will be short of fresh water, and Canada has the most fresh water of all. That's just something else to make Canada a very rich nation.

Lets not forget all the open land that's avaliable and the cost of propety is very cheap in most towns. Over 90% of Canada's population lives within 600km of the U.S border. and as more and more immigrants move to Canada and more northern cities are established Canada is bound to become a stronger, more unified country.

So... yeah, Canada might not be a superpower in 50 years but the future is bright for them.

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Who knows who will be a super power in the future BUT there will probably be some surprises. For example countries in the middle east like Saudi Arabia with their huge oil deposits may surpass major countries like America, UK, Italy etc in wealth and power. Even Africa if ever it was united could quite easily become the major super power of the world.


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At 5/4/06 01:25 AM, Tervos wrote: only problem is that in "soilent green" the product was made of humans. i don't think that fuel could be made of humans, we just don't produce enough gas.

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I don't know about the rest of you, but with me it depends on what i've eatin, somethings (like beans) turn me into a gas producing entity!

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